Australian Politics Forum - Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny

Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny Sep 11^th, 2013 at 11:36pm Tolerating Islamic misogyny by progressive feminists and (anyone else) is racist.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny Reply #1 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm you expect me to listen to that idiot?
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Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny
Reply #2 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

you expect me to listen to that idiot?

What is your opinion of Mona Eltahawy, is she more your style?

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When an article in the Egyptian criminal code says that if a woman has been beaten by her husband 'with good intentions" no punitive damages can be obtained,Then to hell with political correctness

When more than 90% of ever married women in Egypt- including my mother and all but one of her 6 sisters- had their genitals cut in the name of modesty then surely we must all blaspheme.

When Egyptian women are subjected to virginity tests for merely speaking out, its no time for silence.

More here-www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/04/23/why_do_they_hate_us

Its worth clicking on just for the pictures.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny Reply #3 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:16pm polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm: you expect me to listen to that idiot? Yes. Then you can tell us where he's gone wrong. Until then you are just flailing your arms.
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Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny
Reply #4 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:48pm

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

you expect me to listen to that idiot?

Yes. Then you can tell us where he's gone wrong. Until then you are just flailing your arms.

I do believe this is the correct method of making cheese, no?

It is a jolly worlds, isn’t it.

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polite_gandalf

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Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny
Reply #5 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 7:20pm

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

Yes. Then you can tell us where he's gone wrong. Until then you are just flailing your arms.

Why? I already know what he says - that feminists self-censor when it comes to islam's barbaric treatment of women - because they are terrified of being labelled racist.

Wow - such an original meme, I totally haven't heard that a billion times already. Roll Eyes

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Soren

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Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny
Reply #6 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:11pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

Yes. Then you can tell us where he's gone wrong. Until then you are just flailing your arms.

Why? I already know what he says - that feminists self-censor when it comes to islam's barbaric treatment of women - because they are terrified of being labelled racist.

Wow - such an original meme, I totally haven't heard that a billion times already. Roll Eyes

And so it remains true, despite being repeated a billion times.
Why? Because the bed-wetting, wishy-washy, beardy-nerdy - sorry, the moderate - Muslims like you do nothing to signal to the sisterhood that even though they are not Muslims, they have a valid criticism of Islam's misogyny and that it is safe for them to be critical of your religion despite what all the imams and scholars and assorted other authorities of Islam say.

And you will not signal to them because their being women and non-Muslims (which one is worse?), you would rather die like a pretzel, knotted and twisted, than say that you side with them against the doctrines and BS of your imams and scholars who oppose them.

Your choice is between Islam and modernity. This is as good an example of the torment and the paralysis you face as any.

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Soren

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Reply #7 - Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:12pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:48pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

you expect me to listen to that idiot?

Yes. Then you can tell us where he's gone wrong. Until then you are just flailing your arms.

I do believe this is the correct method of making cheese, no?

It is a jolly worlds, isn’t it.

With buggers like you in it, it is a laff-a-minute world, PB.

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Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny
Reply #8 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:50am

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

Yes. Then you can tell us where he's gone wrong. Until then you are just flailing your arms.

Why? I already know what he says - that feminists self-censor when it comes to islam's barbaric treatment of women - because they are terrified of being labelled racist.

Wow - such an original meme, I totally haven't heard that a billion times already. Roll Eyes

And so it remains true, despite being repeated a billion times.
Why? Because the bed-wetting, wishy-washy, beardy-nerdy - sorry, the moderate - Muslims like you do nothing to signal to the sisterhood that even though they are not Muslims, they have a valid criticism of Islam's misogyny and that it is safe for them to be critical of your religion despite what all the imams and scholars and assorted other authorities of Islam say.

And you will not signal to them because their being women and non-Muslims (which one is worse?), you would rather die like a pretzel, knotted and twisted, than say that you side with them against the doctrines and BS of your imams and scholars who oppose them.

Your choice is between Islam and modernity. This is as good an example of the torment and the paralysis you face as any.

Gandalf did admit once that Islam had major problems. I don't think that abuse and commodification of women was one of them. For some reason he went all silent on me when I tried to get him to elaborate.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny Reply #9 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:53am Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:16pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm: you expect me to listen to that idiot? Yes. Then you can tell us where he's gone wrong. Until then you are just flailing your arms. Any reason why jesus had no wife and prophet Mohammed multiple wives?
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51806 At my desk.	Re: Progressive feminism and Islamic misogyny Reply #10 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 10:03am Jesus was more comfortable with his homosexuality?
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Reply #11 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 10:12am

wally1 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:53am:

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

you expect me to listen to that idiot?

Yes. Then you can tell us where he's gone wrong. Until then you are just flailing your arms.

Any reason why jesus had no wife and prophet Mohammed multiple wives?

Yes, several. Most importantly, Jesus was on about the kingdom of the spirit, the god within. Not at all about the material possessions and worldly powers.
Priapic Mohamemed was all about power on earth and putting his end away.

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