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Reply #15 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 12:06am
 
Yes, reading Brain's post, you see him preening vainly.

It just comes across loud and clear. The man's an ARTIST!
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Reply #16 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 3:41am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 10:00pm:
One day a couple of guys will shoot up a Muslim shopping mall



Is that a threat? i hope the authorities have tracked your IP address and have you under surveillance. You are obviously a nutter who should be kept an eye on.
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Reply #17 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 8:30am
 
These extremists are not representative of Islam.  They are mostly the result of Western rabble rousing mercenaries and extremist militias in Somalia.

THey might have released the Muslims from the mall, but a lot of those people were quick to get on Twitter and condemn them and respond to the Kenyan Interior ministry's call for volunteers.

One example of many:
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Yahya Adel Ibrahim ‏@yahya_ibrahim 33m

#WestgateAttack in #Kenya is murder, sinful, barbaric, Un-Islamic extremism, Haram, satanic, heartbreaking, criminal, heinous & cowardly



I have friends in Kenya, and I was watching the Twitter feed last night. One Muslim commentator made the comment that these criminals may be trying to divide Kenya, but they were only making the country stronger.

Muslims and Christians have peacefully coexisted in Kenya for centuries.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all I see from True Colours is defence for the terrorists. You should follow the example of the Kenyan Muslims, or perhaps you see yourself as a foreign mercenary?

This group has been staging terrorist attacks on Kenya for the last 15 years or more.  Kenya doesn't usually get involved in external affairs, but on this occasion, they formed part of a multinational African (not all Christian) force aimed at freeing the town of Kismayo from the group of foreign mercenaries and militant militias from Somalia. They took great care in warning civilians to get out of the area.

http://www.economist.com/node/21534828
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Reply #18 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 10:00am
 
muso wrote on Sep 23rd, 2013 at 8:30am:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all I see from True Colours is defence for the terrorists.


Don't lie I have not defended anything, and am opposed to the killing of non-combatants as per the teachings of Islam.

I am exposing the hypocrisy of those who are silent over the killing of 500,000 Somali Muslims by Christians.

50 people get killed in Kenya = jump up and down red in the face.
500,000 Muslims killed in Somalia by Christians since 2009 = complete silence.
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Reply #19 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 10:17am
 
muso wrote on Sep 23rd, 2013 at 8:30am:
These extremists are not representative of Islam.  They are mostly the result of Western rabble rousing mercenaries and extremist militias in Somalia.

THey might have released the Muslims from the mall, but a lot of those people were quick to get on Twitter and condemn them and respond to the Kenyan Interior ministry's call for volunteers.

One example of many:
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Yahya Adel Ibrahim ‏@yahya_ibrahim 33m

#WestgateAttack in #Kenya is murder, sinful, barbaric, Un-Islamic extremism, Haram, satanic, heartbreaking, criminal, heinous & cowardly



I have friends in Kenya, and I was watching the Twitter feed last night. One Muslim commentator made the comment that these criminals may be trying to divide Kenya, but they were only making the country stronger.

Muslims and Christians have peacefully coexisted in Kenya for centuries.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all I see from True Colours is defence for the terrorists. You should follow the example of the Kenyan Muslims, or perhaps you see yourself as a foreign mercenary?

This group has been staging terrorist attacks on Kenya for the last 15 years or more.  Kenya doesn't usually get involved in external affairs, but on this occasion, they formed part of a multinational African (not all Christian) force aimed at freeing the town of Kismayo from the group of foreign mercenaries and militant militias from Somalia. They took great care in warning civilians to get out of the area.

http://www.economist.com/node/21534828






a moslem tweet.....
"#WestgateAttack in #Kenya is murder, sinful, barbaric, Un-Islamic extremism, Haram, satanic, heartbreaking, criminal, heinous & cowardly"




BUT, the
"WestgateAttack in #Kenya is"
, NOT un-ISLAMIC.


i.e.
Such attacks ARE sanctioned by traditional and 'mainstream' ISLAMIC doctrines.


And that is the material fact, relating to this outrage and atrocity in Kenya.




p.s.
If 'moslems' are sincerely appalled
by this outrage and atrocity in Kenya, then each individual person, as a thinking and as a rational human being, should publicly denounce, and abandon ISLAM.

The moral obligation upon every human being who in the past has referred to themselves as 'moslem', is to denounce and to abandon ISLAM.i




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"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #20 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 10:59am
 
muso wrote on Sep 23rd, 2013 at 8:30am:
These extremists are not representative of Islam.  They are mostly the result of Western rabble rousing mercenaries and extremist militias in Somalia.

THey might have released the Muslims from the mall, but a lot of those people were quick to get on Twitter and condemn them and respond to the Kenyan Interior ministry's call for volunteers.

One example of many:
Quote:
Yahya Adel Ibrahim ‏@yahya_ibrahim 33m

#WestgateAttack in #Kenya is murder, sinful, barbaric, Un-Islamic extremism, Haram, satanic, heartbreaking, criminal, heinous & cowardly






a moslem tweet.....
"#WestgateAttack in #Kenya is murder, sinful, barbaric, Un-Islamic extremism, Haram, satanic, heartbreaking, criminal, heinous & cowardly"



muso,

The
"WestgateAttack in #Kenya is"
, NOT un-ISLAMIC
,
.....as the tweeter is claiming.



muso,

The tweet by that moslem, is in itself, yet another lie, and yet another falsehood, from yet another [truth denying/avoiding] moslem.

It is a statement, BY A MOSLEM, which is [either deceitfully or mistakenly] trying to absolve ISLAM of all material responsibility for the Mall attack, BY MOSLEMS, in Kenya.



And i, DO NOT give the denunciation [BY A MOSLEM] of such a violent attack, in a tweet, any credence or credit.

The 'denunciation' itself is broadcasting a falsehood, and a [imo, deceitful] denial of ISLAM's responsibility, for the behaviour of the attackers.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #21 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 11:23am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 10:53pm:
Soren wrote on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 10:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 2:48pm:
I heartily condemn this attack by Islamic extremists in Kenya.

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Strutting as ever. Who doesn't condemn this attack? And who else feels the need to jump up and strut about condemning it?

You are a very fair-weather friend and defender of Muslims, aren't you?? The moment the start shooting non-whites, you are elbowing to the fore with your 'hearty' condemnation. Ra ra ra, look at moi, I am hearty.
They can't rely on you, can they?


Roll Eyes  Hows your Toxophilia going, Soren?   Grin


I am hearty also, friends.
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Reply #22 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 11:49am
 
Islam is progress.
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Reply #23 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 12:34pm
 
True Colours wrote on Sep 23rd, 2013 at 3:41am:
Soren wrote on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 10:00pm:
One day a couple of guys will shoot up a Muslim shopping mall



Is that a threat? i hope the authorities have tracked your IP address and have you under surveillance. You are obviously a nutter who should be kept an eye on.



Don't be such a stupid idiot. Muslims can threaten everyone - and do.

It's not a threat you outraqous poseur. The point was that if that happens (ie if the boot was on the OTHER foot), I'd expect you to then shut up, after saying 'fair enough'.  Which is what you are saying now whenever a Muslim does something bloody.

You have a limitless ability to excuse every Muslim atrocity and turn every machine-gun wielding, suicide bombing Muslim into the victim. In fact you are outraged by the faintest suggestion that loads of people are the victims of Muslim violence. The idea gives you a headache.
For everyone else it's as obvious. But to the excusers like you, maintaining your victimhood status is paramount even when Muslims are the perpetrators of violence.




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Reply #24 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 1:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 2:48pm:
I heartily condemn this attack by Islamic extremists in Kenya.


If you don't condemn such attacks, you're a "spineless apologetic".  If you do condemn them, you're a "fair weather friend".   Looks like you just can't win!

Such are the problems with being consistent Brian.  Your enemies hate you for it.   I wonder how soon before we see a "fair weather friend to Muslims" attack thread from FD?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #25 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 1:21pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Sep 23rd, 2013 at 1:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2013 at 2:48pm:
I heartily condemn this attack by Islamic extremists in Kenya.


If you don't condemn such attacks, you're a "spineless apologetic".  If you do condemn them, you're a "fair weather friend".   Looks like you just can't win!

Such are the problems with being consistent Brian.  Your enemies hate you for it.   I wonder how soon before we see a "fair weather friend to Muslims" attack thread from FD?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I though condemning a slimeball that shot up a shopping mall would be a natural response.
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Reply #26 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 1:22pm
 
True Colours wrote on Sep 23rd, 2013 at 10:00am:
muso wrote on Sep 23rd, 2013 at 8:30am:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all I see from True Colours is defence for the terrorists.


Don't lie I have not defended anything, and am opposed to the killing of non-combatants as per the teachings of Islam.

I am exposing the hypocrisy of those who are silent over the killing of 500,000 Somali Muslims by Christians.

50 people get killed in Kenya = jump up and down red in the face.
500,000 Muslims killed in Somalia by Christians since 2009 = complete silence.


How do you figure out that 500,000 killed by Christians bit? If you mean the AU troops, I already demonstrated that it was no Christian army like you claim.

Apart from that Al Shabaab killed many more people than that by denying foreign aid to people who were starving in areas under their control.  Kenyan troops have only been part of the AU force in Somalia since June 2012, so the figure of 500,000, which may be the total civil war casualties for this period, cannot be attributed to the KDF.

Al Shabaab are losing the war, and have lost a major source of revenue as a result of the AU offensive. They have very little support in Somalia. It may be a minor thing to us, but banning soccer is tantamount to sacrilege to most young Somalis.
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Reply #27 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 6:27pm
 
muso,

Thank you for your post, for the argument you made.

post #26

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Reply #28 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 8:48pm
 
We should be grateful for all friends, habibis, fairweather or otherwise.

It is better to be a good friend than have such friends, isn’t it. Gud speaks through our words and deeds, bless Him, bless Him, it is so.

Gud watches us all, my friends. Let Him be happy.
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Reply #29 - Sep 23rd, 2013 at 8:59pm
 
Those muslims obviously did not read that 600 page Qadri fatwa that was supposed to outlaw Islamic terror.

If Islamic terror is unislamic then why did Qadri release a 600 page fatwa trying to outlaw Islamic terror?
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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