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Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Dec 13th, 2013 at 8:58pm
 
Australia has a large percentage of people with no religion, was it around 23-25% in the last census.
Bob Hawke was an atheist PM elected over 30 years ago.

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Atheists face death in 13 countries,global discrimination:study


In 13 countries around the world,all of them muslim,people who openly expouse atheism or reject the official state religion of Islam face execution under the law,according to a detailed study issued on tuesday.

A first survey of 60 countries last year showed just 7 where death,often by public beheading ,is the punishment for either blasphemy or apostasy

But this years more comprehensive study showed six more, bringing the full list to Afghanistan,Iran,Malaysia,Maldives,Mauritania,Nigeria (muslim part),Pakistan,Qatar,Saudia Arabia,Somalia,Sudan,UAE and Yemen.

www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/10/us-religion-atheists-idUSBRE9B900G20131210


Chopping the head off someone for the crime of atheism is barbaric, there is no excuse for this.
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Re: Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:18pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 8:58pm:
I reckon these guys are atheists who are taking the piss out of Islam,Gandalf do you think they are muslim or atheist?



what possible relevance would that video have to the thread topic Baron?

Grow up please.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:23pm
 
meh what the hell - video deleted.

In the interests of transparency - video was of a muslim apparently espousing the virtues of camel urine - yes thats right, nothing at all to do with the topic - just an excuse for Baron to make that "clever" quip I quoted above.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:25pm
 
Do you think he is atheist or muslim Gandalf?

Atheists tend to mock and ridicule, is that what he could be considered to be doing in that video?

Chopping someones head off for the crime of disbelieving in fairy tales is a bit harsh, any chance of these countries one day respecting the Universal Declaration of human rights in particular article 18.

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Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:27pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:23pm:
meh what the hell - video deleted.
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Islamofascism wins again, do you support the OIC with their push for a global blasphemy law?
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Re: Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:31pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:27pm:
Islamofascism wins again


Did you want to talk about the persecution of atheists or whether or not camel urine is beneficial?

If its the former, there is no reason to post that particular video in this thread. If its the latter, feel free to start a thread relevant to that topic.

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:27pm:
do you support the OIC with their push for a global blasphemy law?


Of course not.
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:11pm
 
Did it describe the drinking of camel urine as the greatest contribution by Muslims to science?

It looks to me like Baron went to some effort to work it into the topic.
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Reply #7 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:11pm:
Did it describe the drinking of camel urine as the greatest contribution by Muslims to science?


He says while sipping coffee and listening to rock music.
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #8 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:19pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 8:58pm:
Chopping the head off someone for the crime of atheism is barbaric, there is no excuse for this.


Correct

I'm quite surprised to see Malaysia on that list.  Do you know if anyone has actually been sentenced under these laws or if it just there on paper?  I am aware they do capital punishment, but did not think they punished atheism with death.
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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #9 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:38pm
 
Stratos wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:16pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:11pm:
Did it describe the drinking of camel urine as the greatest contribution by Muslims to science?


He says while sipping coffee and listening to rock music.


What are you trying to say? That drinking camel urine is no different to drinking coffee or listening to music?
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Reply #10 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:38pm:
Stratos wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:16pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:11pm:
Did it describe the drinking of camel urine as the greatest contribution by Muslims to science?


He says while sipping coffee and listening to rock music.


What are you trying to say? That drinking camel urine is no different to drinking coffee or listening to music?


No, that the modern way of roasting and grinding coffee, as well as the predecessor to the guitar both came from the Moorish people, a Muslims people who lived during the middle ages.  Sorry I'm a bit drunk, and that's pretty cryptic reading it back lol
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Reply #11 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:54pm
 
What is it with Islam and rewriting history?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar#History

Before the development of the electric guitar and the use of synthetic materials, a guitar was defined as being an instrument having "a long, fretted neck, flat wooden soundboard, ribs, and a flat back, most often with incurved sides".[1] The term is used to refer to a number of chordophones that were developed and used across Europe, beginning in the 12th century and, later, in the Americas.[2] Modern chordophones are the descendants of long lines of instruments that go back several thousand years to those of ancient Central Asia and India. For this reason, modern western chordophones, like the guitar, the violin, the lute and others, are distantly related to the modern instruments of central Asia and India, including the tanbur, the setar and the sitar. A 3,300-year-old stone carving of a Hittite bard playing a stringed instrument is the oldest iconographic representation of a chordophone.[3]

The modern word guitar, and its antecedents, have been applied to a wide variety of chordophones since classical times and as such is the cause of confusion. The English word guitar, the German Gitarre, and the French guitare were adopted from the Spanish guitarra, which comes from the Andalusian Arabic قيثارة qitara,[4] itself derived from the Latin cithara, which in turn came from the Ancient Greek κιθάρα kithara.[5]

The term guitar is descended from the Latin word cithara but the modern guitar itself is generally not believed to have descended from the Roman instrument. Many influences are cited as antecedents to the modern guitar. Although the development of the earliest "guitars" is lost in the history of medieval Spain, two instruments are commonly cited as their most influential predecessors, the European lute and its cousin, the four-string oud; the latter was brought to Iberia by the Moors in the 8th century.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_coffee

The history of coffee goes at least as far back as the thirteenth century with a number of myths surrounding its first use. The original native population of coffee is thought to have come from East Africa and it was first cultivated by Arabs from the 14th century.[1] The earliest credible evidence of either coffee drinking or knowledge of the coffee tree appears in the middle of the 15th century, in the Sufi monasteries of Yemen.[2] By the 16th century, it had reached the rest of the Middle East, Persia, Turkey and northern Africa. Coffee then spread to Balkans, Italy and to the rest of Europe, to Indonesia and then to the Americas.[3]
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Reply #12 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:57pm
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

Guitar: the modern guitar is thought to have developed from the earlier Arabic instrument "Oud." Introduced through medieval Spain, the guitar was initially referred to as guitarra moresca (moorish guitar) in the 12th century.[21][22]

were talking way back here
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Reply #13 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 1:06pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:31pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:27pm:
Islamofascism wins again


Did you want to talk about the persecution of atheists or whether or not camel urine is beneficial?

If its the former, there is no reason to post that particular video in this thread. If its the latter, feel free to start a thread relevant to that topic.

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 9:27pm:
do you support the OIC with their push for a global blasphemy law?


Of course not.


The video is relevant because it shows how atheists in the Islamic part of the world have to be subtle in mocking Islam to avoid arousing the bearded nutjobs who will call for them to be beheaded, in non Islamic parts of the world people are free to mock and ridicule idiotic beliefs.


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Apostasy is not human rights


The passion that drives the west in their fight for human rights caused a few to forget there are rights there that are being violated.The muslims rights are among them.
Muslims reject several articles in the UDHR 1948 because their rights to practice their religion are being threatened
Article 16 states
Men and women of full age ,without limitation to race,nationality and religion,have the right to marry and found a family,they are entitled to equal rights as to marriage,during marriage and its dissolution.
For muslims that statement contradicts Islamic law that has clear guidelines and rules for marriage (Child brides are allowed)

Article 18 states-
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought,conscience and religion, this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief,and freedom either alone or in the community with others and in public or private,to manifest his religion or belief in teaching,practice worship and observance.
According to Islam,article 18 cannot be accepted as it clearly violates the rights of muslims to practice Islam.

The Islamic law has defined that apostasy is a crime therefore it cannot be listed under individual human rights.

A matter that needs to be understood by all is that there is no human rights violation issue if the Islamic penalty is enforced (they chop your head off)  onto muslims who apostatised


From Malaysian government link-
www.islam.gov.my/sites/default/files/apostasy_is_not_human_rights.pdf



The Malaysian government has stated leaving Islam (apostasy) is not a human right, are they delusional or redefining human rights?

Islam is the only religion that is not compatible with the Universal declaration of human rights.

The PEW survey had the majority of muslims agreeing that chopping the head off those who leave Islam is acceptable.



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Reply #14 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 1:13pm
 
Stratos wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 10:57pm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

Guitar: the modern guitar is thought to have developed from the earlier Arabic instrument "Oud." Introduced through medieval Spain, the guitar was initially referred to as guitarra moresca (moorish guitar) in the 12th century.[21][22]

were talking way back here


It was a monk in a monastery who discovered coffee, Islam does not have monks or monasteries.

www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Inventions%3F_How_Islamic_Inventors_Did_Not_Chang...

Ibn Sina was declared an atheist and apostate by none other than Al Ghazali yet that does not stop muslims from claiming he was muslim.
Muhammad al Razi who invented kerosene was also an atheist even Gandalf accepts he was atheist.

The bomb you stick up your ass is 100 % Islamic invention, i dont believe any non muslim has ever stuck a bomb up their ass with suicidal/homicidal intentions.
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