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Jan 16th, 2011 at 9:05pm
 
Abu, why is the urine of Bedouin camels better?

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Principles of Fiqh » Jurisprudence and Islamic Rulings » Customs and traditions » Medicine and medical treatments

I hope that you can provide me with a scientific answer – if such knowledge is available – about the saheeh hadeeth about drinking camel’s urine. May Allaah reward you.

Praise be to Allaah.

The hadeeth referred to by the questioner is a saheeh hadeeth, in which it says that some people came to Madeenah and fell sick. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told them to drink the milk and urine of camels, and they recovered and grew fat. In the story it also says that they apostatized and killed the camel-herder, then the Muslims caught them and executed them. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2855) and Muslim (1671).

With regard to the health benefits of drinking the milk and urine of camels, they are many, and they are well known to the earlier generations of medical science and they have been proven by modern scientific research.

Ibn al-Qayyim said:

The author of al-Qanoon (the Canon) – i.e. the doctor Ibn Seena (Avicenna) – said:

The most beneficial of urine is the urine of Bedouin camels which are called najeeb. End quote.

Zaad al-Ma’aad (4/47, 48).

In the Emirati newspaper al-Ittihaad (issue no. 11172, Sunday 6 Muharram 1427 AH/5 February 2006) it says:

One of the most important things for which camels are raised is their milk, which is efficacious in treating many illnesses, including hepatitis, and the digestive system in general, various types of cancer and other diseases.

In an article by Dr Ahlaam al-‘Awadi, which was published in al-Da’wah magazine, issue no. 1938, 25 Safar 1425 AH/15 April 2004 CE, about the diseases which can be treated with camel’s milk, as proven by experience, it says that there are many benefits in camel’s milk. There follows some of what was said in the article by Dr. Ahlaam:

Camel’s urine is efficacious in the treatment of skin diseases such as ringworm, tinea and abscesses, sores that may appear on the body and hair, and dry and wet ulcers. Camel’s urine brings the secondary benefits of making the hair lustrous and thick, and removing dandruff from the scalp. Camel’s milk is also beneficial in treating hepatitis, even if it has reached an advanced stage where medicine is unable to treat it. End quote.

In the al-Jazeerah al-Sa’oodiyyah newspaper (issue no. 10132, Rabee’ al-Awwal 1421 AH) there is a quotation from the book Al-Ibl Asraar wa i’jaaz (The camel: secrets and wonders) by Darmaan ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal Darmaan and Sanad ibn Mutlaq al-Subay’i:

As for camel’s urine, the book suggests that it has numerous uses which are beneficial for man. This is indicated by the Prophetic texts and confirmed by modern science … Scientific experiments have proven that camel’s urine has a lethal effect on the germs that cause many diseases.

Among the uses of camel’s urine, many women use it to wash their hair, to make it longer, and to make it lighter and more lustrous. Camel’s urine is also efficacious in the treatment of swelling of the liver and other diseases such as abscesses, sores that appear on the body and toothache, and for washing eyes. End quote.

Prof. Dr. ‘Abd al-Fattaah Mahmoud Idrees says: With regard to the benefits of camel’s urine in treating disease, Ibn Seena said in his Qanoon: The most beneficial of urine is the urine of the Bedouin camels known as najeeb. Camel’s urine is beneficial in treating al-hazaaz, and it was said that al-hazzaz is a pain in the heart caused by anger and so on. Camel’s urine, especially the urine of a young she-camel – is used as a cleansing substance to wash wounds and sores, to make the hair grow, to strengthen and thicken it and to prevent it falling out, and it is used to treat diseases of the scalp and dandruff. In a Master’s thesis by an engineer in applied chemistry, Muhammad Awhaaj Muhammad, that was submitted to the faculty of applied chemistry in the al-Jazeerah university in Sudan, and approved by the Dean of science and postgraduate studies in the university in November 1998 CE, entitled A Study of the Chemical Composition and Some Medical Uses of the Urine of Arabian Camels, Muhammad Awhaaj says:

Laboratory tests indicate that camel’s urine contains high levels of potassium, albuminous proteins, and small amounts of uric acid, sodium and creatine.

In this study, he explained that what prompted him to study the medicinal properties of camel’s urine was what he had seen of some tribesmen drinking this urine whenever they suffered digestion problems. He sought the help of some doctors in studying camel’s urine. They brought a number of patients and prescribed this urine for them, for a period of two months. Their bodies recovered from what they had been suffering from, which proves the efficacy of camel’s urine in treating some diseases of the digestive system.

It also proves that this urine is useful in preventing hair loss. He says:
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freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2011 at 9:05pm:
Abu, why is the urine of Bedouin camels better?

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/83423

Principles of Fiqh » Jurisprudence and Islamic Rulings » Customs and traditions » Medicine and medical treatments


Camel’s urine is efficacious in the treatment of skin diseases such as ringworm, tinea and abscesses, sores that may appear on the body and hair, and dry and wet ulcers. Camel’s urine brings the secondary benefits of making the hair lustrous and thick, and removing dandruff from the scalp. Camel’s milk is also beneficial in treating hepatitis, even if it has reached an advanced stage where medicine is unable to treat it. End quote.

In the al-Jazeerah al-Sa’oodiyyah newspaper (issue no. 10132, Rabee’ al-Awwal 1421 AH) there is a quotation from the book Al-Ibl Asraar wa i’jaaz (The camel: secrets and wonders) by Darmaan ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal Darmaan and Sanad ibn Mutlaq al-Subay’i:

As for camel’s urine, the book suggests that it has numerous uses which are beneficial for man. This is indicated by the Prophetic texts and confirmed by modern science … Scientific experiments have proven that camel’s urine has a lethal effect on the germs that cause many diseases.

Among the uses of camel’s urine, many women use it to wash their hair, to make it longer, and to make it lighter and more lustrous. Camel’s urine is also efficacious in the treatment of swelling of the liver and other diseases such as abscesses, sores that appear on the body and toothache, and for washing eyes. End quote.

It also proves that this urine is useful in preventing hair loss. He says:


Outstanding!!!
I cannot wait to see bottles of camel pee on the shelves in Woolies where Pantene used to sit, knowing of course that Pantene doesn't work.
And I am sure that Abu has had much success in this valued natural product clearing up his worms and headlice. Grin
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Reply #2 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 3:46pm
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 1:55pm:
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Outstanding!!!
I cannot wait to see bottles of camel pee on the shelves in Woolies where Pantene used to sit, knowing of course that Pantene doesn't work.
And I am sure that Abu has had much success in this valued natural product clearing up his worms and headlice. Grin





What is even better, is that camel urine must be already halal [but only if it comes from Arabian camels, of course].
As it has already been given the endorsement of Mohammed, within ISLAMIC texts.


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Reply #3 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 4:24pm
 
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Abu, why is the urine of Bedouin camels better?


Never said it was. Perhaps you're mistaking me with Ibn Sina? Yes I know the resemblance is striking, but I assure you, I am not he.
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Reply #4 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 8:41pm
 
I realise you did not write that. I thought maybe you could shed some light on it. Especially seeing as you go to such lengths to promote the contributions of Islam to science.
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Reply #5 - Jan 18th, 2011 at 12:27pm
 
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Especially seeing as you go to such lengths to promote the contributions of Islam to science.


Right... because one Islamic scientist said that bedouin camel's urine is medicinally the most useful, therefore all Islamic contributions to science must be null and void.

Are you for real fd?

Btw, Ibin Sina is one of the most respected of the Islamic scientists in the Western world. In fact his medical encyclopaedia, the Canon of Medicine (al-Qanun fit-Tibb) was used as a standard medical textbook in Europe right up until the early 19th. century, ~800 years after he wrote it.
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Reply #6 - Jan 18th, 2011 at 2:37pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 18th, 2011 at 12:27pm:
Ibin Sina is one of the most respected of the Islamic scientists in the Western world.


They stopped using his book over 100 years ago and how far has medicine advanced in the last 20-50-100 years?
They threw out all the geology textbooks in 1967 when plate tectonics was accepted along with continental drift Wegner came up with the idea in 1911 yet was ridiculed because his mechanism for continental drift was wrong.
If it is not correct science throws it out.

Ibn Sina also known as Avicenna which is his Latin name so would it be considered unilsamic for a muslim to use a non Islamic name when they have an arabic name?

In his autobiography under the chapter, The After Life.
The afterlife is a notion received from religious teaching there is no way of establishing its truth save by the way of religious dogma and the acceptance of the prophets report as true.
He rejected unreservedly the resurrection of the body,and with it the literal acceptance of those passages in the quran about the afterlife.

Like Omar Khayyam Ibn Sina did not believe in the afterlife on that important point of Islamic doctrine he was unquestionably heretical.

During his lifetime  Ibn Sina was suspected of infidelity to Islam, after his death accusations of heresy,free thought and Atheism were repeatedly leveled against him.

He also wrote books on philosophy and his autobiography makes it very clear he did not believe in the afterlife in the chapter named "The after life"

I have also read Al Ghazali's "The incoherance of the philosophers" and "the revival of the religious science" which i think had a lot to do with Islam stagnating with science and mathematics.
Ibn Rushd wrote a book titled "the incoherance of the incoherance" as a response to Al Ghazali.

Razi (841-926)is anothe rmuslims like to claim as one of them he wrote about 200 books.
His most controversial book "On Prophecy" is being destroyed by muslims yet many copies will survive.
He said  "These billy goat prophets pretend to come with a message from god,all the while exhausting themselves in sprouting their lies,and imposing on the masses blind obedience"



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Reply #7 - Jan 18th, 2011 at 7:33pm
 
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They stopped using his book over 100 years ago and how far has medicine advanced in the last 20-50-100 years?


Yeh I'd like to see how many Western scientists will still have relevant scientific books in 100 years time, let alone 800.

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They threw out all the geology textbooks in 1967 when plate tectonics was accepted along with continental drift Wegner came up with the idea in 1911 yet was ridiculed because his mechanism for continental drift was wrong.
If it is not correct science throws it out.


I'd phrase it more like this. As time goes by, our perspective on things tends to get bigger. It doesn't necessarily mean our older way of looking at things was inherently wrong, it just means we didn't see the bigger picture as well. I'm positive that in 100-200 years time, our descendants are going to look back on things we hold almost sacred today (from our scientific knowledge) and laugh at how simplistic and inaccurate they are. Obviously knowledge is becoming more and more refined as time goes by, so that kind of thing is going to be less severe as we advance further. Just like the knowledge of the Greeks and Babylonians and Indians was much cruder in comparison to that of the Islamic civlisation.

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Ibn Sina also known as Avicenna which is his Latin name so would it be considered unilsamic for a muslim to use a non Islamic name when they have an arabic name?


Now I'm convinced you're a halfwit.

It's not his "Latin name", it's merely the Latin attempt to pronounce his name. My God you are simple.

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I have also read...


I suspect you have trouble even reading these posts, let alone an entire book.

My advice to you is that if you are indeed a sincere atheist, then the best you can do to help the cause of atheism is to refrain from speaking for it.
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Reply #8 - Jan 18th, 2011 at 9:49pm
 
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Right... because one Islamic scientist said that bedouin camel's urine is medicinally the most useful, therefore all Islamic contributions to science must be null and void.

Are you for real fd?


They are your words Abu, not mine. But I can understand why you would leap to that conclusion. You should not be so quick to judge Islam. I am asking you 'for real' why the urine of bedouin camels is better.

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It doesn't necessarily mean our older way of looking at things was inherently wrong


Perhaps you could demonstrate this point with an explanation of the camel urine thing.
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abu_rashid wrote on Jan 18th, 2011 at 7:33pm:
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They stopped using his book over 100 years ago and how far has medicine advanced in the last 20-50-100 years?


Yeh I'd like to see how many Western scientists will still have relevant scientific books in 100 years time, let alone 800.

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They threw out all the geology textbooks in 1967 when plate tectonics was accepted along with continental drift Wegner came up with the idea in 1911 yet was ridiculed because his mechanism for continental drift was wrong.
If it is not correct science throws it out.


I'd phrase it more like this. As time goes by, our perspective on things tends to get bigger. It doesn't necessarily mean our older way of looking at things was inherently wrong, it just means we didn't see the bigger picture as well. I'm positive that in 100-200 years time, our descendants are going to look back on things we hold almost sacred today (from our scientific knowledge) and laugh at how simplistic and inaccurate they are. Obviously knowledge is becoming more and more refined as time goes by, so that kind of thing is going to be less severe as we advance further. Just like the knowledge of the Greeks and Babylonians and Indians was much cruder in comparison to that of the Islamic civlisation.

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Ibn Sina also known as Avicenna which is his Latin name so would it be considered unilsamic for a muslim to use a non Islamic name when they have an arabic name?


Now I'm convinced you're a halfwit.

It's not his "Latin name", it's merely the Latin attempt to pronounce his name. My God you are simple.

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I have also read...


I suspect you have trouble even reading these posts, let alone an entire book.

My advice to you is that if you are indeed a sincere atheist, then the best you can do to help the cause of atheism is to refrain from speaking for it.


Sir Issac Newton's Laws of motion were first published on July 5 1687 and they are still used today.

Newton also contributed to mathematics where do you think the term Newtons came from in engineering.

Copernicus,Galileo,Newton,Darwin are just a few that stood the test of time.

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Reply #10 - Jan 19th, 2011 at 9:34am
 
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Sir Issac Newton's Laws of motion were first published on July 5 1687 and they are still used today.


2011 - 1687 = 324... Right, so in about another 500 years we can say he's achieved a similar feat to that of Ibn Sina. Thanks for making my point  Smiley

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That's great, don't believe I ever said he didn't.

Contrary to your delusional position, I am not here to say that any certain people haven't made contributions to science. I fully recognise most civilisations have all contributed, and that scientific knowledge is a human endeavour that all previous civilisations have contributed to, and that the better the scientist the bigger the shoulders of the giant he's standing on must've been.
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Reply #11 - Jan 19th, 2011 at 1:42pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 18th, 2011 at 7:33pm:
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They stopped using his book over 100 years ago and how far has medicine advanced in the last 20-50-100 years?



I'd phrase it more like this. As time goes by, our perspective on things tends to get bigger. It doesn't necessarily mean our older way of looking at things was inherently wrong, it just means we didn't see the bigger picture as well. I'm positive that in 100-200 years time, our descendants are going to look back on things we hold almost sacred today (from our scientific knowledge) and laugh at how simplistic and inaccurate they are. Obviously knowledge is becoming more and more refined as time goes by, so that kind of thing is going to be less severe as we advance further. Just like the knowledge of the Greeks and Babylonians and Indians was much cruder in comparison to that of the Islamic civlisation.


Gee, you're positive. In many cases, however, modern science seems to be confirming older ideas and beliefs, and in many cases they discovered modern concepts way before the West. The Hindus had knowledge of atoms and cells. Traditional Chinese medicine knew about the circulation of blood.

I disagree that Islamic civilization is more "refined" than the Vedas (Indians). Many things were swapped and shared between Islamic and Vedic civilizations, including the introduction in the West of Hindu-Arabic numerals. There are similarities between Ayurvedic and other traditional forms of medicine too.
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Reply #12 - Jan 19th, 2011 at 7:30pm
 
Do Muslims still drink camel urine?
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Reply #13 - Jan 19th, 2011 at 10:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 19th, 2011 at 7:30pm:
Do Muslims still drink camel urine?


Yes they still drink it it costs about $4 litre.

They say it will even cure HIV.

http://english.alshahid.net/archives/7418

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Reply #14 - Jan 20th, 2011 at 8:40pm
 
That's four times as much as milk. Why is it so expensive?
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