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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #15 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:35am

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:26am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

It illustrates that Australia treats them far better than other countries do, yet people like you pillory this government for humanely protecting its borders.

Going by that justification, you would get away anything because "well it's not as bad as [insert random warlord/nazi here]

If you think Australia treats asylum seekers well then maybe you should have a look at one of the many reports that the UN and amnesty have done into our detention centers: all of which show them to be a miserable failure that doesn't come close to meeting the obligations Australia has agreed to.

What planet are you from that you think the way we treat asylum seekers is "humane"?

I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others.

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #16 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this.
.........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know!

What do you think señora?

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Now since you've crawled out from under your rock peccahead, what bearing has posting this website's name got to do with the thread? Please don't say because it's about Italy because most of you labrat bastards spew enough crap about other countries on here, therefore this thread IS relevant to ozpolitic.com particularly as there are enough Italian decent members here for it to be very relevant.

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

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Come back next year, see how you go then.

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #17 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:37am

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:13am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this.
.........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know!

What do you think señora?

www.ozpolitic.com

Now since you've crawled out from under your rock peccahead, what bearing has posting this website's name got to do with the thread? Please don't say because it's about Italy because most of you labrat bastards spew enough crap about other countries on here, therefore this thread IS relevant to ozpolitic.com particularly as there are enough Italian decent members here for it to be very relevant.

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

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Come back next year, see how you go then.

Weak.........weasel, very weak....

I'm not the one who said "far better".

"far better" does not equal "humanely".

Sorry.

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #18 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:37am

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this.
.........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know!

What do you think señora?

I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse. Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.

Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool?

What do I care what Rudd says or thinks. Yor obviously one of these automatons who only thinks what one of the major parties tells them to think. I'm not a simpleton like you mate, I think for myself and here's an earth shattering thought for you. This system we live in is not a democracy just because the political parties tell you it is. Chew over that idea for a moment but be careful the rusted cogs in yor tiny brain don't seize up.

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #19 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:38am

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others.

No. You are however part of a country (I'm assuming you are Australian) that indefinitely imprisons innocent people and children on a hot crowded rat infested island for daring to use their universal human right to seek asylum.

You are also part of a country that gives asylum seekers no other options than to either return home to face whatever persecution they fled from, remain in horrible conditions inside immigration detention, or get resettled in a country where half of the women get raped and three quarters get sexually abused.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #20 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:40am

A Papua New Guinean politician says asylum seekers detained on Manus Island have appeared in a pornographic film with local girls.

The island's outspoken MP, Ronny Knight, says the detention centre is ''out of control'' and he will show the clip to Australian officials.

He published the allegation on Facebook, and it has since been shared widely in the community.

However, the company that manages the centre, G4S, says it has seen no evidence to back his claim and urged Mr Knight to speak to police.

Advertisement The MP used the social network to allege that detainees and young Papuans were filmed while engaged in sexual acts.

''I just viewed a shocking phone video of the XXX-rated type featuring asylum seekers in the camp and young Manus girls working there!'' he wrote.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/manus-island-detainees-in-sex-video-png-mp-claims...

Thank f*ck the grownups are in charge

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #21 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:42am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this.
.........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know!

What do you think señora?

I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse. Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.

Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool?

What do I care what Rudd says or thinks. Yor obviously one of these automatons who only thinks what one of the major parties tells them to think. I'm not a simpleton like you mate, I think for myself and here's an earth shattering thought for you. This system we live in is not a democracy just because the political parties tell you it is. Chew over that idea for a moment but be careful the rusted cogs in yor tiny brain don't seize up.

Self-recommendation is no recommendation at all fartacus..... Cheesy

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #22 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:42am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this.
.........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know!

What do you think señora?

I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse. Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.

Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool?

What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.

Yet you’re the one that said “yor” leader.

So whom did you mean?

I'll post it for you...."yor precious dear leader"

???

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #23 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:44am

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:38am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others.

No. You are however part of a country (I'm assuming you are Australian) that indefinitely imprisons innocent people and children on a hot crowded rat infested island for daring to use their universal human right to seek asylum.

You are also part of a country that gives asylum seekers no other options than to either return home to face whatever persecution they fled from, remain in horrible conditions inside immigration detention, or get resettled in a country where half of the women get raped and three quarters get sexually abused.

You mean a country that protects it's borders humanely, something the last government was incapable of doing.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #24 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:50am I think you are confusing imprisoning innocent children in rat infested crowded camps with the word humane here Viewpoint.
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viewpoint Gold Member Offline A joke is a very serious thing. [Winston] Posts: 2209 Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #25 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:57am No confusion here, you are the one who seems to live in cloud cuckoo land, unless of course you have definite proof about the conditions you are harping on about.
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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #26 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:58am

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:38am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

I know what country I'm NOT from, that place where they strip people naked in the open air in the middle of a European WINTER and spray them with an ice cold solution, in front of their family and others.

No. You are however part of a country (I'm assuming you are Australian) that indefinitely imprisons innocent people and children on a hot crowded rat infested island for daring to use their universal human right to seek asylum.

You are also part of a country that gives asylum seekers no other options than to either return home to face whatever persecution they fled from, remain in horrible conditions inside immigration detention, or get resettled in a country where half of the women get raped and three quarters get sexually abused.

You mean a country that protects it's borders humanely, something the last government was incapable of doing.

Humane: "Characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion".

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Reply #27 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:01pm

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:42am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

Funny that conveniently posters have made no reference to the abuse Syrian asylum seekers have suffered on the Italian island of Lampedusa where they were being stripped naked in December and sprayed from head to toe for scabies... Even the EU have threatened Italy with prosecution over this.
.........go figure eh.......it's Tony's doing don't ya know!

What do you think señora?

I think the Italian's are sh!ts like you and yor precious dear leader. You trying to tell us its OK what we do cause the Italians do the same or worse. Wow, yor one hell of a thinker aren't you.

Retarded spelling aside, are you talking about Last Second Kevin? He wants all poor brown asylum seekers sent to PNG. Or are you just being a hypocritical tool?

What do I care what Rudd says or thinks.

Yet you’re the one that said “yor” leader.

So whom did you mean?

I'll post it for you...."yor precious dear leader"

???

You got yourself all tied up in knots fool. Viewpoint's dear leader. Sheeshhhh!!!!!

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viewpoint Gold Member Offline A joke is a very serious thing. [Winston] Posts: 2209 Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #28 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:03pm
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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #29 - Dec 19^th, 2013 at 12:04pm

viewpoint wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 11:57am:

No confusion here, you are the one who seems to live in cloud cuckoo land, unless of course you have definite proof about the conditions you are harping on about.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/unhcr-report-on-nauru/5118588

"It singled out the Nauru centre in particular, saying it is rat-infested, cramped and very hot"

"It's not appropriate for families and children to be transferred to Nauru or Papua New Guinea and the suggestions and proposals for transferring unaccompanied children for us is even more deeply concerning," the UNHCR's Richard Towle said."

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/33587/

“The food is edible. But there are a lot of flies in the food. They even found a human tooth in the food.”

"Asylum seekers are detained on Manus Island in crowded accommodations - one dormitory houses 112 detainees"

In the largest compound, Oscar, 500 men receive only a dozen bottles of water per day to share between themselves.

"This amounts to less than 500ml of water per person per day which is extremely insufficient, especially given the heat and humidity"

You be the judge Viewpoint, is this "humane"?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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