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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #90 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:32am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:30am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 5:36am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

Still, what Australians receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government?

Prisoners.

Now, do you think it is acceptable to keep children in the conditions Stratos has described?

Prisoners, lol. okay. Roll Eyes

I don't believe those sources. They are political and therefore have an agenda.

You only believe what you want to believe: prisoners don't receive free food, clothing, and shelter from the government; Australia treats asylum seekers humanely; and, Santa Claus will be coming down your chimney in a few days time.

Only Misty Roll Eyes

A fair dinkum idiot.

Oh I know prisoners receive it all from the tax payer, I just thought it was a stupid example.

I wonder how much of Andrew Bolt you take seriously? Probably none. Why should I take some far-leftist political organisations seriously?

There is a huge difference between an extreme rightwing newspaper columnist with a history of not getting his facts right and being too lazy to check his sources, and a reputable worldwide human rights organisation.

You doubt Amensty International simply because you don't like what they report. If they said all was hunky dory on Manus and Nauru you would be singing their praises.

Right?

Just as I thought:

That'll be the day.

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #91 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:34am

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 10:38pm:

Hey MM, how about you stop scurrying under rocks and answer a bloody question once in a blue moon.

I thought I made it clear, but I'll make it clearer just in case you missed my question.

WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT CONDITIONS ON DETENTION FACILITIES ON

They are being fed, clothed, and given shelter and medical assistance at the expense of the tax payer, are they not? Unless there's been some major change in recent days and it's all paid by charity?

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Reply #92 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:41am

"UNHCR slams Australia asylum seeker treatment"

"The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus face indefinite detention in unsafe and inhumane conditions.

"In particular, they constitute mandatory detention that is not compatible with international law," he says in a statement."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/11/26/unhcr-slams-aust-asylum-seeker-tre...

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Reply #93 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:42am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:34am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 19^th, 2013 at 10:38pm:

Hey MM, how about you stop scurrying under rocks and answer a bloody question once in a blue moon.

I thought I made it clear, but I'll make it clearer just in case you missed my question.

WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT CONDITIONS ON DETENTION FACILITIES ON

They are being fed, clothed, and given shelter and medical assistance at the expense of the tax payer, are they not? Unless there's been some major change in recent days and it's all paid by charity?

No no no, you don't get away with an opinion. my question which you have got wrong somehow was

WHAT ARE YOU BASING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT CONDITIONS ON DETENTION FACILITIES ON

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Where do you get your information? or are you going to keep disagreeing with all of the following news sources like some kind of flat earth believer, because you are ignoring the reports that I have linked to you from:

the Sydney Morning herald
the Guardian
the ABC
News Ltd. media
the Amnesty report.

All of which say conditions are terrible and unsuitable. Are they all wrong?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10300 Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #94 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:45am Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. The News ltd article was a snippet from a Greens senator. Do you believe everything Andrew Bolt, Piers Ackerman, Miranda Divine, Geert Wilders, and the like write?
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Reply #95 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:47am

Hey MM, another thing. Do you think these conditions sound acceptable?

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On arrival at camps people had their clothing taken away, often to be replaced by a uniform . Men would wear a vest, trousers, hat and coat. Women would be supplied a smock type dress.Clothes would be changed approximately every six weeks.

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people in the camp received meals three times a day: morning, noon, and evening.

because to me that sounds like free food and clothing

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #96 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:55am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. The News ltd article was a snippet from a Greens senator. Do you believe everything Andrew Bolt, Piers Ackerman, Miranda Divine, Geert Wilders, and the like write?

Right, so if you don't believe them (because grr, left wing bias) hang on, wait a tic....

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:30am:

Murdoch media [or insert other 'nasty' media here] = biased, untruthful.
Left-wing organisations = unadulterated truth.

you are such a hypocrite lol, it's like you aren't even trying anymore. Anyway, if you don't believe the sources (oh, including the PHOTOS link I put up) about how bad conditions are then how about you share what you are basing your opinion on? Because you have given absolutely nothing to support your opinion so far.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #97 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:01am Nasty Kevin Rudd sending all the poor brown people to PNG, what a racist arsehole.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156299 Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #98 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:05am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:45am: Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. Incorrect. You deny the reports because you're an ignorant bigot. Be a man for once in your life and just admit the truth. Pathetic.
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Reply #99 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am

Stratos wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda. The News ltd article was a snippet from a Greens senator. Do you believe everything Andrew Bolt, Piers Ackerman, Miranda Divine, Geert Wilders, and the like write?

Right, so if you don't believe them (because grr, left wing bias) hang on, wait a tic....

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:30am:

Murdoch media [or insert other 'nasty' media here] = biased, untruthful.
Left-wing organisations = unadulterated truth.

you are such a hypocrite lol, it's like you aren't even trying anymore. Anyway, if you don't believe the sources (oh, including the PHOTOS link I put up) about how bad conditions are then how about you share what you are basing your opinion on? Because you have given absolutely nothing to support your opinion so far.

I looked at the photos and couldn't see anything wrong. A bit of dirt Roll Eyes

- the kids looked like they were having fun. I used to play in the dirt a lot when I was a kid.

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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #100 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:05am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

Yes I do deny the reports because it's left-wing propaganda.

Incorrect.

You deny the reports because you're an ignorant bigot.

Be a man for once in your life and just admit the truth.

Pathetic.

Peccy brings out the big guns - BIGOT!!!
What an intellectual tour de force you are!

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10300 Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #101 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:10am You bigots are intolerant of my position. You must all be Nazis!
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Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers
Reply #102 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:17am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

I looked at the photos and couldn't see anything wrong. A bit of dirt - the kids looked like they were having fun. I used to play in the dirt a lot when I was a kid.

Pictured: kids having fun

Look! they even have water slides!

Still no info as to where you are basing your opinion on MM. You should share. heaven forbid you make a conclusion based on bias instead of information. That would be a silly thing to do now wouldn't it?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8745 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #103 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:21am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:10am: You bigots are intolerant of my position. You must all be Nazis! Can you undress and step in this shower please? Do you have any gold teeth?
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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Italy abuses asylum seekers Reply #104 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 9:22am Our soldiers suffer worse living conditions while fighting the fake reffos battles for them.
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