|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 2:50pm:


You did state the hadith is a keystone to interpreting the Quran.

The basic law of Saudi Arabia which is where Islam originated and muslims do face Mecca when praying states the hadith is part of the constitution in chapter 1 article 1.
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As you said the hadith is a keystone to interpreting the Quran.

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 2:50pm:



HB,

Does this also mean that worldwide, moslem 'extremists' will stop quoting the [Koran and the ] Hadith as an authority, to justify their violent atrocities, committed in the name of ISLAM and 'Allah's cause' ?






http://thereligionofpeace.com/







"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026

"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i




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"The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.053


"The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.054


"The Prophet said, "Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.072


"I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The example of a Mujahid [religious fighter] in Allah's Cause-- and Allah knows better who really strives in His Cause----is like a person who fasts and prays continuously. Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.046

i.e. Muhammad is reported as saying that for a moslem, religious fighting, is the same as a religious devotion.
Jihad [religious fighting], is as if a muslim 'fasts and prays continuously'.
And that Allah guarantees that a Mujahid [religious fighter] will enter Paradise, if he is killed.i



"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

[quote author=Baronvonrort link=1367902215/1#1 ]
As you said the hadith is a keystone to interpreting the Quran. [/quote]

Hadiths.  There are more than one.

They have been considered a keystone.  What though, if the interpretation of a particular issue is based on one which is proven to be false?   What does that do to the interpretation?  Render it false?

Potentially, this has considerable potential to render a great many judgements invalid, with considerable roll on effect.

This rather suggests that Islam has facilities for re-interpretation of Mohammed's teachings.

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2013 at 7:42pm:



As the project is based in Ankara University in Turkey that is extremely unlikely.

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2013 at 12:45pm:


Allah does demand 20% of all war booty, why would anyone worship a god that demands 20% of all war booty?
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Convert or die?
www.quran.com/9/5

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Those hadeeth even mention how muslims had sex (raped?) with those captives.

Sex slaves are halal for muslim men,Mohammad had a coptic christian sex slave called Maria-
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Brian Ross wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 12:13am:


What makes you think Mohammad was not a prophet pretender?

Ask a muslim about how Mohammad indulged in rape pillage and plunder of the Jewish tribes which resulted in him gaining Juwairiya and Safiyya as wives, listen to them defend Mohammad's methods of finding wives.

Mecca was once a city of religious tolerance with over 360 gods worshipped at the Kaaba before Mohammad imposed the first religious dictatorship and outlawed all other gods except for his imaginary friend in the sky called allah.
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The Quran is just as absurd,once upon a time Allah sent flocks of birds armed with stones to help the muslims in battles, why does Allah no longer send flocks of birds armed with stones to defend muslims?
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This is an important move by the Turkish scholars and a courageous one. As FD said, much of the brutality practiced in the name of Islam stems from ahadith. Stoning is the most extreme practice supported by hadith that contradicts the Quran that I am aware of. They should probably start with that one. That being said, this won't go down very well with the extremists; I predict an outpouring of Rashdie-esque fatwas in the near future (if it hasn't started already).