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Reply #75 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:01pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:00pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 12:58pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 12:57pm:
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Maternity leave tax is not a great big new tax because it only applies to some companies.

Carbon tax is a Great big tax even though it is applied only to some companies.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Thick or what.... honestly don't you use electricty...  was my font size too small for you to see?

The carbon tax has been instituted in order to cut usage...  by making power more expensive...  oh dear now let me think...  who uses electricty?  I do.

Hope you are comfortable in your cave alevine  Cheesy


Are you a consumer?  Do you use money?


yes and as my usage goes down my bills keep going up  Grin

Just like Tony's great big tax for maternity leave will mean you will buy less spending more.
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Reply #76 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:13pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 12:57pm:
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Maternity leave tax is not a great big new tax because it only applies to some companies.

Carbon tax is a Great big tax even though it is applied only to some companies.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Thick or what.... honestly don't you use electricty...  was my font size too small for you to see?

The carbon tax has been instituted in order to cut usage...  by making power more expensive...  oh dear now let me think...  who uses electricty?  I do.

Hope you are comfortable in your cave alevine  Cheesy


and you think these 'companies' that will be hit with a new tax for maternity leave won't pass the extra cost onto consumers?   Grin Grin
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #77 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:15pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:13pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 12:57pm:
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Maternity leave tax is not a great big new tax because it only applies to some companies.

Carbon tax is a Great big tax even though it is applied only to some companies.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Thick or what.... honestly don't you use electricty...  was my font size too small for you to see?

The carbon tax has been instituted in order to cut usage...  by making power more expensive...  oh dear now let me think...  who uses electricty?  I do.

Hope you are comfortable in your cave alevine  Cheesy


and you think these 'companies' that will be hit with a new tax for maternity leave won't pass the extra cost onto consumers?   Grin Grin


Don't be silly.  Tony has magical powers and he will use these to ensure no company treats his tax like they have treated the dreadfull great new toxic carbon tax.
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Reply #78 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:22pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 8:35am:
[size=12]I must say, I'm not so much astounded that there IS a turnaround in Labor's fortunes - but more by the sheer MAGNITUDE of it


Where WAS the electorate's big problem with Gillard - that is now not seen as a problem with the party, itself ?




The "knifing" of the sitting Prime Minister  ( ... I so LOATHE that expression - especially by our more intelligent political reporters) ?

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If you do indeed LOATHE that expression why not use a bigger font and add a bit of colour? Crayons, you're standards are slipping.


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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
 
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Reply #79 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:27pm
 
salad in wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:22pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 8:35am:
[size=12]I must say, I'm not so much astounded that there IS a turnaround in Labor's fortunes - but more by the sheer MAGNITUDE of it


Where WAS the electorate's big problem with Gillard - that is now not seen as a problem with the party, itself ?




The "knifing" of the sitting Prime Minister  ( ... I so LOATHE that expression - especially by our more intelligent political reporters) ?

[...]




If you do indeed LOATHE that expression why not use a bigger font and add a bit of colour? Crayons, you're standards are slipping.




Colour police?
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Reply #80 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:29pm
 
I wonder about opinion polls in this case. Rudd's polling hasn't been tested over time. Respondents use polls to make a point. Sure, voters might be happy with the change to Rudd, but are they committed to voting Labor?

My money's still on the Coalition, and I'm betting on a shoe-in.

As tasteless and hypocritical as an Abbott government will be, Labor will get the opportunity to reform itself in opposition. I doubt Rudd has the ability to do this, but who knows? Maybe the NSW right will take serious action.

And I doubt this too.

The best we can hope for is a Liberal leadership transition to Turnbull in a couple of terms. But again, I doubt Abbott will give up power so easily. Without anything drastic happening (and the Libs aren't known for drastic changes), we're stuck with Abbott - possibly for a generation.

Over time, the legacy of the current government will rot and start to smell. The Libs rode on Keating's unpopularity and high interest rates for a over decade. They're perfectly capable of recalling the memory of Labor chaos, and they will - for years.

And they have every right to do so. The Labor Party is toxic. It's rotting from within.

I think this election is the last opportunity Labor will have to form government for at least a decade. We all know they don't deserve it. The only thing that will get them over the line is the mistrust of Abbott.

Australia faces tough economic times, and people will keep the Libs in to manage this. The current deficit will haunt the Labor brand, and I can't see anyone in the party now who's capable of selling a new day.

I know this isn't a bright outlook, but let's get real. Labor did it to themselves when they ousted a first-term PM.

It's in the interest of the media to sell a real competition here - and we all want this - but let's face facts. Without real action (and there isn't time for this), Rudd will not get the ALP over the line. Labor's self-created problems are far too entrenched.

Rudd's only window of opportunity is the genuine fear of what an Abbott government would look like. He might have closed the gap, but this fear would need to be magnified to grotesque proportions for the electorate to deliberately vote Labor back in.
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Reply #81 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:30pm
 
STOP THE BOATS.
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Reply #82 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:30pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:27pm:
salad in wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:22pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 8:35am:
[size=12]I must say, I'm not so much astounded that there IS a turnaround in Labor's fortunes - but more by the sheer MAGNITUDE of it


Where WAS the electorate's big problem with Gillard - that is now not seen as a problem with the party, itself ?




The "knifing" of the sitting Prime Minister  ( ... I so LOATHE that expression - especially by our more intelligent political reporters) ?

[...]




If you do indeed LOATHE that expression why not use a bigger font and add a bit of colour? Crayons, you're standards are slipping.




Colour police?


I think virtually everyone agrees that large fonts and colours used for more than a few words is annoying. Buzz, hater of women, loves colours and large fonts.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #83 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:32pm
 
You are kidding yourself if you vote for the Coalition...Tony Abbott wants to abolish the right of women to vote...heck he wants to abolish the right to vote for everyone.  He does not believe in democracy.
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Reply #84 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:33pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:29pm:
I wonder about opinion polls in this case. Rudd's polling hasn't been tested over time. Respondents use polls to make a point. Sure, voters might be happy with the change to Rudd, but are they committed to voting Labor?

My money's still on the Coalition, and I'm betting on a shoe-in.

As tasteless and hypocritical as an Abbott government will be, Labor will get the opportunity to reform itself in opposition. I doubt Rudd has the ability to do this, but who knows? Maybe the NSW right will take serious action.

And I doubt this too.

The best we can hope for is a Liberal leadership transition to Turnbull in a couple of terms. But again, I doubt Abbott will give up power so easily. Without anything drastic happening (and the Libs aren't known for drastic changes), we're stuck with Abbott - possibly for a generation.

Over time, the legacy of the current government will rot and start to smell. The Libs rode on Keating's unpopularity and high interest rates for a over decade. They're perfectly capable of recalling the memory of Labor chaos, and they will - for years.

And they have every right to do so. The Labor Party is toxic. It's rotting from within.

I think this election is the last opportunity Labor will have to form government for at least a decade. We all know they don't deserve it. The only thing that will get them over the line is the mistrust of Abbott.

Australia faces tough economic times, and people will keep the Libs in to manage this. The current deficit will haunt the Labor brand, and I can't see anyone in the party now who's capable of selling a new day.

I know this isn't a bright outlook, but let's get real. Labor did it to themselves when they ousted a first-term PM.

It's in the interest of the media to sell a real competition here - and we all want this - but let's face facts. Without real action (and there isn't time for this), Rudd will not get the ALP over the line. Labor's self-created problems are far too entrenched.

Rudd's only window of opportunity is the genuine fear of what an Abbott government would look like. He might have closed the gap, but this fear would need to be magnified to grotesque proportions for the electorate to deliberately vote Labor back in.


very well said. I still think that if Rudd tries to stay in as long as possible that he will be exposed as a fraud.  He is still promising everything people want and saying everything people want to hear while having a history of achieving very little.
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Reply #85 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:38pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:32pm:
You are kidding yourself if you vote for the Coalition...Tony Abbott wants to abolish the right of women to vote...heck he wants to abolish the right to vote for everyone.  He does not believe in democracy.


you are a moron
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Reply #86 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:39pm
 
For the 2 or more people who don't get it....  the carbon tax penalises electricity usage  we all use electricity dearies.
The parental leave scheme will hit some companies and some may pass it on but that does not mean it will hit everyone equally if at all...

And as previously stated there was going to be compensated for. Roll Eyes
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Reply #87 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:46pm
 

The massive swing in the polls underlines why polls should not be taken too seriously.

All the conga line have used polls to drive all sorts of agenda's, even the call for a new election.

But as weve seen, they are personality driven, if over 2 weeks we get a 10-15% swing with a change of leader.

Crazy.  Hopefully this will spell the death of our obsession with polls. ... at least it will for the right among us.
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Reply #88 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:49pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:39pm:
For the 2 or more people who don't get it....  the carbon tax penalises electricity usage  we all use electricity dearies.
The parental leave scheme will hit some companies and some may pass it on but that does not mean it will hit everyone equally if at all...

And as previously stated there was going to be compensated for. Roll Eyes

Who was going to be compensated for paternity leave?  What's my tax cut going to be?

And you're right.
No one uses banks, supermarkets, retaillers, cars, insurers, food outlets, no one watches movies, etc. etc.

Plus, quite interesting
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4676538.html
But I'm sure David Richardson is incorrect as Tony is a magician who will make it all work very well and we won't have to pay a single cent. Unlike that dreadful toxic carbon tax that we didn't even receive compensation for!  Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #89 - Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:49pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 1:39pm:
For the 2 or more people who don't get it....  the carbon tax penalises electricity usage .


Wrong. So embarrassing for you to pontificate a position of higher intelligence, then get it so wrong.
The carbon tax penalizes some ways of the generation of electricity.  A user of electricity can choose not to source their power from that those ways.
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