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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Staff Say Emergency Call Center Undermanned. Reply #15 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 8:23am Well at least lets put enough staff on, in the emergency call centers. Don't you think that would be a good start?. Or are we going to try and save a few dollars, by keeping them understaffed?.
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Reply #16 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 8:35am

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There should be no excuse, for having emergency call centers understaffed. Simply saying we can not afford it, does not wash. Angry

What do you do when you can't afford something Crook? Charge the credit card perhaps? Mortgage the house? What happens when the card is maxed and you owe more than the house is worth and you still can't afford the essentials?

Cut back somewhere? Eventually you'll have to unless you boost your income somehow.

How does the Govt fund more services without blowing the budget?

Charge people that use its services perhaps instead of making it free? Geesus there'd be a riot...... Grin

Cut the rate of pay of existing public servants so that they can employ more? Geesus there'd be a riot...... Grin

Put up income taxes?........Geesus there'd be a riot...... Grin

Sell an asset?........Geesus there'd be a riot...... Grin

Labor just runs up debt because the above scenarios are much too electorally unpalitable although running up debt is akin to a Tax increase. It's the tax payer that will have to pay it back but that will be down the track and the Liberals will have to deal with that won't they? Angry

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Staff Say Emergency Call Center Undermanned. Reply #17 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 8:40am So are you saying, we can't afford to keep our emergency call centers properly staffed?.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Staff Say Emergency Call Center Undermanned. Reply #18 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 8:41am The quicker emergency services can get to patients, the much better position they will be in to give them treatment and help them recover. Of course they should be properly staffed to save lives, but even from a financial point of view they should be running on all cylinders.
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Reply #19 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 8:46am

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Hope if you need an ambulance cods, someone can get through for you in reasonable time. Sad

lets put it this way.. I wont be depending on you or any labor govt thats for sure...tell us all about what the 15 years if Labor did in NSW come on lets hear it????.. oh thats right Eddie Obeid made a motza didnt he???whilst all the CHIEFS turned their blind eye towards him...we saw nussssssing.. Roll Eyes

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what are you doing about the problems in the Ambulance service...??? they have an awful lot of bullying and favoritism in the service..and the ambos are very unhappy got not a thing to do with the govt...its all about culture.....driven by the unions..

so what are you doing about that????

you just can't help yourself can you? Even in a thread about shortages to OOO you can't help by drag Obeid into it ... you're pathetic

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Staff Say Emergency Call Center Undermanned. Reply #20 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 9:24am Quote: So are you saying, we can't afford to keep our emergency call centers properly staffed?. I'm saying it's not as easy as just putting more staff on. Such an action needs to be funded. If there are no funds then obviously affordability is an issue.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Staff Say Emergency Call Center Undermanned. Reply #21 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 9:34am Swagman wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 9:24am: I'm saying it's not as easy as just putting more staff on. Such an action needs to be funded. If there are no funds then obviously affordability is an issue. Dead people don't pay taxes. The emergency services save lives, but they also save a lot of money
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Reply #22 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 9:48am

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Well at least lets put enough staff on, in the emergency call centers. Don't you think that would be a good start?. Or are we going to try and save a few dollars, by keeping them understaffed?. Sad

yeah but all those new staff want paying and they want penalty rates and they want long service leave an d they want and they want and they want.....

yep what are you giving up; to help pay for them... all those in favor of giving something up say AYE!

anyone??? coooeeee... anyone?????????

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Reply #23 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 10:03am

cods wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 8:17am:

I wonder if all those new welfare people that the LABOR GOVT encouraged to come here on riskety boats has anything to do with the congestion... Roll Eyes

.. nah almost sure they wouldnt want anything for nothing and add to our burden.

Haha Yep the idiot left want to have their cake and eat it too, they want to spend billions on bringing hundreds of thousands of unemployed muslims here to keep as pets then squeal when theres no money left for call centres ... Idiots! Grin

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Reply #24 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:52am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

''Most Sydney call takers [are] taking on average 150 to 200 calls in a 12-hour shift -

Whatever happened to an eight hour shift?

These workers are shift workers, which is a necessary requirement when staffing a 24-hour call service. For shift workers, the shift arrangements vary but 12-hour shifts are quite common.

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Reply #25 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:57am

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

''Most Sydney call takers [are] taking on average 150 to 200 calls in a 12-hour shift -

Whatever happened to an eight hour shift?

These workers are shift workers, which is a necessary requirement when staffing a 24-hour call service. For shift workers, the shift arrangements vary but 12-hour shifts are quite common.

I know Bam, like the mining industry.

I was just wondering, why not have three eight hour shifts, like was normal practice in the 80's and 90's.

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Reply #26 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:58am

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 8:46am:

cods wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 8:15am:

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Hope if you need an ambulance cods, someone can get through for you in reasonable time. Sad

lets put it this way.. I wont be depending on you or any labor govt thats for sure...tell us all about what the 15 years if Labor did in NSW come on lets hear it????.. oh thats right Eddie Obeid made a motza didnt he???whilst all the CHIEFS turned their blind eye towards him...we saw nussssssing.. Roll Eyes

..

what are you doing about the problems in the Ambulance service...??? they have an awful lot of bullying and favoritism in the service..and the ambos are very unhappy got not a thing to do with the govt...its all about culture.....driven by the unions..

so what are you doing about that????

you just can't help yourself can you? Even in a thread about shortages to OOO you can't help by drag Obeid into it ... you're pathetic

I agree. I just call this kind of irrelevant crap for the non sequitur fallacy that it is and move on. No need to refute it further.

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Reply #27 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:59am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:57am:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

''Most Sydney call takers [are] taking on average 150 to 200 calls in a 12-hour shift -

Whatever happened to an eight hour shift?

These workers are shift workers, which is a necessary requirement when staffing a 24-hour call service. For shift workers, the shift arrangements vary but 12-hour shifts are quite common.

I know Bam, like the mining industry.

I was just wondering, why not have three eight hour shifts, like was normal practice in the 80's and 90's.

Corporate greed killed that stone dead, sadly.

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Reply #28 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 12:00pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:57am:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

''Most Sydney call takers [are] taking on average 150 to 200 calls in a 12-hour shift -

Whatever happened to an eight hour shift?

These workers are shift workers, which is a necessary requirement when staffing a 24-hour call service. For shift workers, the shift arrangements vary but 12-hour shifts are quite common.

I know Bam, like the mining industry.

I was just wondering, why not have three eight hour shifts, like was normal practice in the 80's and 90's.

12-hour shifts have been tried in many places and found to work well. The work week isn't actually longer, just different.

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Reply #29 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 1:36pm

Kat wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:57am:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 27^th, 2013 at 7:15am:

''Most Sydney call takers [are] taking on average 150 to 200 calls in a 12-hour shift -

Whatever happened to an eight hour shift?

These workers are shift workers, which is a necessary requirement when staffing a 24-hour call service. For shift workers, the shift arrangements vary but 12-hour shifts are quite common.

I know Bam, like the mining industry.

I was just wondering, why not have three eight hour shifts, like was normal practice in the 80's and 90's.

Corporate greed killed that stone dead, sadly.

It's the public service Felix.... Cheesy

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