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Re: Harassement of Muslims in Australia
Reply #60 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:34pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 3:00pm:

Stratos wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 2:50pm:

Its still creepy. If you know the garage contents and movements of a family you don't personally know, that is really stalkerish,

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 2:37pm:

The highest Unemployed of any ethnic group

Muslim is an ethnic group now? wait hang on....

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 1:43pm:

Every morning the black burqa-clad matriarch

How do even know what country she is from if you've never seen her face? She could be a third generation Australian convert for all you know!

Gothcha!

Your kneejerk defence displays the most obvious lack of knowledge with regard to your defendants.

One suggests that you go away, gain a little more knowledge about Muslims, Islam, taqiyya, wilfully unemployed,scavenging, rorting the system, etc.

You've never held a garage sale, have you? Cool

Lionel, you do know that Taqiyya is one of the big furphies of the internet?

No Muslim I know has ever even heard of the concept, let alone practised it. It is something the Islamist Caliphists have recreated to justify their behaviour which would normally be abhorrent in Muslim society. Roll Eyes

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Reply #61 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:26pm:

My sympathies always lie with the persecuted and the downtrodden, Lionel.

Nonsense.

You are silent like the grave about all who are persecuted and downtrodden by Islam.

You are a lefty bigot. You would never ever dream of standing up to Islamic thugs because you are a bedwetting coward. You preen and strut when it's safe. You are an unprincipled whoopee cushion.

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Reply #62 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 7:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 7:36pm:

you're one of the chief persecutors in this forum

You are an idiot by your own admission, Brian. You have no leg to stand on.

Soren, your personal opinion of me reveals how much you hate someone who refuses to knuckle under to your views. Tough.

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You are the persecutors of freeborn men with independent views. You are a Stalinist, intolerant bigot.

I am neither a Stalinist, nor intolerant, nor a bigot. You however are, as demonstrated in every post you make attacking Muslims for their religious beliefs. Roll Eyes

Your posts demonstrate the truth of the article I quoted from. Muslims are persecuted by ignorant people like you through your prejudices. You'd happily burn them at the stake if you had your chance. Roll Eyes

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Reply #63 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:42pm

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:26pm:

My sympathies always lie with the persecuted and the downtrodden, Lionel.

Nonsense.

You are silent like the grave about all who are persecuted and downtrodden by Islam.

As Yadda recently suggested, "absence of evidence does not prove absence," Soren. When such matters have been brought to my attention I have condemned them and moved on and that is the key difference between you and me, I move on to talk about other matters. You just keep persecuting.

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You are a lefty bigot. You would never ever dream of standing up to Islamic thugs because you are a bedwetting coward. You preen and strut when it's safe.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Harassement of Muslims in Australia Reply #64 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:43pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm: I am neither a Stalinist, nor intolerant, nor a bigot. Yes you are.
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Reply #65 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm:

Muslims are persecuted by ignorant people like you through your prejudices.

Disdain is not persecution.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm:

You'd happily burn them at the stake if you had your chance. Roll Eyes

You are hyper-ventillating again because you cannot think your way past simple disagreement. You need to go over the top because you can't simply be reasonable.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Harassement of Muslims in Australia Reply #66 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:53pm Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:47pm: You need to go over the top because you can't simply be reasonable. Lol, is this guy serious?
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Reply #67 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:42pm:

As Yadda recently suggested, "absence of evidence does not prove absence," Soren. When such matters have been brought to my attention I have condemned them and moved on and that is the key difference between you and me, I move on to talk about other matters. You just keep persecuting.

Are you menopausal? Who the foock are you to tell me how much I should dislike something?

There are plenty of anti-capitalist pr!cks here who never tire of disliking capitalism, Australia, the West, etc. You never upbraid them for their views.

Foock orf. If I dislike something, it's not for you to tell me how much I can dislike it.

Pull your head in. Who the bloody hell do you think you are? Mary Whitehouse?

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Reply #68 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:59pm

You can't even go with consistency in two posts. Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

You are hyper-ventillating again because you cannot think your way past simple disagreement. You need to go over the top because you can't simply be reasonable.

and then

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:55pm:

Are you menopausal? Who the foock are you to tell me how much I should dislike something?

There are plenty of anti-capitalist pr!cks here who never tire of disliking capitalism, Australia, the West, etc. You never upbraid them for their views.

i know you get angry being blatantly wrong, but you gotta keep it together man

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #69 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:10pm

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm:

I am neither a Stalinist, nor intolerant, nor a bigot.

Yes you are.

Prove it, Soren. Quote a single statement of mine that supports any of those propositions explicitly.

Here ya go, I'll even give you the space to do it.
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Is name calling the best you can do? Roll Eyes

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Reply #70 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:13pm

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm:

Muslims are persecuted by ignorant people like you through your prejudices.

Disdain is not persecution.

Disdain would not require several thousand posts, Soren. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm:

You'd happily burn them at the stake if you had your chance. Roll Eyes

You are hyper-ventillating again because you cannot think your way past simple disagreement. You need to go over the top because you can't simply be reasonable.

You are way beyond simple disagreement, Soren right out into outright persecution. Roll Eyes

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Reply #71 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:16pm

Soren wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:42pm:

As Yadda recently suggested, "absence of evidence does not prove absence," Soren. When such matters have been brought to my attention I have condemned them and moved on and that is the key difference between you and me, I move on to talk about other matters. You just keep persecuting.

Are you menopausal?

Sexism as well? Roll Eyes

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Who the foock are you to tell me how much I should dislike something?

I'm not. I'm telling you whether or not the amount you express that dislike amounts to persecution. Roll Eyes

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There are plenty of anti-capitalist pr!cks here who never tire of disliking capitalism, Australia, the West, etc. You never upbraid them for their views.

Perhaps because it's a bit hard, by definition, to persecute capitalists, Soren. Roll Eyes

Next time you find some downtrodden, persecuted capitalists, point them out to me... Grin

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Re: Harassement of Muslims in Australia
Reply #72 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

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Racism, prejudice and discrimination

Andrew Markus (2001) has charted the continuing role of racism in Australia. While Islam is a
religion, and Muslims form a religious community, the concept of racism is often used to
encompass the structuring of prejudice towards Muslims. However, for some in the Muslim
communities it is doubtful that racial vilification laws and protections are likely to provide
adequate protection from discrimination and vilification on the basis of religious belief, affiliation
or practice. Some young people experience ‘prejudice’ as ‘racism’, and sometimes it may be
difficult to differentiate what is racism, and what is religious prejudice. Racism as such has been
used as a surrogate category for prejudice based on ‘religious’ identification and practice, even
though it does not account for all the different forms of discrimination and vilification
experienced.

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A subtle attempt to blur the lines so that anti-Islam views are now seen as racism. There is not one Western country that can report on the seamless arrival of muslim migrants. The current conflict in Syria points to the fact that muslims can't even get along with each other so what hope is there that they'll find a home in Western countries. I don't like muslims and there is no law in Australia compelling Australian citizens to like muslims. It is not illegal to shun muslims. I don't see why that bothers them because friendships for muslims and not negotiated they are mandated. The koran says something like 'take not Jews and Christians as friends because they are friends one to the other'. If that's how they feel why the feigned indignation to find out their bigotry redounds on them.

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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

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Reply #73 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:24pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Young Muslim Australians can detail the sense of exclusion, the harassment and the vilification they have experienced.

We know from the survey that discrimination and prejudice was experienced by a large number of young Muslim Australians within the school setting, and by Muslim youths of all ages in public areas such as streets, shopping centres and similar places.

Priceless!

I'm nominating this for this year's Most Absurd Statement Award for 2013.

It's a corker.

Say one thing wrong to a Muslim youth in Sydney and out comes the mobile phone, and before you've gone a hundred paces a dozen cars containing hostile Muslim youths have converged upon you from all points of the compass.

That's very true Herb.
If you walk through Lakemba and parts of Bankstown you have to keep your eyes averted lest you upset someone and suffer from the same result.
Gee I wonder why there's a Middle Eastern Crime Squad... all the police must just be "racist" "xenophobic" "anti-Muslim" etc, etc, etc....

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Reply #74 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 7:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 10:05am:

You are a joke bwian... I live in NSW I have no doubt a much better idea about Muslims in Australia than you do.

Really? Or just some groups of Muslims?

I live in the same street as a Muslim family. I work every day with Muslims. I have studied with Muslims, I have been in the Army with Muslims and my views are based upon my intimate relationships with Muslims. Yours appear to be based upon sensationalist media reports about Muslims. How many Muslims do you know, personally, Beowulf? I've asked that question many times and you've always refused to answer it. I wonder why? I wonder why? Roll Eyes

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If you want to cwy bwian, then cry for ordinary Australians that have to put up with the intimidation and danger from the Muslim Community towards them.

I love it when you resort to baby talk, Beowulf. It just shows your level of maturity. I wonder how much intimidation Muslims have to put up with from people like you, Beowulf or are you one of those cowards who are only brave behind a keyboard? Roll Eyes

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Threats and actual; shootings, gang rapes, bombings, killing, organised crime gangs, outlaw bikie gangs, thuggery, riots, drugs, drive bys, aggression and intimidation in numbers... the list goes on and on and on and on bwian... you are a clueless apologetic.

I've never denied there are some bad Muslims. It is the continually broad brushed painting that you and others here do, branding all Muslims with the same attitudes. It is yours and others here bigotry that is the real problem. No good Muslims in your view? Well, that explains everything, now doesn't it? Roll Eyes

Really bwian... I've worked with Muslims for years. I've lived with them as neighbours for years.
Don't smacking lie bwian. I always answer your dopey questions. You just ignore answers that don't suit your bigotry.
I'm much more mature than you bwian and much more honest and less ignorant
Troll away... lie away... we are all used to your mature methods bwian... you never change. Grin

oh and bwian... unlike you I don't resort to socks. Roll Eyes

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