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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #75 - Sep 26^th, 2013 at 12:09am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Yadda,
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bobby,

So your argument is;

1/ God is the author of the Holy scriptures.

2/ And, it was the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition.

[And [think that we all agree], that the Inquisition was set up, using the authority and resources of the Roman Catholic church.]

3/ And 'everything in the Inquisition was rationalized from the Bible.';

Therefore Christianity/God is responsible for the Inquisition ?

God is the author of the Holy scriptures, therefore, God is [and/or Christians, are] responsible for the bad behaviour [and for the poor moral choices] of men ?

Therefore Christianity is evil ?
So your argument is;
No matter what men may choose to do, God is always responsible for how men conduct themselves, here on earth - because God is the author of the Holy scriptures ?
Therefore Christianity or God is evil ?
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bobby,

Imagine that we are playing a game of poker.

I'm the dealer God, so >> i << shuffle the pack of cards, and >> i << deal you a hand of cards.

Then, subsequently as the game progresses, if you were you to 'lose your shirt', am i, the dealer God, then responsible for how you have played your game of poker ?
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Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
....
11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

Psalms 14:2
The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

1/ God is not the author of the Holy scriptures - stupid men are.

2/ And, it was the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition.

Yes - the evil Bible led to the Inquisition.
see link:

http://www.evilbible.com/

Please read the Evil Bible website & free yourself from your evil book.

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He is speechless.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall Reply #76 - Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:23am Bobby. wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 12:09am: No reply from Yadda. He is speechless. He's praying for you.
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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #77 - Sep 26^th, 2013 at 9:43am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 12:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Yadda,
Quote:

bobby,

So your argument is;

1/ God is the author of the Holy scriptures.

2/ And, it was the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition.

[And [think that we all agree], that the Inquisition was set up, using the authority and resources of the Roman Catholic church.]

3/ And 'everything in the Inquisition was rationalized from the Bible.';

Therefore Christianity/God is responsible for the Inquisition ?

God is the author of the Holy scriptures, therefore, God is [and/or Christians, are] responsible for the bad behaviour [and for the poor moral choices] of men ?

Therefore Christianity is evil ?
So your argument is;
No matter what men may choose to do, God is always responsible for how men conduct themselves, here on earth - because God is the author of the Holy scriptures ?
Therefore Christianity or God is evil ?
+++

bobby,

Imagine that we are playing a game of poker.

I'm the dealer God, so >> i << shuffle the pack of cards, and >> i << deal you a hand of cards.

Then, subsequently as the game progresses, if you were you to 'lose your shirt', am i, the dealer God, then responsible for how you have played your game of poker ?
+++

Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
....
11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

Psalms 14:2
The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

1/ God is not the author of the Holy scriptures - stupid men are.

2/ And, it was the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition.

Yes - the evil Bible led to the Inquisition.
see link:

http://www.evilbible.com/

Please read the Evil Bible website & free yourself from your evil book.

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He is speechless.

He is blessing you with love and light.

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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #78 - Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Yadda,

1/ God is not the author of the Holy scriptures - stupid men are.

2/ And, it was the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition.

Yes - the evil Bible led to the Inquisition.

1/ Stupid men, are not the author of the Holy scriptures. God is

2/ And, was it the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition ?

No - the evil in man, led to the Inquisition.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #79 - Sep 27^th, 2013 at 10:25am

Yadda wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

1/ Stupid men, are not the author of the Holy scriptures. God is

Genesis 1. (The version written by God)
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1 In the beginning I created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and my Spirit was hovering over the waters.

3 And I said to myself, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

4 I saw that the light was good, so I separated the light from the darkness.

5 I called the light “day,” and the darkness I called “night.” (in my own language) And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And then I said to myself, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.”

7 So I made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so.

8 I called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And I said to myself, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.

10 I called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters I called “seas.” And I saw that it was good.

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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #80 - Sep 27^th, 2013 at 10:38am

muso wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 10:25am:

Yadda wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

1/ Stupid men, are not the author of the Holy scriptures. God is

Genesis 1. (The version written by God)
Quote:

1 In the beginning I created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and my Spirit was hovering over the waters.

3 And I said to myself, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

4 I saw that the light was good, so I separated the light from the darkness.

5 I called the light “day,” and the darkness I called “night.” (in my own language) And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And then I said to myself, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.”

7 So I made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so.

8 I called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And I said to myself, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.

10 I called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters I called “seas.” And I saw that it was good.

It is good, my friend.

You can Google it.

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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #81 - Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:26pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Yadda,

1/ God is not the author of the Holy scriptures - stupid men are.

2/ And, it was the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition.

Yes - the evil Bible led to the Inquisition.

1/ Stupid men, are not the author of the Holy scriptures. God is

God is rather busy, writing The Bhagavad Gita, The Torah, The Bible, The Q'ran, The Book of Mormon, etc., etc. You'd reckon the fellow, being omnipotent would have gotten it right the first time, Yadda?

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2/ And, was it the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition ?

No - the evil in man, led to the Inquisition.

Ah, but they did in the name of your God, now didn't they, Yadda?

So, might it be possible for the "evil in man" to have led to Islamist Takfiri Salafist Terrorism? Roll Eyes

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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #82 - Sep 28^th, 2013 at 12:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Yadda,

1/ God is not the author of the Holy scriptures - stupid men are.

2/ And, it was the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition.

Yes - the evil Bible led to the Inquisition.

1/ Stupid men, are not the author of the Holy scriptures. God is

God is rather busy, writing The Bhagavad Gita, The Torah, The Bible, The Q'ran, The Book of Mormon, etc., etc. You'd reckon the fellow, being omnipotent would have gotten it right the first time, Yadda?

The spirit of SATAN has been busy in the world too.

He is our adversary.

And yet, so many choose to surrender to him.

1 John 4:5
They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

The Spirit of God, is the Spirit of truth.i Quote:

Quote:

2/ And, was it the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition ?

No - the evil in man, led to the Inquisition.

Ah, but they did in the name of your God, now didn't they, Yadda?

So, might it be possible for the "evil in man" to have led to Islamist Takfiri Salafist Terrorism? Roll Eyes

They certainly did.

2 Corinthians 11:14
.....for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #83 - Sep 28^th, 2013 at 12:06pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 12:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Yadda,

1/ God is not the author of the Holy scriptures - stupid men are.

2/ And, it was the existence of the Holy scriptures, which led to the Inquisition.

Yes - the evil Bible led to the Inquisition.

1/ Stupid men, are not the author of the Holy scriptures. God is

God is rather busy, writing The Bhagavad Gita, The Torah, The Bible, The Q'ran, The Book of Mormon, etc., etc. You'd reckon the fellow, being omnipotent would have gotten it right the first time, Yadda?

[nothing which is actually relevant to the points I made, deleted to save space]

Yet, if god wrote all those Holy works, which is the correct one, Yadda?

Indeed, it raises the question of God's omnipotence. Afterall, surely it'd need to just write one work and it would be perfect and correct straightaway, as God is all powerful and all knowing, now isn't it?

Ah, the contradictions of religion. You just have to love them, don't you, Yadda? That is of course, if you could stop being a zealot and actually acknowledge it was a contradiction. Which I suspect you can't... Roll Eyes

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Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall
Reply #84 - Sep 28^th, 2013 at 11:35pm

Incidentally during that terrible attack in Nairobi, a number of non Muslims managed to escape thanks to some of the Kenyan Muslims teaching them Muslim prayers so that they could pass themselves off as Muslims. Christians and Muslims have coexisted peacefully in Kenya for many years. Even when I was in that country in 1980, there were no social barriers between Muslims and Christians.

These sadistic criminals ironically strengthened those bonds. I have a lot of time for the Kenyans, particularly those from Mombasa, who were a lot more laid-back than their compatriots in Nairobi. Maybe it was the sharp contrast between the warm coastal climates and the relative coldness of Nairobi. They were not too different in outlook to Queenslanders in fact and I got on well with them. I still talk to friends over there after all that time.

One enduring memory is listening to haunting melodies played on the Swahili filimbi (flute), while chewing on green cashew nuts straight from the trees, as the sun went down in the evening, causing Fort Jesus to take on a progression of red, ochre and purple hues.

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Reply #85 - Sep 30^th, 2013 at 12:43pm

muso wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 11:35pm:

Incidentally during that terrible attack in Nairobi, a number of non Muslims managed to escape thanks to some of the Kenyan Muslims teaching them Muslim prayers so that they could pass themselves off as Muslims. Christians and Muslims have coexisted peacefully in Kenya for many years. Even when I was in that country in 1980, there were no social barriers between Muslims and Christians.

These sadistic criminals ironically strengthened those bonds. I have a lot of time for the Kenyans, particularly those from Mombasa, who were a lot more laid-back than their compatriots in Nairobi. Maybe it was the sharp contrast between the warm coastal climates and the relative coldness of Nairobi. They were not too different in outlook to Queenslanders in fact and I got on well with them. I still talk to friends over there after all that time.

One enduring memory is listening to haunting melodies played on the Swahili filimbi (flute), while chewing on green cashew nuts straight from the trees, as the sun went down in the evening, causing Fort Jesus to take on a progression of red, ochre and purple hues.

What a beautiful memory to have.

And i agree with you that rather than driving a wedge between Muslims and other religious groups in Kenya, this act will unite Kenyans in this time of grief and going forward, regardless of their religious affiliations.

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Reply #86 - Sep 30^th, 2013 at 12:51pm

UnderTheMilkyWay wrote on Sep 30^th, 2013 at 12:43pm:

muso wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 11:35pm:

Incidentally during that terrible attack in Nairobi, a number of non Muslims managed to escape thanks to some of the Kenyan Muslims teaching them Muslim prayers so that they could pass themselves off as Muslims. Christians and Muslims have coexisted peacefully in Kenya for many years. Even when I was in that country in 1980, there were no social barriers between Muslims and Christians.

These sadistic criminals ironically strengthened those bonds. I have a lot of time for the Kenyans, particularly those from Mombasa, who were a lot more laid-back than their compatriots in Nairobi. Maybe it was the sharp contrast between the warm coastal climates and the relative coldness of Nairobi. They were not too different in outlook to Queenslanders in fact and I got on well with them. I still talk to friends over there after all that time.

One enduring memory is listening to haunting melodies played on the Swahili filimbi (flute), while chewing on green cashew nuts straight from the trees, as the sun went down in the evening, causing Fort Jesus to take on a progression of red, ochre and purple hues.

What a beautiful memory to have.

And i agree with you that rather than driving a wedge between Muslims and other religious groups in Kenya, this act will unite Kenyans in this time of grief and going forward, regardless of their religious affiliations.

Ahhhh, rainbow fairyland. Didn't the Muslims and Christians in Kenya just partake in a bloodbath against each other.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall Reply #87 - Sep 30^th, 2013 at 7:22pm All I can say is that these were good people. They lived and breathed the principles of Harambee. You'll have to Google that term.
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FD Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100319	Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall Reply #88 - Sep 30^th, 2013 at 9:26pm Yes, my friends. Google it.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Attack on Nairobi Mall Reply #89 - Sep 30^th, 2013 at 10:17pm FD wrote on Sep 30^th, 2013 at 9:26pm: Yes, my friends. Google it. I did. Insh'allah, innit. Or they keeeeel you. Oh yes.
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