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Reply #15 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 2:24pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:

A decorated US soldier who gunned down 16 unarmed Afghan civilians in a rampage last year has been sentenced to life behind bars without parole.

I share your outrage, TC.

He should be put before a military firing squad and executed as a war criminal.

I have a strong suspicion that the decision not to execute Robert Bale has been designed solely to set the precedent for not eventually executing Major Nidal Hasan and Khalid Sheikh Muhammed.i

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Reply #16 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 2:31pm

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

What war crimes should Howard be charged with, and what do you think would be an appropriate punishment if found guilty?

*Waging unprovoked war against Afghanistan
*Waging unprovoked war against Iraq
*Accomplice to the bombing of civilians in Iraq
*Accomplice to the bombing of civilians in Afghanistan
*Murder of civilians in Afghanistan by Australian solders
*Accomplice to torture in Afghanistan by Australian-backed militias
*Being an accomplice to the unlawful detention and torture of David Hicks
*Being an accomplice to the unlawful detention and torture of Mamdouh Habib

Punishment? I reckon let the people of Iraq and Afghanistan decide. Ship Howard off to Fallujah or Kandahar and let the locals decide.

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Reply #17 - Aug 24^th, 2013 at 3:45pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

Punishment? I reckon let the people of Iraq and Afghanistan decide. Ship Howard off to Fallujah or Kandahar and let the locals decide.

So you're admitting that the current policy of allowing an immigration and refugees influx from Afghanistan and Iraq is contrary to Australia's interests?

Allowing these people into Australia is tantamount to giving residency to our enemies?

Is this correct?

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Reply #18 - Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:02pm

I watched a documentary about how 30,000 Nazi concentration camp survivors were taken to Sweden as refugees.

Many of these Jews from the camps settled in Malmo.

They survived the Nazis only to now find themselves under siege from immigrant Muslims.

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there is no question that Malmo has surrendered. Large enclaves of the city, like similar enclaves throughout Western Europe, have earned the dread label ‘no-go zone.’ They are unsafe for non-Muslims, particularly women who do not conform to Islamist conventions of dress and social interaction. They are especially perilous for police, firefighters, and emergency-medical technicians.

Why would a community discourage the so-called first-responders? After all, the top priority of law-enforcement officers is to assist crime victims. In an Islamic enclave, a high percentage of these will be Muslims. And obviously, the fire department and the ambulances are dispatched to save lives — here, Muslim lives. Yet, the community is hostile. The police and other emergency personnel are viewed as

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Muslims living in Western societies would do well to start distancing themselves from the Islamists in a way that readily identifies them to the mainstream host people.

I don't know how they can do this, but one idea is for them to design a distinctive emblem which to the observer declares them to be secular Muslims who are sympathetic to Western values.

There's not the slightest doubt that if the countries of continental Europe, Britain, and Scandinavia were for some reason to initiate a pogrom against their Muslim communities ~ the majority of their civilian populations would be strangely quiet about this turn of events.

I wouldn't want to see the free-thinking secular Muslims getting railroaded to the camps with those who are dedicated to the Islamisation of Western society.

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Reply #19 - Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:08pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

What war crimes should Howard be charged with, and what do you think would be an appropriate punishment if found guilty?

*Waging unprovoked war against Afghanistan
*Waging unprovoked war against Iraq
*Accomplice to the bombing of civilians in Iraq
*Accomplice to the bombing of civilians in Afghanistan
*Murder of civilians in Afghanistan by Australian solders
*Accomplice to torture in Afghanistan by Australian-backed militias
*Being an accomplice to the unlawful detention and torture of David Hicks
*Being an accomplice to the unlawful detention and torture of Mamdouh Habib

Punishment? I reckon let the people of Iraq and Afghanistan decide. Ship Howard off to Fallujah or Kandahar and let the locals decide.

Under what laws are they crimes for which Howard could be charged?

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Reply #20 - Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:35pm

freediver wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:08pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

What war crimes should Howard be charged with, and what do you think would be an appropriate punishment if found guilty?

*Waging unprovoked war against Afghanistan
*Waging unprovoked war against Iraq
*Accomplice to the bombing of civilians in Iraq
*Accomplice to the bombing of civilians in Afghanistan
*Murder of civilians in Afghanistan by Australian solders
*Accomplice to torture in Afghanistan by Australian-backed militias
*Being an accomplice to the unlawful detention and torture of David Hicks
*Being an accomplice to the unlawful detention and torture of Mamdouh Habib

Punishment? I reckon let the people of Iraq and Afghanistan decide. Ship Howard off to Fallujah or Kandahar and let the locals decide.

Under what laws are they crimes for which Howard could be charged?

under our own domestic laws and international laws that our country is signatory to.

you didn't know that?

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Reply #22 - Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:37pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

I watched a documentary about how 30,000 Nazi concentration camp survivors were taken to Sweden as refugees.

Many of these Jews from the camps settled in Malmo.

They survived the Nazis only to now find themselves under siege from immigrant Muslims.

what do you mean?

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Reply #23 - Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:42pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

I watched a documentary about how 30,000 Nazi concentration camp survivors were taken to Sweden as refugees.

Many of these Jews from the camps settled in Malmo.

They survived the Nazis only to now find themselves under siege from immigrant Muslims.

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there is no question that Malmo has surrendered. Large enclaves of the city, like similar enclaves throughout Western Europe, have earned the dread label ‘no-go zone.’ They are unsafe for non-Muslims, particularly women who do not conform to Islamist conventions of dress and social interaction. They are especially perilous for police, firefighters, and emergency-medical technicians.

Why would a community discourage the so-called first-responders? After all, the top priority of law-enforcement officers is to assist crime victims. In an Islamic enclave, a high percentage of these will be Muslims. And obviously, the fire department and the ambulances are dispatched to save lives — here, Muslim lives. Yet, the community is hostile. The police and other emergency personnel are viewed as

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Muslims living in Western societies would do well to start distancing themselves from the Islamists in a way that readily identifies them to the mainstream host people.

I don't know how they can do this, but one idea is for them to design a distinctive emblem which to the observer declares them to be secular Muslims who are sympathetic to Western values.

There's not the slightest doubt that if the countries of continental Europe, Britain, and Scandinavia were for some reason to initiate a pogrom against their Muslim communities ~ the majority of their civilian populations would be strangely quiet about this turn of events.

I wouldn't want to see the free-thinking secular Muslims getting railroaded to the camps with those who are dedicated to the Islamisation of Western society.

And Palestinian christians and muslims are not under siege in Israel?

Jews cry about the holocaust then they turn around and do a holocaust on the Palestinians cause there family was killed in the holocaust.

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Reply #24 - Aug 26^th, 2013 at 10:16pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

I watched a documentary about how 30,000 Nazi concentration camp survivors were taken to Sweden as refugees.

Many of these Jews from the camps settled in Malmo.

They survived the Nazis only to now find themselves under siege from immigrant Muslims.

Quote:

there is no question that Malmo has surrendered. Large enclaves of the city, like similar enclaves throughout Western Europe, have earned the dread label ‘no-go zone.’ They are unsafe for non-Muslims, particularly women who do not conform to Islamist conventions of dress and social interaction. They are especially perilous for police, firefighters, and emergency-medical technicians.

Why would a community discourage the so-called first-responders? After all, the top priority of law-enforcement officers is to assist crime victims. In an Islamic enclave, a high percentage of these will be Muslims. And obviously, the fire department and the ambulances are dispatched to save lives — here, Muslim lives. Yet, the community is hostile. The police and other emergency personnel are viewed as

[

Muslims living in Western societies would do well to start distancing themselves from the Islamists in a way that readily identifies them to the mainstream host people.

I don't know how they can do this, but one idea is for them to design a distinctive emblem which to the observer declares them to be secular Muslims who are sympathetic to Western values.

There's not the slightest doubt that if the countries of continental Europe, Britain, and Scandinavia were for some reason to initiate a pogrom against their Muslim communities ~ the majority of their civilian populations would be strangely quiet about this turn of events.

I wouldn't want to see the free-thinking secular Muslims getting railroaded to the camps with those who are dedicated to the Islamisation of Western society.

And Palestinian christians and muslims are not under siege in Israel?

Jews cry about the holocaust then they turn around and do a holocaust on the Palestinians cause there family was killed in the holocaust.

"By adopting the principles of the NAZI regime the Israeli occupation and treatment of Palestinians dishonours the victims and survivors of the holocaust by "

(Noam Chomsky)

But then again chomsky is a self lathing Jew, what would he know?

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Reply #26 - Aug 27^th, 2013 at 12:34am

freediver wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:08pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 2:31pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

What war crimes should Howard be charged with, and what do you think would be an appropriate punishment if found guilty?

*Waging unprovoked war against Afghanistan
*Waging unprovoked war against Iraq
*Accomplice to the bombing of civilians in Iraq
*Accomplice to the bombing of civilians in Afghanistan
*Murder of civilians in Afghanistan by Australian solders
*Accomplice to torture in Afghanistan by Australian-backed militias
*Being an accomplice to the unlawful detention and torture of David Hicks
*Being an accomplice to the unlawful detention and torture of Mamdouh Habib

Punishment? I reckon let the people of Iraq and Afghanistan decide. Ship Howard off to Fallujah or Kandahar and let the locals decide.

Under what laws are they crimes for which Howard could be charged?

Australia is a signatory to many conventions against war crimes.

For example, Howard's crimes against peace are come under the Nuremberg Principles.

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Reply #27 - Aug 27^th, 2013 at 6:49am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

I watched a documentary about how 30,000 Nazi concentration camp survivors were taken to Sweden as refugees.

Many of these Jews from the camps settled in Malmo.

They survived the Nazis only to now find themselves under siege from immigrant Muslims.

what do you mean?

The Malmo Jews escaped from Hitler's exterminations camps only to find themselves 30 years later being abused, threatened, spat upon and physically assaulted by immigrant Muslims demonising them because of Israel's stand against the surrounding Muslim countries.

There are sections of the immigrant Muslim communities in Western countries that are an aggressive and hostile presence, and who are simply rats-in-the-national-silos.

My concern is that the Muslims of goodwill will eventually get lumped together with the vermin when the shooting starts, or when the cattle-trucks start rolling out to eastern European destinations where certain facilities can easily and cheaply be restored.

We have 23 immigrant Muslims sitting in our jails who had planned mass-murder upon our own people.

I get migraines just thinking about how it can possibly be that these terrorist Muslims have been given such mild sentences for what they had intended to do.

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Reply #28 - Aug 27^th, 2013 at 7:30am

wally1 wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

And Palestinian christians and muslims are not under siege in Israel

Don't be such a wally.

Every day when the border-control gates are opened to traffic, Muslims from Palestine come streaming in by the hundreds to work in Israel for wages they can't get in Palestine.

Israel is an oasis of civilisation and industry surrounded by a wasteland of Muslim failure and incompetence, poverty and endless violence.

It's why people like gandalf, True Blue, and True Colours ~ and millions of other hypocritically pious Muslims have deserted their Third World rock-ape countries to go live in secular Western civilisation.

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Reply #29 - Aug 27^th, 2013 at 7:34am

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2013 at 6:49am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 26^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

I watched a documentary about how 30,000 Nazi concentration camp survivors were taken to Sweden as refugees.

Many of these Jews from the camps settled in Malmo.

They survived the Nazis only to now find themselves under siege from immigrant Muslims.

what do you mean?

The Malmo Jews escaped from Hitler's exterminations camps only to find themselves 30 years later being abused, threatened, spat upon and physically assaulted by immigrant Muslims demonising them because of Israel's stand against the surrounding Muslim countries.

There are sections of the immigrant Muslim communities in Western countries that are an aggressive and hostile presence, and who are simply rats-in-the-national-silos.

My concern is that the Muslims of goodwill will eventually get lumped together with the vermin when the shooting starts, or when the cattle-trucks start rolling out to eastern European destinations where certain facilities can easily and cheaply be restored.

We have 23 immigrant Muslims sitting in our jails who had planned mass-murder upon our own people.

I get migraines just thinking about how it can possibly be that these terrorist Muslims have been given such mild sentences for what they had intended to do.

Although the treatment by the muslims on the jews of malmo is sad, what is also sad is the treatment by jews in Israel who routinely attack palestinains, jewish kids go around and graffiti churches and attack priests, jews destroy Palestinian crop fields and posion there animals, Detentention of 5 year old kids, bombing of houses and villages by the jewish army etc etc

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