Grendel wrote on Apr 27^th, 2014 at 9:50pm:

Elements cannot “rot” roach, I said corrode and metals do corrode.

Whatever you or longypongy might say re your service always 100% reliable that is not so for a rapidly expanding number of Australian households. Again, read the Hansard extracts I posted here.

And roach is a fricking liar. I have never said the copper rots, copper cannot rot but it certainly can erode. My EFTPOS machine at the shop had trouble after heavy rain.

Jovial_Monk wrote:
SN, really, #Fraudband (which is what the Libs called Rudd’s idea when he was still proposing FTTN, before the tender process and the Panel of Experts handed down their finding) is going to struggle to deliver up to 25mbps. Really. The copper is rotten and getting worse and is too thin, at 0.32 and 0.4mm, to offer the low impedance higher speeds demand.

Re: Fraudband
by Jovial_Monk » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:02 pm

Oh, I dunno.

4K TV will be pretty big in 2-3 years and that needs gigabit broadband. Turncoat can either:
1. Deliver nothing except fibre to greenfields, or
2. Attempt to roll out FTTN to brownfields. With Telstra copper being just rotten and too thin and Telstra’s database of cables and their condition being mostly wrong Turncoat would enter a world of pain. so he will have to;

Re: Tony Abbott's new ministry
by Jovial_Monk » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:12 pm

It seems Susan Ley might have some talent. So, naturally, she is kept out of cabinet. I wonder for how long? Six months?

One other source of tension: Malcolm Turncoat. If he doesn’t roll out #Fraudband he will be hated across the whole smacking political spectrum, from the inner city to the remotest outpost! If he does try and rollout #Fraudband he is in for a whole world of pain, the copper being in such a state a huge study needs to be done to build a database of what wires serve what premise and what state those wires are in (like rotten or sound, a proper pair or one made from two failed pairs, etc) and then deliver no more than “up to 25mbps” for some.

Rotten as in not sound. Not rotting as in breaking down into simpler substances.

Not sure if many people are aware of this but Telstra was conducting a fibre rollout in some areas of Australia before they were effectively privatised, that fibre is currently sitting there unused. If we don't watch out the next generation of data transmission will pass us by and we wil become a technological backwater. This is the sort of thing lee Kuantan yew was talking about when he said we were destined to become the poor white trash of Asia.