lee wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 10:31am:

Right. Ummm ... What would you expect that a scientist would have to say about the likes of Anthony Watts?

Remember your question: lee wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 10:21am:
Why would you need a scientist to answer that question?

muso wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 12:41pm:
They're relevant as sources of information to answer lee's question: lee wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 10:21am:

His obsessive whining is a mystery to me. Nobody else has come up with any other sources of information.

Sometimes, I wonder why I bother. 

lee wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 6:27pm:

Wow, dismissive daddykins much!????! 

'How effective is AR5 and the summary for polfcymakers in conveying what is meant by uncertainty in scientific terms? Would a focus on risk rather than uncertainty be useful? The way the SPM deals with uncertainties (e.g. claiming something is 95% certain) is shocking and deeply unscientific. For a scientist, this simple fact is sufficient to throw discredit on the whole summary. The SPM gives the wrong idea that one can quantify precisely our confidence in the model predictions, which is far from being the case.

Does the AR5 address the reliability of climate models? Even if it does it in several places in the report, it lacks too often the critical attitude that should be expected, sometimes eluding rather than facing embarrassing questions. The SPM does not address in a proper way the issue of the reliability of the climate models.'

extract : http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/WrittenEvidence.svc/EvidenceHtml/4360

by Professor Pierre Darriulat

From a link on Watts.

The whole paper is well worth the read.

Of course everyone who disagrees with the Church of AGW is a denialist.

muso accepts the physics, Prof Darriulat is a renowned physicist who does not accept the Climate Change Cargo Cult.

Have you seen this  news - not related to the current chat?

'A scientific mission ship, trapped in dense pack ice off East Antarctica, is still awaiting rescue after a Chinese icebreaker failed to reach it.

The Snow Dragon icebreaker was itself stalled by heavy ice, officials say.

It had been trying to cut a path through the ice in order to help the research vessel reach open water.

The Russian Academic Shokalskiy, which has been trapped since Christmas Day, has 74 on board and is being used by the Australasian Antarctic Expedition.

They are following the route explorer Douglas Mawson travelled a century ago.
'Too thick'

One of the leaders of the expedition, Chris Turney, earlier tweeted an image of the Snow Dragon icebreaker - also known as the Xue Long - on the horizon as it approached the research ship. '

read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25523952

It would seem an earlier story on the Antarctic having an increase in ice by both extent and volume may be correct.

I know the difference between weather and climate. But when first posted, queries were made as the the volume of ice. It was believed by some to be a mere thin surface.