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Reply #15 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:51am
 
Soren wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 8:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:44pm:
So, do Muslims deserve to be treated with the same respect that other non-Muslim Australians appear to receive automatically? 


Do fascists, communists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists deserve respect FOR THE GROUP THEY CHOOSE TO BELONG TO?

No.


Your particular stupidity stems from treating ideology as if it was a biologically inherited trait, not a personal choice of values to live by.


I call Godwin's Law, Soren.

I didn't mention any of the groups you've named.  I merely asked if Muslims should deserve the same respect that the members of other mainstream groups in Australian society appear to automatically receive from their fellow Australians.  You've attempted to like Muslims to "Nazis" or "Communists".

Need I remind you what the fate of the Communist Party Dissolution Act of 1950 was?  It was defeated in the High Court and by a referendum of the Australian people who refused to fall into lockstep with people such as you.   The Australian people rejected political persecution then.  Today, if asked, they would reject religious persecution like yours.   Roll Eyes
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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using memes. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #16 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 7:20am
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 8:46pm:
Although the consequences were very harsh, all of those instances from the OT, relate to persons who would or were breaking a solemn covenant that they had made with another party.

Are you saying persons who make a [lawful] agreement, with another party, should not in fact have to honour their agreement ?


Your hypocrisy knows no bounds Yadda, especially when you keep posting things like this

Yadda wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 10:00pm:
brian = = a spineless, uncritical, apologist for the followers of Mohammed.
DEATH CULT[/size]
Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260


So is Christianity a "death cult" too? or just the religions you are completely bigoted towards?
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Reply #17 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 9:25am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:51am:
Soren wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 8:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:44pm:
So, do Muslims deserve to be treated with the same respect that other non-Muslim Australians appear to receive automatically? 


Do fascists, communists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists deserve respect FOR THE GROUP THEY CHOOSE TO BELONG TO?

No.


Your particular stupidity stems from treating ideology as if it was a biologically inherited trait, not a personal choice of values to live by.


I call Godwin's Law, Soren.

I didn't mention any of the groups you've named.  I merely asked if Muslims should deserve the same respect that the members of other mainstream groups in Australian society appear to automatically receive from their fellow Australians.  You've attempted to like Muslims to "Nazis" or "Communists".

Need I remind you what the fate of the Communist Party Dissolution Act of 1950 was?  It was defeated in the High Court and by a referendum of the Australian people who refused to fall into lockstep with people such as you.   The Australian people rejected political persecution then.  Today, if asked, they would reject religious persecution like yours.   Roll Eyes



Disagreement, dislike is not persecution.

I compared Islam to nazism, communism AND Christianity and Buddhism, but you dishonestly left off the last two simply to distort what I said and enable yourself to be opnce again the po-faced preening little poseur.

In this you are the kind of totalitarian, oppressive lefty bigot we should all be very afraid of.

I said that Islam is an ideology, freely chosen, freely followed.  Do people deserve respect for whatever ideology they believe in?
No.


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Reply #18 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 9:38am
 
A bloke I work with is Christian Lebanese and everyday he goes on about Muslims. He told me of a story when he was visiting his wife's relatives in Syria and the windows got blown out by a huge explosion. Glass all over his children. I don't blame anybody for being critical of Islam. If it's a peaceful religion then why is the message being lost on a lot of it's followers. Say what you feel Stratos. You don't have to apologise for everything.
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Reply #19 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 10:05am
 
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
You are a joke bwian...  I live in NSW I have no doubt a much better idea about Muslims in Australia than you do.
If you want to cwy bwian,  then cry for ordinary Australians that have to put up with the intimidation and danger from the Muslim Community towards them.
Threats and actual; shootings, gang rapes, bombings, killing, organised crime gangs, outlaw bikie gangs, thuggery, riots, drugs, drive bys, aggression and intimidation in numbers...  the list goes on and on and on and on bwian...  you are a clueless apologetic. 
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Reply #20 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 10:41am
 
Big Dave wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 9:38am:
A bloke I work with is Christian Lebanese and everyday he goes on about Muslims. He told me of a story when he was visiting his wife's relatives in Syria and the windows got blown out by a huge explosion. Glass all over his children. I don't blame anybody for being critical of Islam. If it's a peaceful religion then why is the message being lost on a lot of it's followers. Say what you feel Stratos. You don't have to apologise for everything.



well the place is at war at the moment, why would anybody want to travel there?
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Reply #21 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 11:48am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:32pm:
Young Muslim Australians can detail the sense of exclusion, the harassment and the vilification they have experienced.

We know from the survey that discrimination and prejudice was experienced by a large number of young Muslim Australians within the school setting, and by Muslim youths of all ages in public areas such as streets, shopping centres and similar places.


Priceless!

I'm nominating this for this year's Most Absurd Statement Award for 2013.

It's a corker.

Say one thing wrong to a Muslim youth in Sydney and out comes the mobile phone, and before you've gone a hundred paces a dozen cars containing hostile Muslim youths have converged upon you from all points of the compass.




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Reply #22 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 11:52am
 
Nobody likes them, everybody hates them.
And they don't know why, oh, why, oh why.

Poor petals.
It's a cruel world when you can't just go around menacing people to your heart's content without changing out of your jimjams



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Reply #23 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:01pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 11:52am:
Nobody likes them, everybody hates them.
And they don't know why, oh, why, oh why.

Poor petals.
It's a cruel world when you can't just go around menacing people to your heart's content without changing out of your jimjams



http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4266952-3x2-700x467.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5663/1332/1600/20060204FilibusterCartoons.gif


I hate you more than I hate them.
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Reply #24 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:02pm
 
And the question begs: If they're so enamored with Islam and the Muslim life-style, then why don't they emigrate just like the 4 million who emigrated to Australia after the war?

Could it be because .... Oh no, surely not ... that there isn't a Centrelink dole system over there in Mohammedland like we have here?
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Reply #25 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:06pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:02pm:
And the question begs: If they're so enamored with Islam and the Muslim life-style, then why don't they emigrate just like the 4 million who emigrated to Australia after the war?

Could it be because .... Oh no, surely not ... that there isn't a Centrelink dole system over there in Mohammedland like we have here?


Jesus was born and raised in the middle east, why don't the christians go back and live there?
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Reply #26 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:08pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 11:48am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:32pm:
Young Muslim Australians can detail the sense of exclusion, the harassment and the vilification they have experienced.

We know from the survey that discrimination and prejudice was experienced by a large number of young Muslim Australians within the school setting, and by Muslim youths of all ages in public areas such as streets, shopping centres and similar places.


Priceless!

I'm nominating this for this year's Most Absurd Statement Award for 2013.

It's a corker.

Say one thing wrong to a Muslim youth in Sydney and out comes the mobile phone, and before you've gone a hundred paces a dozen cars containing hostile Muslim youths have converged upon you from all points of the compass.






Why would you want to say a wrong thing to them? Cant you mind your own business?

Are you are imbecile?

If you need back up send a message to the ADL on facebook, they will send out there 2 followers to help you.
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Reply #27 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:42pm
 
wally1 wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 10:41am:
Big Dave wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 9:38am:
A bloke I work with is Christian Lebanese and everyday he goes on about Muslims. He told me of a story when he was visiting his wife's relatives in Syria and the windows got blown out by a huge explosion. Glass all over his children. I don't blame anybody for being critical of Islam. If it's a peaceful religion then why is the message being lost on a lot of it's followers. Say what you feel Stratos. You don't have to apologise for everything.



well the place is at war at the moment, why would anybody want to travel there?
It was about 10 years ago. It's been going on a long time. Tell me wally, why are most Muslim countries at war with others or themselves?
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Reply #28 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 1:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 12:45am:
Soren wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 8:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 7:45pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 7:41pm:
Muslims, like everyone else, must take responsibility for their reputation.



Applying that logic then, the rest of Australian society must be in deep pooh if we consider you, Soren.   Roll Eyes



Yeah, the place is full of people like me and it's so crappy, boat people want to get here even at the risk of drowning.


Thankfully, you are very much in the minority in Australia, Soren with your continued efforts at


religious persecution.
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Religious persecution ?

That is a laugh!








brian,

You are either a liar and a deceiver, or an imbecile, imo.

Traditionally, a religion, has always been defined as; a group of people who gather together, in private worship of a deity [of their choice].

Dictionary;
religion = =
1 the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.          a particular system of faith and worship.
2 a pursuit or interest followed with devotion.



Dictionary;
worship = = the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.       religious rites and ceremonies.




Religious persecution ?

Of moslems ?




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Those who would naively call for tolerance of ISLAM, in Australia, and would allow Sharia law to get its foot in the door [within Australia], need only examine how moslems themselves, in unguarded moments, candidly describe ISLAM/Sharia intent in the world....



IMAGE...
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August 4, 2005      
Australian Islamic leader defends jihad
"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate," he said.
"The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, is Islam."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1430551.htm


n.b.

"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate," he said.





Religious persecution ?

Of moslems ?



ISLAM has more in common with a violent political organisation, than a religion, imo.

In that ISLAM's 'religious' doctrines encourage and justify 'religious' violence to 'defend ISLAM' [read; impose ISLAMIC 'temporal' political authority upon others].

ISLAM has a lot in common with the political methods of Nazism, and other political fascists, imo.

ISLAMIST's, in seeking to achieve their political 'ambitions', always justify using threats, intimidation, and actual political violence.

And we see this actual political violence in the world every day!






ISLAM is not so much a religion, as a criminal compact among a group of people who collectively refer to themselves as,
'moslems'....




Racist UK Thugs Attack Elderly Woman
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1323940233/11#11
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IMO, ISLAM is an 'organisation', a philosophy, which promotes criminality [by our laws], in its own followers.

And imo, a moslem is a member of a criminal organisation called 'ISLAM'.

IMO, every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every good moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

And imo, every non-moslem should be made aware and recognise, that ISLAM is in fact, a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

IMO, ISLAM is very, very, similar to the philosophy we know as Nazism.

IMO, ISLAM is definitely a philosophy which promotes violent 'religious' fascism.


Google;
similarity between islam and nazism









CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0
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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.





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brian,

People like yourself, are defending another group of people, moslems, who are quite clearly religious fascists and religious bigots.

But you turn away, from criticism of ISLAM/moslems.

Only you yourself, know the reason.


brian = = a spineless, uncritical, apologist for the followers of Mohammed.






brian,

You are spineless gutless wonder, imo.

A person who [for whatever reason] sees great evil in the world, but turns to look away;


.....want to see the body count for this month brian ???

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/




Religious persecution ?

Of moslems ?


brian,

When have you been critical of the 'religious' bigotry and the 'religious' violence, expounded within ISLAM's own religious texts ?


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #29 - Dec 8th, 2013 at 1:34pm
 
Another striking post from Yadda: Genocide Advocate.

Yadda wrote on Dec 8th, 2013 at 1:26pm:
who are quite clearly religious fascists and religious bigots.


I'm convinced you are now a bot.  Any person who quotes the kind of junk you do, would have had their head explode from critical irony mass
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