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Reply #180 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:40pm

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:31pm:

What you did is only sophistry. From what you said, you are a racist. And your example shows a racist too.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Why not you read the definition of "race" by wikipedia?

Because the disrespect to different culture, It breaks the twins apart when they have the chance to live together. That's what exactly the racists like you did to the Australian society.

You keep calling me a racist because you are changing the word to mean something that it is not.

Fine. Your a pedophile.

Don't get offended. I'm allowed to call you a pedophile. From Wikipedia;

"The word comes from the Greek: παῖς (paîs), meaning "child", and φιλία (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship"

Don't you see how your are a pedophile? Look;

*You just had a baby.
*You love your baby.
*Therefore you love children
*therefore you are a pedophile.

Don't argue. Wikipedia proves you are a pedophile.

Of course any English speaker would know that not all parents are pedophiles just because they love their children. But if we want to just get down to the most basic and broad sense of the word... then yeah they are.

That's the logic you are using to call me a racist. In fact, you have broadened the word so far beyond its actual meaning that even you yourself are a racist by your definition.

You want to talk about human rights? Well you don't have the right to accuse someone of something like racism when they are not. You want to be shown respect? Then stop be so disrespectful by calling people racist just because they don't agree with your vision of society. Do you want to be called a pedophile? No? Then stop calling me a racist by mixing culture and race into one thing.

No. It is showing how quoting a Wikipedia source by braking down the word to its most basic form, and then applying that basic form to everything that it remotely resembles, is pointless.

That's what you are doing with your "racism" accusations. Wikipedia gives a broad outline of the elements of racism; one of those words happens to be culture, so you now assume that all commentary of culture is a form of racism to justify your baseless accusations.

You can't play this both ways. If the Wikipedia quote of racism gives you permission to falsely accusing people of being racist, then you will also have to accept the Wikipedia quote that allows false accusations of Pedophilia. But then again, maybe you can try to play this both ways. You have so far on every issue that has been discussed so far.

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Reply #181 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm

Don't you eat animal? What's the difference between pig, sheep, cow, dog and cats? It's only different cultures.

Muslims do not eat pig, Indian do not eat cow. Can Indian blame you eating beefsteak as insult to their god?

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Why not you read the definition of "race" by wikipedia?

Because the disrespect to different culture, It breaks the twins apart when they have the chance to live together. That's what exactly the racists like you did to the Australian society.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:59am:

Your understanding is correct.

It doesn't matter what's their relationship. when the guy says "If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china", he is a obvious racist.

To be honest, your example exactly shows the absurdity of racism.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:48am:

The word according to bowen;

Two identical twins are born in Australia. At the age of 18 ones goes to live in china. He comes home to Australia 20 years latter. He now speaks Chinese and lives like a chinaman. The brother who stayed in Australia say "your back in Australia now, live like an Australian. If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china".

According to Bowen, this man is a racist. Yes, he is being racist... against his identical twin brother.

This is what happens when the radical left get a hold of the dictionary. All words lose all meaning. "Racism", "sexism", "misogyny", "rights"... They all get chucked around so freely that they lose all meaning.

If you speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are a racist. If you don't speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are also a racist. Unless you are loopy left you are racist by default.

A man cannot be racist against his identical twin brother by telling him he should go back to speaking in his native language. FFS, you are using the word racist as an attack against anyone who has a different opinion.

You are a chinaman whose English is about equivalent to that of an 8 year old. How about you don't tell native English speakers the meaning of their own words.

China man bad to animals. China man eat many animal . Dog, cat, grasshopper, snake etc etc. He even take small fish. He put bear in cage so he can take it's bile. He eat tiger because it make china mans small penis bigger. He bad to nature and animal.

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Reply #182 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:57pm

If you can not understand what wikipedia said. You can read this. When you ask people of other culture leave Australia, you are doing racial discrimination.

http://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/know-your-rights-racial-discrimination-and-vilification
What can I do to prevent discrimination?

Everyone has a role to play to help ensure that people from diverse cultures and backgrounds have the same opportunities as other Australians to participate in the political, economic and social life of our communities by letting us know what is happening.

The Commission undertakes a wide range of activities to build awareness about the rights and responsibilities that individuals and organisations have under the Racial Discrimination Act.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:40pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:31pm:

What you did is only sophistry. From what you said, you are a racist. And your example shows a racist too.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Why not you read the definition of "race" by wikipedia?

Because the disrespect to different culture, It breaks the twins apart when they have the chance to live together. That's what exactly the racists like you did to the Australian society.

You keep calling me a racist because you are changing the word to mean something that it is not.

Fine. Your a pedophile.

Don't get offended. I'm allowed to call you a pedophile. From Wikipedia;

"The word comes from the Greek: παῖς (paîs), meaning "child", and φιλία (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship"

Don't you see how your are a pedophile? Look;

*You just had a baby.
*You love your baby.
*Therefore you love children
*therefore you are a pedophile.

Don't argue. Wikipedia proves you are a pedophile.

Of course any English speaker would know that not all parents are pedophiles just because they love their children. But if we want to just get down to the most basic and broad sense of the word... then yeah they are.

That's the logic you are using to call me a racist. In fact, you have broadened the word so far beyond its actual meaning that even you yourself are a racist by your definition.

You want to talk about human rights? Well you don't have the right to accuse someone of something like racism when they are not. You want to be shown respect? Then stop be so disrespectful by calling people racist just because they don't agree with your vision of society. Do you want to be called a pedophile? No? Then stop calling me a racist by mixing culture and race into one thing.

No. It is showing how quoting a Wikipedia source by braking down the word to its most basic form, and then applying that basic form to everything that it remotely resembles, is pointless.

That's what you are doing with your "racism" accusations. Wikipedia gives a broad outline of the elements of racism; one of those words happens to be culture, so you now assume that all commentary of culture is a form of racism to justify your baseless accusations.

You can't play this both ways. If the Wikipedia quote of racism gives you permission to falsely accusing people of being racist, then you will also have to accept the Wikipedia quote that allows false accusations of Pedophilia. But then again, maybe you can try to play this both ways. You have so far on every issue that has been discussed so far.

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Reply #183 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:08pm

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Don't you eat animal? What's the difference between pig, sheep, cow, dog and cats? It's only different cultures.

Muslims do not eat pig, Indian do not eat cow. Can Indian blame you eating beefsteak as insult to their god?

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Why not you read the definition of "race" by wikipedia?

Because the disrespect to different culture, It breaks the twins apart when they have the chance to live together. That's what exactly the racists like you did to the Australian society.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:59am:

Your understanding is correct.

It doesn't matter what's their relationship. when the guy says "If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china", he is a obvious racist.

To be honest, your example exactly shows the absurdity of racism.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:48am:

The word according to bowen;

Two identical twins are born in Australia. At the age of 18 ones goes to live in china. He comes home to Australia 20 years latter. He now speaks Chinese and lives like a chinaman. The brother who stayed in Australia say "your back in Australia now, live like an Australian. If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china".

According to Bowen, this man is a racist. Yes, he is being racist... against his identical twin brother.

This is what happens when the radical left get a hold of the dictionary. All words lose all meaning. "Racism", "sexism", "misogyny", "rights"... They all get chucked around so freely that they lose all meaning.

If you speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are a racist. If you don't speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are also a racist. Unless you are loopy left you are racist by default.

A man cannot be racist against his identical twin brother by telling him he should go back to speaking in his native language. FFS, you are using the word racist as an attack against anyone who has a different opinion.

You are a chinaman whose English is about equivalent to that of an 8 year old. How about you don't tell native English speakers the meaning of their own words.

China man bad to animals. China man eat many animal . Dog, cat, grasshopper, snake etc etc. He even take small fish. He put bear in cage so he can take it's bile. He eat tiger because it make china mans small penis bigger. He bad to nature and animal.

Your people cruel to animal. You keep animal in cage and don't feed it properly. You kill rare animmal and buy endangered animal from other country. My aussie people kill animal quick and clean. Your people have no reapect for animals life. You China government even cruel to it's people. People who oppose government get put in jail or killed. I glad I'm aussie and not China man. I like my big thick aussie penis.

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Reply #184 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:35pm

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:57pm:

If you can not understand what wikipedia said. You can read this. When you ask people of other culture leave Australia, you are doing racial discrimination.

http://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/know-your-rights-racial-discrimination-and-vilification
What can I do to prevent discrimination?

Everyone has a role to play to help ensure that people from diverse cultures and backgrounds have the same opportunities as other Australians

to participate

in the political, economic and social life of our communities by letting us know what is happening.

The Commission undertakes a wide range of activities to build awareness about the rights and responsibilities that individuals and organisations have under the Racial Discrimination Act.

Don't want to participate in Australian society? Go back to where you came from!

It's sad that a plan that was conceived to stop immigrants from being disadvantaged is now being used by new immigrants as a cover to not integrate. Likewise, the laws against racism that were once to stop people being persecuted because of their racial background are now being used by people like you to undermine Australian culture under the protection of "If you don't let me do whatever I want you are racist".

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Reply #185 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:37pm

Oh, Isn't it killing that killing animal quick and clean? It's so hypocritical.

When you kill an animal, you take everything of the animal. Even you kill it quick and clean, you are not kind to it. You are still the butcher.

Don't Australia put animal in cage? There are so many chicken farms in Australia. Why not the farmers let the chickens free to go? Because we will eat them.

Killing rare animals is criminal in China too. Every country have criminals.

Yes, the politics of China is autocratic. That's why I came to Australia. However, you forget the communism is a western culture, started from German. Communists killed many traditional Chinese at mainland China. The Chinese living in Taiwan who keep more tradition achieved democracy already.

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:08pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Don't you eat animal? What's the difference between pig, sheep, cow, dog and cats? It's only different cultures.

Muslims do not eat pig, Indian do not eat cow. Can Indian blame you eating beefsteak as insult to their god?

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Why not you read the definition of "race" by wikipedia?

Because the disrespect to different culture, It breaks the twins apart when they have the chance to live together. That's what exactly the racists like you did to the Australian society.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:59am:

Your understanding is correct.

It doesn't matter what's their relationship. when the guy says "If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china", he is a obvious racist.

To be honest, your example exactly shows the absurdity of racism.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:48am:

The word according to bowen;

Two identical twins are born in Australia. At the age of 18 ones goes to live in china. He comes home to Australia 20 years latter. He now speaks Chinese and lives like a chinaman. The brother who stayed in Australia say "your back in Australia now, live like an Australian. If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china".

According to Bowen, this man is a racist. Yes, he is being racist... against his identical twin brother.

This is what happens when the radical left get a hold of the dictionary. All words lose all meaning. "Racism", "sexism", "misogyny", "rights"... They all get chucked around so freely that they lose all meaning.

If you speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are a racist. If you don't speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are also a racist. Unless you are loopy left you are racist by default.

A man cannot be racist against his identical twin brother by telling him he should go back to speaking in his native language. FFS, you are using the word racist as an attack against anyone who has a different opinion.

You are a chinaman whose English is about equivalent to that of an 8 year old. How about you don't tell native English speakers the meaning of their own words.

China man bad to animals. China man eat many animal . Dog, cat, grasshopper, snake etc etc. He even take small fish. He put bear in cage so he can take it's bile. He eat tiger because it make china mans small penis bigger. He bad to nature and animal.

Your people cruel to animal. You keep animal in cage and don't feed it properly. You kill rare animmal and buy endangered animal from other country. My aussie people kill animal quick and clean. Your people have no reapect for animals life. You China government even cruel to it's people. People who oppose government get put in jail or killed. I glad I'm aussie and not China man. I like my big thick aussie penis.

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Reply #186 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:40pm

I told so many words here is to tell you. I have the same rights as you to participate in the political, economic and social life of the communities. Actually the action that I post here is a type of participation to Australian community. If you can not accept my participation, you may go back to UK.

Australia is a multicultural society. Every official documents show this point. But you only refuse to recognize. It's your own problem. And you are making Australian society apart.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:35pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:57pm:

If you can not understand what wikipedia said. You can read this. When you ask people of other culture leave Australia, you are doing racial discrimination.

http://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/know-your-rights-racial-discrimination-and-vilification
What can I do to prevent discrimination?

Everyone has a role to play to help ensure that people from diverse cultures and backgrounds have the same opportunities as other Australians

to participate

in the political, economic and social life of our communities by letting us know what is happening.

The Commission undertakes a wide range of activities to build awareness about the rights and responsibilities that individuals and organisations have under the Racial Discrimination Act.

Don't want to participate in Australian society? Go back to where you came from!

It's sad that a plan that was conceived to stop immigrants from being disadvantaged is now being used by new immigrants as a cover to not integrate. Likewise, the laws against racism that were once to stop people being persecuted because of their racial background are now being used by people like you to undermine Australian culture under the protection of "If you don't let me do whatever I want you are racist".

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Reply #187 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:03pm

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:40pm:

I told so many words here is to tell you. I have the same rights as you to participate in the political, economic and social life of the communities. Actually the action that I post here is a type of participation to Australian community. If you can not accept my participation, you may go back to UK.

Australia is a multicultural society. Every official documents show this point. But you only refuse to recognize. It's your own problem. And you are making Australian society apart.

But you don't understand what multicultural means. When the Europeans came out here after the war, they didn't stop being Italian, Greek, British, etc. But overall they became Australian. Sure they kept their big families, and their music, and their food, and their clothing style. But they also learnt English and integrated into Australian culture. Not perfectly, and in some case many retreated into ethnic communities, but it was for the most part a much smoother process. After all, many of them were just happy to be here and wanted to make a new life for themselves.

Fast forward to today. Now we have Asians, Africans, and Arabs, all trying to change Australian from the inside out. They are not thankful to be here, nor do they respect our way of doing things. (Try get off a train in some suburbs of Sydney. The Chinese will push you back through the door in their rush to get in.) They expect us to change our ways to accommodate them (you yourself want us to learn Chinese and eat dog, while many Arabs want us to cover our women and grow a beard) and have no respect for our culture (you won't even acknowledge that Australian culture exist. You just see it as English as all whites are the same in your eyes) or laws (Muslims who think they run the joint).

You hide behind multiculturalism as an excuse to implant a small piece of china right into Australia and rebadge it as "Australian". Anyone who doesn't agree gets called a racist. bugger that!

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Reply #188 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:21pm

Don't you think I learn English? I won't speak Chinese to you because you do not understand Chinese. However, to a Chinese, of course I speak Chinese. It's same for Italian, Greeks... Do you know what is community languages in Australia?

I joined the Australian community. Only racists like you believe Australia culture is only your culture.

You even don't understand what is multiculturalism. Then you claim the Muslim racists who are essential similar to you as the result of multiculturalism.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:03pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:40pm:

I told so many words here is to tell you. I have the same rights as you to participate in the political, economic and social life of the communities. Actually the action that I post here is a type of participation to Australian community. If you can not accept my participation, you may go back to UK.

Australia is a multicultural society. Every official documents show this point. But you only refuse to recognize. It's your own problem. And you are making Australian society apart.

But you don't understand what multicultural means. When the Europeans came out here after the war, they didn't stop being Italian, Greek, British, etc. But overall they became Australian. Sure they kept their big families, and their music, and their food, and their clothing style. But they also learnt English and integrated into Australian culture. Not perfectly, and in some case many retreated into ethnic communities, but it was for the most part a much smoother process. After all, many of them were just happy to be here and wanted to make a new life for themselves.

Fast forward to today. Now we have Asians, Africans, and Arabs, all trying to change Australian from the inside out. They are not thankful to be here, nor do they respect our way of doing things. (Try get off a train in some suburbs of Sydney. The Chinese will push you back through the door in their rush to get in.) They expect us to change our ways to accommodate them (you yourself want us to learn Chinese and eat dog, while many Arabs want us to cover our women and grow a beard) and have no respect for our culture (you won't even acknowledge that Australian culture exist. You just see it as English as all whites are the same in your eyes) or laws (Muslims who think they run the joint).

You hide behind multiculturalism as an excuse to implant a small piece of china right into Australia and rebadge it as "Australian". Anyone who doesn't agree gets called a racist. bugger that!

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Reply #189 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:43pm

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Don't you think I learn English? I won't speak Chinese to you because you do not understand Chinese. However, to a Chinese, of course I speak Chinese. It's same for Italian, Greeks... Do you know what is community languages in Australia?

I joined the Australian community. Only racists like you believe Australia culture is only your culture.

You even don't understand what is multiculturalism. Then you claim the Muslim racists who are essential similar to you as the result of multiculturalism.

*The Muslim racist come from their Islamic nations and then refuse to integrate into Australian communities. They demand respect for their culture and try to change laws to suit themselves.
*The Chinese racist like you come from China and then refuse to integrate into Australian communities. They demand respect for their culture and try to change laws to suit themselves.

I didn't go to the middle east and expect them to accept Australian ways. I didn't go to China and expect them to accept Australian ways. You like the Muslims came to Australia; set up your own little miniature version of your home nation; Showed no respect for the people who built this country and made it something that you wanted to come to in the first place; and then call everyone racist if they don't change their ways to make you new arrivals happy. No, the only person like the Muslim racist is you!

(It is very telling that you call these Muslims racist. The reason these Muslims don't fit into a nation like Australia is because their culture is incompatible with Australian Culture. But according to you... so what? According to you all cultures must be respected, even though all these cultures clash when they are put together. To point that out or to tell them to leave is, according to you, racist. Yet here you are, saying the more radical Muslims can not stay because they don't fit in. Your multicultural tolerance seems to be one based on convenience. When;

Islamic culture doesn't tolerate you, you say that culture should go back to the middle east.
When Australian Culture doesn't tolerate you, you say it should go back to England, even though it started here.

By your definition of racism, you can be very racist when it suits you.)

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Reply #190 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:55pm

Only the people who can not live with other cultures are racists like you.

I can live with different cultures. So I am not a racist. There are different Muslims. The Muslims who can live with other cultures are not racists.

Only the Muslims who attempt to force others become Muslim and want to practice Islam law in Australia are racists. They are same to you essentially. Both you and them want to force others follow your own culture.

To keep one's culture is not racism. To force others to follow one's own culture is racism. Do you understand?

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:43pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Don't you think I learn English? I won't speak Chinese to you because you do not understand Chinese. However, to a Chinese, of course I speak Chinese. It's same for Italian, Greeks... Do you know what is community languages in Australia?

I joined the Australian community. Only racists like you believe Australia culture is only your culture.

You even don't understand what is multiculturalism. Then you claim the Muslim racists who are essential similar to you as the result of multiculturalism.

*The Muslim racist come from their Islamic nations and then refuse to integrate into Australian communities. They demand respect for their culture and try to change laws to suit themselves.
*The Chinese racist like you come from China and then refuse to integrate into Australian communities. They demand respect for their culture and try to change laws to suit themselves.

I didn't go to the middle east and expect them to accept Australian ways. I didn't go to China and expect them to accept Australian ways. You like the Muslims came to Australia; set up your own little miniature version of your home nation; Showed no respect for the people who built this country and made it something that you wanted to come to in the first place; and then call everyone racist if they don't change their ways to make you new arrivals happy. No, the only person like the Muslim racist is you!

(It is very telling that you call these Muslims racist. The reason these Muslims don't fit into a nation like Australia is because their culture is incompatible with Australian Culture. But according to you... so what? According to you all cultures must be respected, even though all these cultures clash when they are put together. To point that out or to tell them to leave is, according to you, racist. Yet here you are, saying the more radical Muslims can not stay because they don't fit in. Your multicultural tolerance seems to be one based on convenience. When;

Islamic culture doesn't tolerate you, you say that culture should go back to the middle east.
When Australian Culture doesn't tolerate you, you say it should go back to England, even though it started here.

By your definition of racism, you can be very racist when it suits you.)

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Reply #191 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 4:13pm

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 3:55pm:

Only the people who can not live with other cultures are racists like you.

I can live with different cultures. So I am not a racist. There are different Muslims. The Muslims who can live with other cultures are not racists.

Only the Muslims who attempt to force others become Muslim and want to practice Islam law in Australia are racists. They are same to you essentially. Both you and them want to force others follow your own culture.

You are more blind than spot when it comes to self reflection. Everything you say is inconsistent, illogical, and hypocritical.

Muslims do not have a right to tell Australian's how to live. Australians do have a right to tell Muslims how to live... in our country! They want to come here, they have to live by our rules. Same for the Chinese or anyone else who wants to come to this country. If you don't want to live like us, don't come here.

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Only the Muslims who attempt to force others become Muslim and want to practice Islam law in Australia are racists.

That is a part of their culture! They don't do it just for the fun of it. It is ingrained into them. If you don't accept them then by your own definition you are a racist. You can't just pick and chose what cultures you want to be tolerant of and then call anyone who has different choices a racist.

Muslims wanting to force others to become Muslim is no different then you forcing people to like multiculturalism. It is obvious that "multiculturalism" is your religion and you will tell everyone who doesn't like it to leave the country.

*Many of these Muslims were born overseas. They came to Australia. They tell people born here that if they don't like Islam they should leave their home country.
*You were born in China. You come to Australia. You tell people born here that if they don't like Multiculturalism they should leave their home country.

You're no smacking different. Islam & Multiculturalism.... The religions of "peace". Accept them, or get the bugger out.

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Reply #192 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 4:19pm

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:37pm:

Oh, Isn't it killing that killing animal quick and clean? It's so hypocritical.

When you kill an animal, you take everything of the animal. Even you kill it quick and clean, you are not kind to it. You are still the butcher.

Don't Australia put animal in cage? There are so many chicken farms in Australia. Why not the farmers let the chickens free to go? Because we will eat them.

Killing rare animals is criminal in China too. Every country have criminals.

Yes, the politics of China is autocratic. That's why I came to Australia. However, you forget the communism is a western culture, started from German. Communists killed many traditional Chinese at mainland China. The Chinese living in Taiwan who keep more tradition achieved democracy already.

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:08pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Don't you eat animal? What's the difference between pig, sheep, cow, dog and cats? It's only different cultures.

Muslims do not eat pig, Indian do not eat cow. Can Indian blame you eating beefsteak as insult to their god?

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Why not you read the definition of "race" by wikipedia?

Because the disrespect to different culture, It breaks the twins apart when they have the chance to live together. That's what exactly the racists like you did to the Australian society.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:59am:

Your understanding is correct.

It doesn't matter what's their relationship. when the guy says "If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china", he is a obvious racist.

To be honest, your example exactly shows the absurdity of racism.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:48am:

The word according to bowen;

Two identical twins are born in Australia. At the age of 18 ones goes to live in china. He comes home to Australia 20 years latter. He now speaks Chinese and lives like a chinaman. The brother who stayed in Australia say "your back in Australia now, live like an Australian. If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china".

According to Bowen, this man is a racist. Yes, he is being racist... against his identical twin brother.

This is what happens when the radical left get a hold of the dictionary. All words lose all meaning. "Racism", "sexism", "misogyny", "rights"... They all get chucked around so freely that they lose all meaning.

If you speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are a racist. If you don't speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are also a racist. Unless you are loopy left you are racist by default.

A man cannot be racist against his identical twin brother by telling him he should go back to speaking in his native language. FFS, you are using the word racist as an attack against anyone who has a different opinion.

You are a chinaman whose English is about equivalent to that of an 8 year old. How about you don't tell native English speakers the meaning of their own words.

China man bad to animals. China man eat many animal . Dog, cat, grasshopper, snake etc etc. He even take small fish. He put bear in cage so he can take it's bile. He eat tiger because it make china mans small penis bigger. He bad to nature and animal.

Your people cruel to animal. You keep animal in cage and don't feed it properly. You kill rare animmal and buy endangered animal from other country. My aussie people kill animal quick and clean. Your people have no reapect for animals life. You China government even cruel to it's people. People who oppose government get put in jail or killed. I glad I'm aussie and not China man. I like my big thick aussie penis.

So now German man the blame for China man killing his own people. Many China man and woman very poor. They grow what they eat. China man goverment can't even feed many China man and woman. Yet many China man very rich . Australian white man government feeds everybody. That's why you come here. To live off the white man because he make better country. You China parasite and live off white mans work. But you still hate white man. You should being saying thank you to aussie white man and women. They feed you and look after you. Their farms feed the China man in australia.

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Reply #193 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 4:51pm

These words already show that you are a racist. Australian is including Muslim Australian. No one have the right to force others change their live neither Muslims nor you.

And you are not the representative of all Australian. You can only stand for yourself.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 4:13pm:

Muslims do not have a right to tell Australian's how to live. Australians do have a right to tell Muslims how to live

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Reply #194 - Jun 1^st, 2013 at 4:54pm

China have a bad government because of communism a western culture. The problems of the government of China is not the reason you force Chinese Australian change their culture.

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 4:19pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:37pm:

Oh, Isn't it killing that killing animal quick and clean? It's so hypocritical.

When you kill an animal, you take everything of the animal. Even you kill it quick and clean, you are not kind to it. You are still the butcher.

Don't Australia put animal in cage? There are so many chicken farms in Australia. Why not the farmers let the chickens free to go? Because we will eat them.

Killing rare animals is criminal in China too. Every country have criminals.

Yes, the politics of China is autocratic. That's why I came to Australia. However, you forget the communism is a western culture, started from German. Communists killed many traditional Chinese at mainland China. The Chinese living in Taiwan who keep more tradition achieved democracy already.

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 2:08pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:

Don't you eat animal? What's the difference between pig, sheep, cow, dog and cats? It's only different cultures.

Muslims do not eat pig, Indian do not eat cow. Can Indian blame you eating beefsteak as insult to their god?

Big Dave wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Why not you read the definition of "race" by wikipedia?

Because the disrespect to different culture, It breaks the twins apart when they have the chance to live together. That's what exactly the racists like you did to the Australian society.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Bowen wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:59am:

Your understanding is correct.

It doesn't matter what's their relationship. when the guy says "If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china", he is a obvious racist.

To be honest, your example exactly shows the absurdity of racism.

Quantum wrote on Jun 1^st, 2013 at 11:48am:

The word according to bowen;

Two identical twins are born in Australia. At the age of 18 ones goes to live in china. He comes home to Australia 20 years latter. He now speaks Chinese and lives like a chinaman. The brother who stayed in Australia say "your back in Australia now, live like an Australian. If you wanted to keep speaking Chinese you should have stayed in china".

According to Bowen, this man is a racist. Yes, he is being racist... against his identical twin brother.

This is what happens when the radical left get a hold of the dictionary. All words lose all meaning. "Racism", "sexism", "misogyny", "rights"... They all get chucked around so freely that they lose all meaning.

If you speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are a racist. If you don't speak to someone irrespective of their race, you are also a racist. Unless you are loopy left you are racist by default.

A man cannot be racist against his identical twin brother by telling him he should go back to speaking in his native language. FFS, you are using the word racist as an attack against anyone who has a different opinion.

You are a chinaman whose English is about equivalent to that of an 8 year old. How about you don't tell native English speakers the meaning of their own words.

China man bad to animals. China man eat many animal . Dog, cat, grasshopper, snake etc etc. He even take small fish. He put bear in cage so he can take it's bile. He eat tiger because it make china mans small penis bigger. He bad to nature and animal.

Your people cruel to animal. You keep animal in cage and don't feed it properly. You kill rare animmal and buy endangered animal from other country. My aussie people kill animal quick and clean. Your people have no reapect for animals life. You China government even cruel to it's people. People who oppose government get put in jail or killed. I glad I'm aussie and not China man. I like my big thick aussie penis.

So now German man the blame for China man killing his own people. Many China man and woman very poor. They grow what they eat. China man goverment can't even feed many China man and woman. Yet many China man very rich . Australian white man government feeds everybody. That's why you come here. To live off the white man because he make better country. You China parasite and live off white mans work. But you still hate white man. You should being saying thank you to aussie white man and women. They feed you and look after you. Their farms feed the China man in australia.

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