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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: NBN progress? Reply #1770 - Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:23pm “OBVIOSLY” “offereing” and roach reckons I have trouble with English.
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Reply #1771 - Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:29pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:06pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:03pm:

RabbitO8 wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:57pm:

"Critics say"

Telstra CEO David Thodey recently confirmed that speeds well in excess of 25mbps are capable over the Telstra network

Tests will be done to confirm the state of the copper network.....Relying on Telstra's CEO who is trying to sell or lease the network would not be wise would it???

Huh

You have to laugh at the desperation of the Lib trolls.

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/business-it/telstra-leaving-clients-on-hold-2013111...

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rabbitoh08 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1528 Gender:	Re: NBN progress? Reply #1772 - Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:30pm RabbitO8 wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:53pm: Link or you're a liar. Hey look!!! We have similar names!!!
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Reply #1773 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 12:03am

rabbitoh08 wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:30pm:

RabbitO8 wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:53pm:

Link or you're a liar.

Hey look!!!

We have similar names!!!

I actually thought you went mad overnight, then I looked closer at the name. Shocked

Who did you upset that they made a sock in honour of you, you're obviously special!

Edit: It did put me off guard for a moment, one day a rational, sane, intelligent poster, the next a blithering idiot! Grin

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Reply #1774 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 12:33am

Setanta wrote on Apr 28^th, 2014 at 12:03am:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:30pm:

RabbitO8 wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:53pm:

Link or you're a liar.

Hey look!!!

We have similar names!!!

I actually thought you went mad overnight, then I looked closer at the name. Shocked

Who did you upset that they made a sock in honour of you, you're obviously special!

Edit: It did put me off guard for a moment, one day a rational, sane, intelligent poster, the next a blithering idiot! Grin

Yes, I did a bit of a 'double-take' as well, at first.

Then spotted the spelling and the post-count, and a large copper-coloured coin hit the floor..

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: NBN progress? Reply #1775 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:25am St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:23pm: “OBVIOSLY” “offereing” and roach reckons I have trouble with English. Don't bring me into your petty tiffs... not my spelling is it... and yes... you do have problems.
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Reply #1776 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:28am

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:33pm:

The copper is rotten as in unfit for purpose —a too thin, corroded mess—and the idiotic Libs think they can rollout FTTN without extensive remediation? Dreaming!

You need to stop shooting yourself in the foot.
I'm glad you finally realised corrosion etc was more appropriate term.
Here's one for you to mull over... if water was so corrosive to copper, why do plumbers use it in housing? I mean after all wires are coated right... pipes nah. Perhaps you might like an other new term... oxidise or not Roll Eyes

Ever noticed that the wooden piles of a jetty or quay are thinnest at the level of the tides? That the part of the pile always in the water is pretty much the original thickness? Think on that. Then ask what the exact composition of water pipes is.

I have a copper, silver and garnet vase, plus various pieces of brass. They never get wet yet every year I have to polish them.

Your point? We should not have wooden wires? Grin

You are clueless yet again aren't you.
But if you stop calling copper rotten then we have achieved something haven't we. Roll Eyes

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Reply #1777 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:31am

Grendel wrote on Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:28am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:33pm:

The copper is rotten as in unfit for purpose —a too thin, corroded mess—and the idiotic Libs think they can rollout FTTN without extensive remediation? Dreaming!

You need to stop shooting yourself in the foot.
I'm glad you finally realised corrosion etc was more appropriate term.
Here's one for you to mull over... if water was so corrosive to copper, why do plumbers use it in housing? I mean after all wires are coated right... pipes nah. Perhaps you might like an other new term... oxidise or not Roll Eyes

Ever noticed that the wooden piles of a jetty or quay are thinnest at the level of the tides? That the part of the pile always in the water is pretty much the original thickness? Think on that. Then ask what the exact composition of water pipes is.

I have a copper, silver and garnet vase, plus various pieces of brass. They never get wet yet every year I have to polish them.

Your point? We should not have wooden wires? Grin

You are clueless yet again aren't you.
But if you stop calling copper rotten then we have achieved something haven't we. Roll Eyes

those supposedly 'rotten' copper wires are already running a national voice and internet network.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: NBN progress? Reply #1778 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:32am ian wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 11:20pm: RabbitO8 wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 10:53pm: Link or you're a liar. there no way I would guess you are gwendels sock puppet. We'll done Wassup Ian... still holding a grudge. Don't bring me into your pathetic ad hom attacks. BTW I don't use socks... except for my feet.
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Reply #1779 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:36am

The copper [CAN] is rotten—a corroded mess with way too many premises without even one sound pair coming in. Maintenance has been neglected far too long, few actually get the speeds they should get. My ADSL2+ gets about 20 down, .9 up, too little UPload bandwidth for a lot of things, the download becoming inadequate rapidly.

Countries where FTTN is tried—the incumbent telco owns the copper and has looked after it. Apart from Germany FTTN rollouts run into problems and get changed to FTTH. Then Lib fanbois think you can do FTTN here. Lunacy.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: NBN progress? Reply #1780 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:39am Voice can use copper too corroded for data. We have the worlds highest use of mobile internet—because the copper is too rotten in too many places to carry data.
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Reply #1781 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:47am

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

The copper [CAN] is rotten—a corroded mess with way too many premises without even one sound pair coming in. Maintenance has been neglected far too long, few actually get the speeds they should get. My ADSL2+ gets about 20 down, .9 up, too little UPload bandwidth for a lot of things, the download becoming inadequate rapidly.

Countries where FTTN is tried—the incumbent telco owns the copper and has looked after it. Apart from Germany FTTN rollouts run into problems and get changed to FTTH. Then Lib fanbois think you can do FTTN here. Lunacy.

you get 20/0.9 and you are COMPLAINING????

ADSL has a max of 24/1.0

you really are a whining greedy complainer

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Reply #1782 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:48am

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

Voice can use copper too corroded for data. We have the worlds highest use of mobile internet—because the copper is too rotten in too many places to carry data.

rubbish. complete lies.

all you ever do now is just make stuff up and hope stupid people will believe you.

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Reply #1783 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:57am

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

The copper [CAN] is rotten—a corroded mess with way too many premises without even one sound pair coming in. Maintenance has been neglected far too long, few actually get the speeds they should get. My ADSL2+ gets about 20 down, .9 up, too little UPload bandwidth for a lot of things, the download becoming inadequate rapidly.

Countries where FTTN is tried—the incumbent telco owns the copper and has looked after it. Apart from Germany FTTN rollouts run into problems and get changed to FTTH. Then Lib fanbois think you can do FTTN here. Lunacy.

you get 20/0.9 and you are COMPLAINING????

ADSL has a max of 24/1.0

you really are a whining greedy complainer

Thanks for proving the copper is rotten.

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Reply #1784 - Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:58am

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Apr 28^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

Voice can use copper too corroded for data. We have the worlds highest use of mobile internet—because the copper is too rotten in too many places to carry data.

rubbish. complete lies.

all you ever do now is just make stuff up and hope stupid people will believe you.

No, it is true. Just look at ABS stats.

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