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Re: An interesting convert to Islam
Reply #30 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 7:11pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 6:57pm:
Or to put it simple, maybe he didn't like christinaity like the thousands of people who leave Christianity for other religions?


So that would be a compelling reason for him to desire the slavery of Islam? Even if "he didn't like christinaity" would that constitute a compelling reason to engage in adopted, adapted and thinly veneered, recycled pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals, in a town that did not exist before the 4th century AD?
You seem to have overlooked this related post to you Wally:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1388067196/24#24

And I realize you can't understand this, but the poor fellow had only deluded himself into believing he had ever been a Christian. Some people even believe that they became a Christian when a Priest sprinkled water on their head as an infant.

Here's how we can know he wasn't a Christian:

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Not any man, including - indeed especially - the false prophet Muhammad who proclaimed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/
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Re: An interesting convert to Islam
Reply #31 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm
 
Another lose from christianity?

Says the bible teachings are childlike.

Is Paul Walker's Co-Star Tyrese Gibson Converted from Christianity to Islam, After His Visit to Dubai?[size=14][/size]

Once fell into depression after his best friend Paul Walked died in a car crash at the end of November last year, Gibson said he "found his smile again" after a visit to an Islamic city - Dubai in United Arab Emirates, in a recently TV interview.
In the TV show "The Arsenio Hall Show" Gibson told the audience that he met his "best friend and spiritual mentor" in Dubai and the fifteen days were like "8 months already".
Upon returning to US, the star dressed in a long Middle Eastern style robe and appeared in a video, sharing how greatly he has been changed after his visit to Dubai. In his own word, he said "he changed his life forever", his life "has found the sense of purpose", "I've never experienced the love that I experienced, in a short period of time, ever in my life" and "there is a big big big plan".
In the same video, Gibson also had his message to all the Americans, suggesting them not to be "stereo type" towards the Islamic world just because of several terrorists and negative moments happened in the States. And he said the "great nation of Abudabi Dubai has given him smile again".
Gibson used to talked about his Christian faith in TBN program, saying that he "is a Christian of every bit" and said he would not like some others who "talked about God privately" but "shared about God openly". He believed that God had covered his direction and every performance, and granted his whole band safety. He even encouraged people to pray to God: "I want to encourage everybody out there. In whatever interpretation as on your heart, just get to know Him. Allow Him to order your footsteps, and your direction, just pray that God blesses you to find strength to walk into the unfamiliar."
This Fast & Furious star did not express to the public whether he had changed his religious belief after this "turning point of his life". However, in his video at home, he quoted Bible and considered his "smile again" as the Bible's teaching on "being childlike".
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Re: An interesting convert to Islam
Reply #32 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm
 
Another lose from christianity?

Says the bible teachings are childlike.

Is Paul Walker's Co-Star Tyrese Gibson Converted from Christianity to Islam, After His Visit to Dubai?


Once fell into depression after his best friend Paul Walked died in a car crash at the end of November last year, Gibson said he "found his smile again" after a visit to an Islamic city - Dubai in United Arab Emirates, in a recently TV interview.
In the TV show "The Arsenio Hall Show" Gibson told the audience that he met his "best friend and spiritual mentor" in Dubai and the fifteen days were like "8 months already".
Upon returning to US, the star dressed in a long Middle Eastern style robe and appeared in a video, sharing how greatly he has been changed after his visit to Dubai. In his own word, he said "he changed his life forever", his life "has found the sense of purpose", "I've never experienced the love that I experienced, in a short period of time, ever in my life" and "there is a big big big plan".
In the same video, Gibson also had his message to all the Americans, suggesting them not to be "stereo type" towards the Islamic world just because of several terrorists and negative moments happened in the States. And he said the "great nation of Abudabi Dubai has given him smile again".
Gibson used to talked about his Christian faith in TBN program, saying that he "is a Christian of every bit" and said he would not like some others who "talked about God privately" but "shared about God openly". He believed that God had covered his direction and every performance, and granted his whole band safety. He even encouraged people to pray to God: "I want to encourage everybody out there. In whatever interpretation as on your heart, just get to know Him. Allow Him to order your footsteps, and your direction, just pray that God blesses you to find strength to walk into the unfamiliar."
This Fast & Furious star did not express to the public whether he had changed his religious belief after this "turning point of his life". However, in his video at home, he quoted Bible and considered his "smile again" as the Bible's teaching on "being childlike".
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Re: An interesting convert to Islam
Reply #33 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 10:32pm
 
Such typical non-responsiveness. Do you understand why you were unable to provide any sort of substantive response to my prior post to you Wally? Why don't you click on that link, and reply on my post to you in the history of Mecca thread, rather than focus on the dementia suffered by a single irrelevant individual in the world, as if it had some meaning? We both know why, don't we Wally?

wally1 wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm:
Another lose from christianity?


My friend, according to an interview of Islamic clerics on Al-Jazeerah, 6 million Muslims are beginning a life in Jesus Christ every year, in Africa alone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVnILalpeo
If I remember the stat right, over 40% of those do so through a dream, vision, or being spoken to directly by Jesus Christ.

Here is how we can rest assured he wasn't a Christian Wally, unless of course he winds up repenting from this likely temporary lapse into the deception of Islam's spirit of antichrist, and then later ends his days as a Christian:

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Though he has now qualified himself, to be murdered by his new brethren for apostasy, if he should desire to become a Christian.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm#death_p...

For example 78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates
http://www.realcourage.org/2009/08/pakistan-78-percent-call-for-apostate-deaths/

wally1 wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm:
Says the bible teachings are childlike.


I see. So instead he is now expected to believe that Muhammad rode on a magic flying donkey-mule one night, from Mecca to Jerusalem, then up to the "paradise" of Muhammad's overactive imagination, and back to Mecca by morning.
http://www.brotherpete.com/mohammeds_night_journey.htm

wally1 wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm:
Says the bible teachings are childlike.

Is Paul Walker's Co-Star Tyrese Gibson Converted from Christianity to Islam, After His Visit to Dubai?


Once fell into depression after his best friend Paul Walked died in a car crash at the end of November last year, Gibson said he "found his smile again" after a visit to an Islamic city - Dubai in United Arab Emirates, in a recently TV interview.


No shortage of folks suffering mental and emotional distress, are subject to receiving the influence of unclean spirits and demons. Or "Jinn", as the Arabian pagan's and Muhammad and his family referred to their familiar spirits.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/Mohammad/occultism.htm

I'm guessing Gibson's smile would quickly fade, if he bothers to investigate Islam a little, rather than simply accept his new intellect that has been reduced to that of a 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterate.

Or perhaps even when he discovers the Norwegian tourist in Dubai, that was imprisoned, for going to the police to report being the VICTIM of rape.

"Dubai (CNN) -- Norwegian interior designer Marte Deborah Dalelv has spoken out after being handed
a 16-month prison sentence in Dubai -- after she went to police to report she had been raped by a colleague.


The 24-year-old was convicted and sentenced on charges of having unlawful sex
, making a false statement and illegal consumption of alcohol."
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/20/world/meast/uae-norway-rape-controversy/

Let alone that complete and abject ignorance he expressed, as a result of his brainwashing, when he said:

wally1 wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm:
In the same video, Gibson also had his message to all the Americans, suggesting them not to be "stereo type" towards the Islamic world just because of several terrorists and negative moments happened in the States. And he said the "great nation of Abudabi Dubai has given him smile again".


Particularly in light of the several threads in here that expose the stunning nature of this BIG LIE as so clearly revealed in polls of Muslims from around the world, over years.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1387754522/61#61

Here's just a tiny sampling of one of the dozens of polls at that link:
World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Now why don't you take a crack at the post you keep ignoring in my prior post, from the thread you keep ignoring, on the history of Mecca?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1388067196/24#24
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Re: An interesting convert to Islam
Reply #34 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 10:38pm
 
Come noe Pete, you can't settle one of the great debates of Christianity, if once saved you are also saved that easily.  Surely you know it isn't that simple.
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #35 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 12:15am
 
wally1 wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm:
Upon returning to US, the star dressed in a long Middle Eastern style robe and appeared in a video, sharing how greatly he has been changed after his visit to Dubai. In his own word, he said "he changed his life forever".....


Hard to argue with that. Here's what the poor dupe has unwittingly subjected himself to. Presuming of course, that the liars he dealt with were so dishonest that they didn't even inform him that once he became a Muslim, he would technically be subject to the death penalty for leaving.
Even the crime syndicate of the Mafia is perhaps more honest than Muslims on that matter.

http://www.realcourage.org/2009/07/ht-death-penalty/

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Chicago
: Hizb ut-Tahrir Distributes Flier Calling for “Death Penalty” for Those Who Leave Islam


By R.E.A.L. Organization • on July 20, 2009

At the July 19, 2009 Hizb ut-Tahrir America (HTA) conference in Oak Lawn, Illinois at the Oak Lawn Hilton, Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.) ’s Jeffrey Imm attended the end of the final session “The Rise of Islam” prior to Question and Answer period.  When going into the conference, each participant received a package from HTA which included:  HTA Conference Agenda, HT glossy pamphlet ” ‘Islamic Reformation’ – Exposing the Battle for Hearts and Minds,” HT flier, and CDs “An Outcry to the Islamic Ummah – For How Much Longer?!” and “The Shield – Islamic Commentary on the State of the Muslims.”

"Regarding the killing of those who seek freedom of religion and choose to leave Islam, the HTA-distributed pamphlet states:  “Apostasy is a question of what kind of person would openly and publicly abandon Islam with full knowledge that they will be killed for it, rather than either keeping it to themselves or leave the Khalifah. Hence, the death penalty only applies on those who in Khalifah openly leave Islam, and choose to remain in the state despite knowing the law; this is considered an open attack on the basis of the state which is Islam, essentially it is viewed as treason and a political attack on the Khalifah in order to undermine it.”"

wally1 wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm:
.....his life "has found the sense of purpose", "I've never experienced the love that I experienced, in a short period of time, ever in my life" and "there is a big big big plan".


Indeed. And that "big plan" is the conquest and subjugation of all non-Muslims to Muhammad's followers.
Conquest and ultimate subjugation of all mankind to DISbelieving the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, and DENYING and blaspheming the Son of God, as ARTICLES OF FAITH in Muhammad ALONE.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm

wally1 wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 9:23pm:
In the same video, Gibson also had his message to all the Americans, suggesting them not to be "stereo type" towards the Islamic world just because of several terrorists and negative moments happened in the States.


Though I doubt there was much discussion of Muhammad's mass murder of the Banu Qurayza and rape of their little girls and women and Islamic imperialistic conquest up into France and Austria of the First Jihad, let alone the over 21,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11, and the slaughter and persecution of Christians around the world by Muhammad's true followers.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm
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Re: An interesting convert to Islam
Reply #36 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 12:26am
 
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 12:15am:
Though I doubt there was much discussion of Muhammad's mass murder of the Banu Qurayza


Oh dear Pete.  After you let slip that you think genocide is acceptable under God the other day, this does seem a touch out of character.  Why is it not OK in this circumstance but OK when your God orders the kill?
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
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Reply #37 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 1:17am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 12:26am:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 12:15am:
Though I doubt there was much discussion of Muhammad's mass murder of the Banu Qurayza


Oh dear Pete.  After you let slip that you think genocide is acceptable under God the other day, this does seem a touch out of character.  Why is it not OK in this circumstance but OK when your God orders the kill?


No slip at all as you well know from the last time you brought it up.
In fact I go into it in some detail on a website.
http://www.brotherpete.com/old_testament_violence.htm

The answer of course, continues to remain in the rest of the sentence, that you continue to be too much of a coward to include in your signature:

"Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act, because it precluded them from growing up to be indoctrinated into engaging in the ritualistic prostitution, sodomy, bestiality, and sacrifice of children to idols, of their wicked parents. [add: thus separating them from God forever.]"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379233325/698#698

Why don't you stop soiling multiple threads and wasting forum space with your mindless repetition of subjects already replied to on other threads? This was already asked and answered. Your cowardice to post the whole verse continues to cause you to fail to understand.
By condemning it, you have made yourself a champion of the sacrifice of children to idols, of the Canaanites. A champion of Satan himself.

The answer continues to be that all innocent, and even ignorant people that were never quickened by the Spirit, that ever died or were killed are with the Lord today.

Thus the difference is the exact, perfect and complete opposite, of Muhammad's massacre of the Banu Qurayza.
In a couple thousand years BC God's people acting on God's orders, to bring an end to the ritualistic prostitution, sodomy, bestiality and sacrifice of children to idols and such other such reprobate and abominable Satan inspired behavior of the Canaanites - as compared to Muhammad and his boys 7th century AD slaughter of God's people (as they continue to do today) - of the literate, peaceful, faithful, productive Jewish farm boys and their dads and grandpas of the Banu Qurayza, while sexually enslaving their little sisters, moms and grandmothers, and stealing their property - on Muhammad's buddy Sa'd's instruction.
http://www.brotherpete.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm

Though it's easy to understand how some moral relativists with no concept of justice, standing outside the Spirit of God, would be unable to discern a difference.
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Reply #38 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 6:58am
 
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 1:17am:
The answer of course, continues to remain in the rest of the sentence


Bro I told you, it doesn't fit.  More than happy to put it all if it was possible.  Tried to link too but you need 10k posts.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 1:17am:
The answer continues to be that all innocent, and even ignorant people that were never quickened by the Spirit, that ever died or were killed are with the Lord today.


I still cannot believe you think that gives them.... anyone, the right to murder babies. 

Genocide is bad.  Killing babies is bad.  This isn't moral relatavism, nor is it rocket science.  Any God that would order his people to kill children, and anyone who would follow out that order, is completely reprehensible.
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Reply #39 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 7:52am
 
Former agnostic turns to islam




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Reply #40 - Jan 19th, 2014 at 7:33pm
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 6:58am:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 1:17am:
The answer of course, continues to remain in the rest of the sentence


Bro I told you, it doesn't fit.  More than happy to put it all if it was possible.  Tried to link too but you need 10k posts.


So the only other alternative a Godless person can see, is to leave it as a half truth of dissimulation.
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