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Reply #60 - May 31^st, 2013 at 3:19pm

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Why English people go to America? Because the king of British could not give them liberty.

Australia is a new world for everybody.

You don't walk into someone's house and claim that it is now a public gathering spot. Australia belongs to Australians. It does not have an open door to everyone on earth.

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And I made an equal deal with the government of Australia. Australia need my skills and technology, I need the liberty and human rights. And the government of Australia told me Australia is a secular country with　multicultural society. The freedom of religion will be respected.

No we don't. We don't need your claimed skills (skills that you refuse to talk about).

I'm sure however than there are many other nations that do need your skills (whatever they are). Why don't you go there and share your skills with them?

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Reply #61 - May 31^st, 2013 at 3:33pm

It was exactly white intruders "walk into someone's house and claim that it is now their house".

I came to Australia as a technology immigrant. You are not Australia, you are only one man in Australia as me, what you said can not change the truth.

When you said "We don't need your claimed skills", it's same to that I ask you to "get back to Europe". It's nothing.

Based on your logic, I am an Australian now. If you don't like me, why not you go to other country? You may try to find a country that they need racists.

Quantum wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 3:19pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Why English people go to America? Because the king of British could not give them liberty.

Australia is a new world for everybody.

You don't walk into someone's house and claim that it is now a public gathering spot. Australia belongs to Australians. It does not have an open door to everyone on earth.

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And I made an equal deal with the government of Australia. Australia need my skills and technology, I need the liberty and human rights. And the government of Australia told me Australia is a secular country with　multicultural society. The freedom of religion will be respected.

No we don't. We don't need your claimed skills (skills that you refuse to talk about).

I'm sure however than there are many other nations that do need your skills (whatever they are). Why don't you go there and share your skills with them?

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Reply #63 - May 31^st, 2013 at 3:48pm

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 3:33pm:

It was white intruders "walk into someone's house and claim that it is now their house".

I came to Australia as a technology immigrant. You are not Australia, you are only one man in Australia as me, what you said can not change the truth.

When you said "We don't need your claimed skills", it's same to that I ask you to "get back to Europe". It's nothing.

Based on your logic, I am an Australian now. If you don't like me, why not you go to other country? You may try to find a country that they need racists.

Quantum wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 3:19pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Why English people go to America? Because the king of British could not give them liberty.

Australia is a new world for everybody.

You don't walk into someone's house and claim that it is now a public gathering spot. Australia belongs to Australians. It does not have an open door to everyone on earth.

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And I made an equal deal with the government of Australia. Australia need my skills and technology, I need the liberty and human rights. And the government of Australia told me Australia is a secular country with　multicultural society. The freedom of religion will be respected.

No we don't. We don't need your claimed skills (skills that you refuse to talk about).

I'm sure however than there are many other nations that do need your skills (whatever they are). Why don't you go there and share your skills with them?

I was born in Australia, not Europe. Why do you say I should go back to Europe? Just because I'm white? Raccccccccccccccist!!!

You still haven't answered the question. You claim Muslims and Christians are the same and as Intolerant of others as each other. You claim you came to Australia to share your skills and make Australia better by bring your culture with you.

So why didn't you go to an Islamic country? Particularly one less advance that could use your special skills and one which is not multicultural already so that you could add the diversity you bring to their nation. Why come to a country more advanced than your own that is already filled with people from your country living just like they would in their own country? Why not go to a country that needs you?

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Reply #64 - May 31^st, 2013 at 3:49pm

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 2:22pm:

If they are not living in peace, the law should stop them no matter if they are white racists or extreme Muslims. And this is not against the Multiculturalism. This is the protection to the Multicultural society.

ian wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 12:49pm:

But they arent living in peace. Middle eastern immigration has been an abysmal failure in this country and everywhere else. Why on earth are we bringing a regressive culture into this country which refuses to change its entrenched attitudes which our culture left behind centuries ago?

Arrogant and ridiculous statement. Why should we import migrants only to fill our prisons with them? And I certainly dont see the argument that being a multicultural country the predominant culture (anglo saxon) should then corrupt their culture to suit migrants. We are offering migrants what has been decribed as a "glittering prize " of australian citizenship. Which to most of the world it most definitely is. Be grateful, assimilate or nick off back to whatever war torn cesspool you think has so much more of a superior culture to ours.

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Reply #65 - May 31^st, 2013 at 4:29pm

My son was born in Australia several months ago. I ask you to go back to Europe because you ask me to leave Australia. Racist

I answered the question, but you ignored. Australia is a new world. Most people living in Australia are immigrants or their close progeny like me and my son.

I won't migrant to the Islam countries．Similarly I won't migrant to England either.

Quantum wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 3:48pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 3:33pm:

It was white intruders "walk into someone's house and claim that it is now their house".

I came to Australia as a technology immigrant. You are not Australia, you are only one man in Australia as me, what you said can not change the truth.

When you said "We don't need your claimed skills", it's same to that I ask you to "get back to Europe". It's nothing.

Based on your logic, I am an Australian now. If you don't like me, why not you go to other country? You may try to find a country that they need racists.

Quantum wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 3:19pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Why English people go to America? Because the king of British could not give them liberty.

Australia is a new world for everybody.

You don't walk into someone's house and claim that it is now a public gathering spot. Australia belongs to Australians. It does not have an open door to everyone on earth.

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And I made an equal deal with the government of Australia. Australia need my skills and technology, I need the liberty and human rights. And the government of Australia told me Australia is a secular country with　multicultural society. The freedom of religion will be respected.

No we don't. We don't need your claimed skills (skills that you refuse to talk about).

I'm sure however than there are many other nations that do need your skills (whatever they are). Why don't you go there and share your skills with them?

I was born in Australia, not Europe. Why do you say I should go back to Europe? Just because I'm white? Raccccccccccccccist!!!

You still haven't answered the question. You claim Muslims and Christians are the same and as Intolerant of others as each other. You claim you came to Australia to share your skills and make Australia better by bring your culture with you.

So why didn't you go to an Islamic country? Particularly one less advance that could use your special skills and one which is not multicultural already so that you could add the diversity you bring to their nation. Why come to a country more advanced than your own that is already filled with people from your country living just like they would in their own country? Why not go to a country that needs you?

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Reply #66 - May 31^st, 2013 at 4:35pm

Arrogant and ridiculous, it's exactly fit for you. When you claim the migrants fill the prison, you forget the ancestors of many Australian were prisoners.

There are many great migrants. Why you only focus on the prisoners?

ian wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 2:22pm:

If they are not living in peace, the law should stop them no matter if they are white racists or extreme Muslims. And this is not against the Multiculturalism. This is the protection to the Multicultural society.

ian wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 12:49pm:

But they arent living in peace. Middle eastern immigration has been an abysmal failure in this country and everywhere else. Why on earth are we bringing a regressive culture into this country which refuses to change its entrenched attitudes which our culture left behind centuries ago?

Arrogant and ridiculous statement. Why should we import migrants only to fill our prisons with them? And I certainly dont see the argument that being a multicultural country the predominant culture (anglo saxon) should then corrupt their culture to suit migrants. We are offering migrants what has been decribed as a "glittering prize " of australian citizenship. Which to most of the world it most definitely is. Be grateful, assimilate or nick off back to whatever war torn cesspool you think has so much more of a superior culture to ours.

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Reply #67 - May 31^st, 2013 at 4:50pm

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 4:29pm:

My son was born in Australia several months ago.

Congratulations on your anchor baby. You probably got the damn baby bonus as well.

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I ask you to go back to Europe because you ask me to leave Australia. Racist

I didn't tell you to leave because your have slant eyes. I asked why you didn't go to another country since what you have to offer Australia doesn't need and there are plenty of other nations that do.

I also asked based on the fact that you have no respect for Australian culture and clearly hate white people. But as always you think everyone else is a racist.

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I answered the question, but you ignored. Australia is a new world. Most people living in Australia are immigrants or their close progeny like me and my son.

I won't migrant to the Islam countries．Similarly I won't migrant to England either.

Who declared Australia a new world open to all? You?

Funny that you won't go to England but you will come here? Of all the nations on earth you come to a country the most like England in law, culture, etc. Not Saudi Arabia, not Brazil, or Zimbabwe... But instead you come to Australia, the daughter of England. Unreal.

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Reply #68 - May 31^st, 2013 at 5:17pm

Australian government told me Australia need my skills. I believed them. That's all.

And I don't hate white people when they are not racists and respect my culture as I respect their culture. Australian culture is composed by multiple cultures including your culture and my culture. If you respect my culture, I respect your culture too.

Australia is an immigrant country, quite different from the traditional countries like England, China or Egypt. Most of the people living in Australia are migrants not aborigines. It's one of the important reasons I choose Australia.

Quantum wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 4:50pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 4:29pm:

My son was born in Australia several months ago.

Congratulations on your anchor baby. You probably got the damn baby bonus as well.

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I ask you to go back to Europe because you ask me to leave Australia. Racist

I didn't tell you to leave because your have slant eyes. I asked why you didn't go to another country since what you have to offer Australia doesn't need and there are plenty of other nations that do.

I also asked based on the fact that you have no respect for Australian culture and clearly hate white people. But as always you think everyone else is a racist.

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I answered the question, but you ignored. Australia is a new world. Most people living in Australia are immigrants or their close progeny like me and my son.

I won't migrant to the Islam countries．Similarly I won't migrant to England either.

Who declared Australia a new world open to all? You?

Funny that you won't go to England but you will come here? Of all the nations on earth you come to a country the most like England in law, culture, etc. Not Saudi Arabia, not Brazil, or Zimbabwe... But instead you come to Australia, the daughter of England. Unreal.

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Reply #69 - May 31^st, 2013 at 5:59pm

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 5:17pm:

Australian government told me Australia need my skills. I believed them. That's all.

And I don't hate white people when they are not racists and respect my culture as I respect their culture. Australian culture is composed by multiple cultures including your culture and my culture. If you respect my culture, I respect your culture too.

1) You have shown no respect for Australian culture. Instead you have constantly gone on about invasion, genocide, and racism, in reference to white Australians. You also believe we have a duty to learn your language to make you feel more welcome, yet you have also said that immigrants shouldn't have to learn English. Respect my arse!
2) Australia is predominately Australian culture. My culture. Not your Chinese culture. Stop pretending that they have equal worth.
3) It is a ridiculous argument to pretend that Australia is made up of many cultures that all have equal worth including Australian culture. See the key word there? Australian. There is a reason why Australian culture is called Australian culture. Because it is the culture of Australia. It is not just another one of the cultures like the Chinese one you bring. It is the primary one and the only one that matters.
4) I don't care what the Australian government told you. They don't speak on behalf of all Australians. What's that? You reckon they do? Well I guess you must also reckon that the Chinese government speaks on behalf of all Chinese people, right?

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Australia is an immigrant country, quite different from the traditional countries like England, China or Egypt. Most of the people living in Australia are migrants not aborigines. It's one of the important reasons I choose Australia.

There are more immigrants in England than in Australia. The place is a smacking wreak. Maybe if you flipped from the Chinese satellite channel on your TV to an Australian one you would have noticed the mess they are in the last week.

Chinese is a traditional country? Convenient that. Maybe you should go home and champion the multicultural cause there. Or is it ok for them to be racist and have no diversity?

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Reply #70 - May 31^st, 2013 at 6:17pm

Your culture is only a part of Australian culture. Please stop to call your own culture as Australian culture. It's wrong and disrespect to other cultures of Australian culture.

Yes, Australian culture is the culture of Australia, not British, not China, not Jewish, not Islam but the composition of all of these cultures. I wonder if you remember that the original Australian culture is not British culture but Aboriginal culture. While white intruders could change Australia culture, new migrants can change the culture too.

What you said only shows your racism. If you ask me to go back to China, you should go back to Europe at first. Australia is not your expected "pure white" country or "British culture" country.

I made an equal deal with Australia government and I am Australian now. If you don't care about the deal, I don't care what you said too.

Quantum wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 5:59pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 5:17pm:

Australian government told me Australia need my skills. I believed them. That's all.

And I don't hate white people when they are not racists and respect my culture as I respect their culture. Australian culture is composed by multiple cultures including your culture and my culture. If you respect my culture, I respect your culture too.

1) You have shown no respect for Australian culture. Instead you have constantly gone on about invasion, genocide, and racism, in reference to white Australians. You also believe we have a duty to learn your language to make you feel more welcome, yet you have also said that immigrants shouldn't have to learn English. Respect my arse!
2) Australia is predominately Australian culture. My culture. Not your Chinese culture. Stop pretending that they have equal worth.
3) It is a ridiculous argument to pretend that Australia is made up of many cultures that all have equal worth including Australian culture. See the key word there? Australian. There is a reason why Australian culture is called Australian culture. Because it is the culture of Australia. It is not just another one of the cultures like the Chinese one you bring. It is the primary one and the only one that matters.
4) I don't care what the Australian government told you. They don't speak on behalf of all Australians. What's that? You reckon they do? Well I guess you must also reckon that the Chinese government speaks on behalf of all Chinese people, right?

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Australia is an immigrant country, quite different from the traditional countries like England, China or Egypt. Most of the people living in Australia are migrants not aborigines. It's one of the important reasons I choose Australia.

There are more immigrants in England than in Australia. The place is a smacking wreak. Maybe if you flipped from the Chinese satellite channel on your TV to an Australian one you would have noticed the mess they are in the last week.

Chinese is a traditional country? Convenient that. Maybe you should go home and champion the multicultural cause there. Or is it ok for them to be racist and have no diversity?

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Reply #71 - May 31^st, 2013 at 7:05pm

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 6:17pm:

Your culture is only a part of Australian culture. Please stop to call your own culture as Australian culture. It's wrong and disrespect to other cultures of Australian culture.

Yes, Australian culture is the culture of Australia, not British, not China, not Jewish, not Islam but the composition of all of these cultures. I wonder if you remember that the original Australian culture is not British culture but Aboriginal culture. While white intruders could change Australia culture, new migrants can change the culture too.

Right here. This is the problem. In your mind;

Chinese culture is Chinese
Indian culture is Indian
British culture is British
Jewish culture is Jewish
Australian culture is a mix of all these other cultures

Bullshit. Australian culture is Australian. We have our own ways and attitudes distinctive to us.

This post of yours is all the proof needed that you don't understand Australia. It is all the proof needed that you don't respect Australian culture. You claim to show respect to my culture, but when it comes down to it you don't even acknowledge that it exist.

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Reply #72 - May 31^st, 2013 at 7:14pm

You always ignore the important truth. Australia is a migrant country. The residents of Australia always change but new migrants.

Before the white intruders came to Australia, most Australians are Aboriginals. Then the white intruders came, killed most of Aboriginal Australians. Chinese came in peace in 19th century too, but the early Chinese migrants were oppressed by the white government. After that, the criminal White Australia Policy was broken. More migrants come to Australia with their own culture.

The culture of Australia always change by the change of residents. Now, Australia is a multicultural country. And the Australian culture is composed by different cultures of different residents.

Quantum wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 7:05pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 6:17pm:

Your culture is only a part of Australian culture. Please stop to call your own culture as Australian culture. It's wrong and disrespect to other cultures of Australian culture.

Yes, Australian culture is the culture of Australia, not British, not China, not Jewish, not Islam but the composition of all of these cultures. I wonder if you remember that the original Australian culture is not British culture but Aboriginal culture. While white intruders could change Australia culture, new migrants can change the culture too.

Right here. This is the problem. In your mind;

Chinese culture is Chinese
Indian culture is Indian
British culture is British
Jewish culture is Jewish
Australian culture is a mix of all these other cultures

Bullshit. Australian culture is Australian. We have our own ways and attitudes distinctive to us.

This post of yours is all the proof needed that you don't understand Australia. It is all the proof needed that you don't respect Australian culture. You claim to show respect to my culture, but when it comes down to it you don't even acknowledge that it exist.

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Reply #73 - May 31^st, 2013 at 7:49pm

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 7:14pm:

You always ignore the important truth. Australia is a migrant country. The residents of Australia always change but new migrants.

Before the white intruders came to Australia, most Australians are Aboriginals. Then the white intruders came, killed most of Aboriginal Australians. Chinese came in peace in 19th century too, but the early Chinese migrants were oppressed by the white government. After that, the criminal White Australia Policy was broken. More migrants come to Australia with their own culture.

The culture of Australia always change by the change of residents. Now, Australia is a multicultural country. And the Australian culture is composed by different cultures of different residents.

Keep digging mate. You want everyone to respect your Chinese culture yet you have shown time and time again that you have no respect for australian culture. Now you're even admitting that you don't believe Australian culture exist but that it is just a mix of everything else.

There are non Chinese people living in China. but I doubt for a minute you believe they are a part of Chinese culture.

The World according to Bowen:

If a brit lives in China - he is a brit who is living in China. If he lives like a brit, then he is living by his british culture and not Chinese culture which is distinct.

If a chinaman lives in Australia - he is an australian living in Australia. If he lives like a Chinaman, then he is an Australian living by Australian culture which is made up of Chinese culture and all the rest.

Bullshit. You're just making it up as you go. You want us to believe that Chinese culture is traditional and distinct and deserving of respect, whilst at the same time claiming that Australian Culture is whatever it is at the time.

Go to South West Sydney where 99% of the population are Chinese; watching Chinese TV, speaking Chinese, eating Chinese, only associating and living like Chinese... According to you that's Australian. They live in Australia therefore they represent Australian culture.

Ridiculous! This is why you don't get respect. You show none whatsoever.

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Reply #74 - May 31^st, 2013 at 8:01pm

You always ignore the important truth. Neither you nor me are the original residents of Australia.

The original Australian culture was almost destroyed by the white intruders 200 years ago.

Different from China, British and Egypt, Australian culture is decided by the migrants instead of the Aboriginals. You always pretend you don't understand.

Quantum wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 7:49pm:

Bowen wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 7:14pm:

You always ignore the important truth. Australia is a migrant country. The residents of Australia always change but new migrants.

Before the white intruders came to Australia, most Australians are Aboriginals. Then the white intruders came, killed most of Aboriginal Australians. Chinese came in peace in 19th century too, but the early Chinese migrants were oppressed by the white government. After that, the criminal White Australia Policy was broken. More migrants come to Australia with their own culture.

The culture of Australia always change by the change of residents. Now, Australia is a multicultural country. And the Australian culture is composed by different cultures of different residents.

Keep digging mate. You want everyone to respect your Chinese culture yet you have shown time and time again that you have no respect for australian culture. Now you're even admitting that you don't believe Australian culture exist but that it is just a mix of everything else.

There are non Chinese people living in China. but I doubt for a minute you believe they are a part of Chinese culture.

The World according to Bowen:

If a brit lives in China - he is a brit who is living in China. If he lives like a brit, then he is living by his british culture and not Chinese culture which is distinct.

If a chinaman lives in Australia - he is an australian living in Australia. If he lives like a Chinaman, then he is an Australian living by Australian culture which is made up of Chinese culture and all the rest.

Bullshit. You're just making it up as you go. You want us to believe that Chinese culture is traditional and distinct and deserving of respect, whilst at the same time claiming that Australian Culture is whatever it is at the time.

Go to South West Sydney where 99% of the population are Chinese; watching Chinese TV, speaking Chinese, eating Chinese, only associating and living like Chinese... According to you that's Australian. They live in Australia therefore they represent Australian culture.

Ridiculous! This is why you don't get respect. You show none whatsoever.

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