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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39953 Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #75 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 6:50pm
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #77 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 7:03pm Is anyone surprised that Julie Bishop is a bare faced liar? But things are much better now one term tony has made it easier to adopt overseas kids after their parents have been tortured raped and murdered. Its much safer than getting on boats to escape for their lives. One term tony is all heart
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Reply #78 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 7:18pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:04pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

ubious sources. Amnesty International and the UN eh? Let's ask Stalin what he thought of capitalism

Find me some that conflict it then. I'll wait.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government?

This does NOT make it OK to treat people. ANYONE this way. if Australians are being treated that way then they shouldn't be either

Do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions I have described?

I'll take that as there are no Australians receiving free living essentials from the government.

Essentials are provided by the Red Cross. ....

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #79 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 8:37pm

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:08am:

What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else?

What do you think genius? It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders.

What is it with right wing posters liking to constantly incorrectly infer all the time? Italians hosing down asylum seekers doesn't mean we are okay to keep people in conditions that lead to S
Suicide. You truly want a race to the bottom.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #80 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 10:38pm Hey MM, how about you stop scurrying under rocks and answer a bloody question once in a blue moon. I thought I made it clear, but I'll make it clearer just in case you missed my question. WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT CONDITIONS ON DETENTION FACILITIES ON
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Reply #81 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:26pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 6:50pm:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1482926_228008600705626_4...

Well that was a nice hour she had gullible people thinking detention centers were OK . Yup, not answering questions, didn't meet any children, which means if she did meet any asylum seekers it was the single men's group.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/julie-bishop-under-fire-fo...

Also, to compare it to a miners camp is a joke. Firstly, miners have a choice, and are payed very good salaries, secondly, find me an Australian mining camp where they sleep in freaking tents. What a joke

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #82 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:42pm Europe is closing down, the next Labor party in line with its history of punitive policies will withdraw from its UNHCR obligations. People worldwide are getting sick of forced immigration.
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Reply #83 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 4:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:15am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:08am:

What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else?

What do you think genius? It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders.

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

Nor does it mean we treat them inhumanely.

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Reply #84 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:36am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government?

Prisoners.

Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described?

Prisoners, lol. okay. Roll Eyes

I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda.

You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time.

Only Misty Roll Eyes

A fair dinkum idiot.

Oh I know prisoners receive it all from the tax payer, I just thought it was a stupid example.

I wonder how much of Andrew Bolt you take seriously? Probably none. Why should I take some far-leftist political organisations seriously?

There is a huge difference between an extreme rightwing newspaper columnist with a history of not getting his facts right and being too lazy to check his sources, and a reputable worldwide human rights organisation.

You doubt Amensty International simply because you don't like what they report. If they said all was hunky dory on Manus and Nauru you would be singing their praises.

Right?

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God grant me the patience to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and, above all, the wisdom to tell the difference.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #85 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:39am Interesting to note the President of Italy and the Mayor of Lampedusa have both condemned the treatment of asylum seekers on the island. Yet Onya Tone says nothing about Manus or Nauru.
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Reply #86 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:39am:

nteresting to note the President of Italy and the Mayor of Lampedusa have both condemned the treatment of asylum seekers on the island.

Yet Onya Tone says nothing about Manus or Nauru.

so what TREATMENT do you want condemned????????????..

just HOW do we treat them???

I take it we FORCE them to come here in the first place..

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:36am:

There is a huge difference between an extreme rightwing newspaper columnist with a history of not getting his facts right and being too lazy to check his sources, and a reputable worldwide human rights organisation.

You doubt Amensty International simply because you don't like what they report. If they said all was hunky dory on Manus and Nauru you would be singing their praises.

Amnesty also condemns our treatment of aborigines.. Roll Eyes

so I take it we also force them to live in outback communities as did their ancestors.?

I am just interested in what you think we should be doing.??

as far as I know the conditions are far better than anything on a Turkish border..

as far as I know

LEFTIES HAVE HAD NO COMPLAINTS FOR 6 LOOOOOG YEARS...

Roll Eyes

did Bob Carr visit Nauru???????????????????

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Reply #87 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 7:03am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 4:27am:

Nor does it mean we treat them inhumanely.

Oh do keep up.

cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am:

so what TREATMENT do you want condemned?

Come now Cods, I have made it very clear that the conditions in both detention centers are reprehensible, and most importantly of all, no place for children. I know you have mentioned you have grand kids, would you be happy if they were in this situation?

cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am:

just HOW do we treat them?

Read the amnesty report, look at the comments from the UN representatives which have already been posted.

cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am:

I take it we FORCE them to come here in the first place.

We do not force them to come here no. However we do force them to stay in a hot, rat infested camp indefinitely.

cods wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:48am:

as far as I know the conditions are far better than anything on a Turkish border.

Again, another country having a poor record of treating refugees is no excuse for our own.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #88 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:25am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 4:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:15am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:08am:

What has this got to do with how we treat asylum seekers, that they are treated worse somewhere else?

What do you think genius? It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders.

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

Nor does it mean we treat them inhumanely.

"The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus face indefinite detention in unsafe and inhumane conditions."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/26/unhcr-slams-aust-asylum-seeker-tre...

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Reply #89 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:30am

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:36am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government?

Prisoners.

Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described?

Prisoners, lol. okay. Roll Eyes

I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda.

You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time.

Only Misty Roll Eyes

A fair dinkum idiot.

Oh I know prisoners receive it all from the tax payer, I just thought it was a stupid example.

I wonder how much of Andrew Bolt you take seriously? Probably none. Why should I take some far-leftist political organisations seriously?

There is a huge difference between an extreme rightwing newspaper columnist with a history of not getting his facts right and being too lazy to check his sources, and a reputable worldwide human rights organisation.

You doubt Amensty International simply because you don't like what they report. If they said all was hunky dory on Manus and Nauru you would be singing their praises.

Right?

Just as I thought:

Murdoch media [or insert other 'nasty' media here] = biased, untruthful.
Left-wing organisations = unadulterated truth.

Enjoy your naivety.

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