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Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West.
Reply #345 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:18am  
True Colours wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 10:59pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:32pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 9:40pm:
I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it. You are all going to do what you are told in the end anyway, no matter how absurd. The fact it is talked about so much on these boards just goes to show how much of a success the whole scam was.


Which bogeyman do you reject?

The terrorist attacks like 9/11?


From the country that brought us Hiroshima and napalming Vietnamese villagers comes 9/11:









Great video.

We need a proper new unbiased independent investigation.
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Reply #346 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:27am  
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The items you listed aren't mutually exclusive to Islam


What about individually?

Do you reject them?

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They are only issues because targetted propaganda with an agenda made them so.


So 9/11 would have been fine if the media hadn't made such a fuss about it?

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My original statement about not buying into Islamic boogeymen based on the hype surrounding the subject on this forum is accurate.


Thanks for clarifying. So you were talking about Islam?

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The disproportionate anti-Islam propaganda posts on here are the result of an agenda of a percentage of the users on this special interests board.


Should be balance it out with an equal measure of anti-whaling propganda, just to prove how unbiased we are?

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The reason being that people with an agenda against Islam are using every opportunity to churn out anti-Islamic propaganda.


Like the people who oppose for example the institutionalisation of rape in Islam? Is that the kind of agenda you are talking about?

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To make comparisons becomes abstract and open to semantics lawyering.


This is hardly mutually exclusive to Islam's apologists.

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50 years ago it was the Soviet 'Evil Empire', now it's Islamofascism.


And Nazism. Just another in a long line of imaginary threats eh?

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I will only respond to plain questions.


But will you answer them? Which bogeyman do you reject? Only the non-mutually exclusive ones?
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Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West.
Reply #347 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 3:41pm  
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 8:10pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 7:37pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 9:40pm:
I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it.


Islam is a political ideology as well as a religion, it governs in parts of the world with Islamic law,Take the supreme leader the Ayatollah Khamenei from the Islamic republic of Iran as one example.

Ultra right wing fascist ideologies dont tolerate critics and Iran for 1 has a long track record of executing critics, i am sure they like useful idiots like you sticking up for their fascist ideology.

Does your Islam boogeyman include Islamic rule or political Islam?

www.amnesty.org/en/region/iran







Who cares what Iranians do you smacking dummy. We are in Australia, let's worry about that. In the Middle East, they aren't doing much different now to what they have always done.

The mistake the West made was indentifying and engaging terrorists as agents of a religious entity when they were a fringe element in most Islamic societies. Now all we've done is fed and empowered them as a pan-Islamic movement, giving them a lot of credibility considering how the West has acted. Other than that they are irrelevant and should be ignored.

The subject comes up here far too often for it to be anything other than targeted hate propaganda, which is exactly what it is from most of the posters here. Dumb, armchair intellectual wannabes talking about things they have no smacking clue about. You don't realise how stupid you look to educated people.


I used Iran as an example of Political Islam,there are 7 countries that execute people for the crime of atheism, all 7 have Islam as the state religion, is this the Islam morally bankrupt idiots like you stick up for?
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/10/the-seven-countries-where-...
Do you consider this to be hate propaganda or the truth?

As for Islamic terror perhaps you should listen to Dr Wafa Sultan, a former alawite muslim from Syria,I would say she has a far better understanding of Islam than dopey leftist Islamic apologists like you, Wafa is an ex muslim.


We see you adopt the Islamic line of any justified criticism of Islam as targeted hate propaganda,Islam does not tolerate critics they execute them in many Islamic countries, are you OK with muslims making up propaganda to introduce sharia laws into Australia?

The moderator of the Islam section Abu Rashid was caught posting on the aussie muslims forum about the need to promote and make propaganda for sharia law, a thread on it here-
www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1301799276


You dont realise how stupid and morally bankrupt you look compared to educated people on this subject.
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Reply #348 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 6:47pm  
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 3:41pm:
As for Islamic terror perhaps you should listen to Dr Wafa Sultan, a former alawite muslim


She is not a Muslim, she is a Nusairi Alawite who celebrates Christmas.

Her arguments are facile. She claims that there are no secular education systems in the Islamic world - yet she herself was educated in a secular Arab university.

She claims that bombers are motivated by religion - even though comprehensive studies have shown that the main motivation of most terrorists is political rather than religious.

She doesn't ask why some oppressed people from all religions resort to terrorism - whether they be IRA catholics, Stern Gang Jews, Tamil Tiger Hindus, Sikhs, Tibetan Buddhist separatists or Marxist atheists.
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Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West.
Reply #349 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 9:46pm  
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Winston Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:24pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:04pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:01pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 8:21pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 7:20pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:32pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 9:40pm:
I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it. You are all going to do what you are told in the end anyway, no matter how absurd. The fact it is talked about so much on these boards just goes to show how much of a success the whole scam was.


Which bogeyman do you reject?

The terrorist attacks like 9/11?

Muslims marching through Sydney with beheading placards?

Muslims fighting two decade long wars in the middle to prevent the establishment of democracy?

All the Muslims who have come on here and explained all the good reasons why the reject freedom, human rights and democracy?

Millions of people around the world living under the yolk of Islam without basic freedom and human dignity?


Muslims are largely irrelevant to most of our lives in Australia. Stay out of their countries and stay away from their private gatherings if you don't like their culture. I have experienced orders of magnitude more fearmongering and anti-Islamic propaganda from the TV than I have had negative experiences in real life. I have rarely had a problem with minorities, as long as I've treated them politely and with the same respect I would treat any other human being.


That's nice Winston. But here's a question for you. Which bogeyman do you reject? I can list a few examples if you'd like.


Any boogeyman that anyone who reads this forum would infer from the number of hysterical posts on the subject, which are completely out of proportion to the actual influence the Islamic world has on any of those posting.


Does that include any of the ones I suggested?


The items you listed aren't mutually exclusive to Islam, you will find many parallels in other cultures. They are only issues because targetted propaganda with an agenda made them so. My original statement about not buying into Islamic boogeymen based on the hype surrounding the subject on this forum is accurate. The disproportionate anti-Islam propaganda posts on here are the result of an agenda of a percentage of the users on this special interests board. The subjects enjoys overexposure here for that reason. The reason being that people with an agenda against Islam are using every opportunity to churn out anti-Islamic propaganda. The is also the case on the world stage, any group could be targetted like this as an exercise in vilification, it just happens to be Islam in this case. To make comparisons becomes abstract and open to semantics lawyering. 50 years ago it was the Soviet 'Evil Empire', now it's Islamofascism.


freediver wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:27am:
The items you listed aren't mutually exclusive to Islam


What about individually?

Do you reject them?

Quote:
They are only issues because targetted propaganda with an agenda made them so.


So 9/11 would have been fine if the media hadn't made such a fuss about it?

Quote:
My original statement about not buying into Islamic boogeymen based on the hype surrounding the subject on this forum is accurate.


Thanks for clarifying. So you were talking about Islam?

Quote:
The disproportionate anti-Islam propaganda posts on here are the result of an agenda of a percentage of the users on this special interests board.


Should be balance it out with an equal measure of anti-whaling propganda, just to prove how unbiased we are?

Quote:
The reason being that people with an agenda against Islam are using every opportunity to churn out anti-Islamic propaganda.


Like the people who oppose for example the institutionalisation of rape in Islam? Is that the kind of agenda you are talking about?

Quote:
To make comparisons becomes abstract and open to semantics lawyering.


This is hardly mutually exclusive to Islam's apologists.

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50 years ago it was the Soviet 'Evil Empire', now it's Islamofascism.


And Nazism. Just another in a long line of imaginary threats eh?

Quote:
I will only respond to plain questions.


But will you answer them? Which bogeyman do you reject? Only the non-mutually exclusive ones?


Is there a question in there somewhere?

Because it looks to me like an Islamophobic rant designed to paint me as an apologist for manifestations of militancy which aren't uncommon in human societies exposed to outside interference. This is your reaction to me drawing attention to and questioning the demonisation of a large swathe of humanity that share cultural and historic ties. All because a tiny fraction of that community has hijacked a part of the culture as a basis to wage war, a concept which any rational person would understand. All you have shown by your persistent and obstinate diversions and misinterpretations, is that you have an agenda to keep.
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Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West.
Reply #350 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 9:49pm  
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 3:41pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 8:10pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 7:37pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 9:40pm:
I never bought into the Islamic boogeyman thing. There's no point in having an opinion on it.


Islam is a political ideology as well as a religion, it governs in parts of the world with Islamic law,Take the supreme leader the Ayatollah Khamenei from the Islamic republic of Iran as one example.

Ultra right wing fascist ideologies dont tolerate critics and Iran for 1 has a long track record of executing critics, i am sure they like useful idiots like you sticking up for their fascist ideology.

Does your Islam boogeyman include Islamic rule or political Islam?

www.amnesty.org/en/region/iran







Who cares what Iranians do you smacking dummy. We are in Australia, let's worry about that. In the Middle East, they aren't doing much different now to what they have always done.

The mistake the West made was indentifying and engaging terrorists as agents of a religious entity when they were a fringe element in most Islamic societies. Now all we've done is fed and empowered them as a pan-Islamic movement, giving them a lot of credibility considering how the West has acted. Other than that they are irrelevant and should be ignored.

The subject comes up here far too often for it to be anything other than targeted hate propaganda, which is exactly what it is from most of the posters here. Dumb, armchair intellectual wannabes talking about things they have no smacking clue about. You don't realise how stupid you look to educated people.


I used Iran as an example of Political Islam,there are 7 countries that execute people for the crime of atheism, all 7 have Islam as the state religion, is this the Islam morally bankrupt idiots like you stick up for?
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/10/the-seven-countries-where-...
Do you consider this to be hate propaganda or the truth?

As for Islamic terror perhaps you should listen to Dr Wafa Sultan, a former alawite muslim from Syria,I would say she has a far better understanding of Islam than dopey leftist Islamic apologists like you, Wafa is an ex muslim.


We see you adopt the Islamic line of any justified criticism of Islam as targeted hate propaganda,Islam does not tolerate critics they execute them in many Islamic countries, are you OK with muslims making up propaganda to introduce sharia laws into Australia?

The moderator of the Islam section Abu Rashid was caught posting on the aussie muslims forum about the need to promote and make propaganda for sharia law, a thread on it here-
www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1301799276


You dont realise how stupid and morally bankrupt you look compared to educated people on this subject.




Now you're rambling almost to the point of incoherency, so if there's a question in there somewhere that relates to your objection to my original statement, please state it clearly and unambiguously. Otherwise I'm not interested in having my quotes superimposed onto your vested interest rants.
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Reply #351 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:05pm  
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 9:46pm:
Is there a question in there somewhere?

Because it looks to me like an Islamophobic rant designed to paint me as an apologist for manifestations of militancy which aren't uncommon in human societies exposed to outside interference. This is your reaction to me drawing attention to and questioning the demonisation of a large swathe of humanity that share cultural and historic ties. All because a tiny fraction of that community has hijacked a part of the culture as a basis to wage war, a concept which any rational person would understand.


Less than half of the German people were Nazis.
Of those Nazis, a small proportion was Gestapo and SS.
A small fraction of the Gestapo and SS were  involved in mass killings.
Therefore Nazism is not to blame for the mass killings committed by the Gestapo and SS.
This is your argument and it is stupid to the core.


Islam is an ideology. Killings are carried out in the name of Islamic ideology. But to your way of thinking -if thinking it is - Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

Here's something you have blocked your ears to but perhaps it is time for you to listen to - listen to what the Muslims say about their suicide bombings, about their beheadings, about their terrorist attacks.

Take them at their word. Listen to what they say, not to your sheltered fantasies about what you would like them to have said.

People are actually killed in the name of Islam. It is high time that blind and deaf fvckers like you stopped hiding behind your self-inflicted blindness and deafness to it.


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Winston Smith??- what a pretentious wanker you must be.
Why not Mahatma Friggin' Gandhi, while you are at it? Are you trying to be modest?
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Reply #352 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:32pm  
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Is there a question in there somewhere?


Sure Winston. Usually the presence of a question mark is a strong hint. Here they are again for you. Obviously they make more sense when I include the quote from you I am responding to, but that appears to confuse you. Instead of asking me to repeat or explain them, please refer to the above post.

What about individually?

Do you reject them?

So 9/11 would have been fine if the media hadn't made such a fuss about it?

Thanks for clarifying. So you were talking about Islam?

Should be balance it out with an equal measure of anti-whaling propganda, just to prove how unbiased we are?

Like the people who oppose for example the institutionalisation of rape in Islam? Is that the kind of agenda you are talking about?

This is hardly mutually exclusive to Islam's apologists.

And Nazism. Just another in a long line of imaginary threats eh?

But will you answer them? Which bogeyman do you reject? Only the non-mutually exclusive ones?

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Because it looks to me like an Islamophobic rant designed to paint me as an apologist for manifestations of militancy which aren't uncommon in human societies exposed to outside interference.


They are questions Winston. Short, simple questions. Pretty much the opposite of a rant.

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All you have shown by your persistent and obstinate diversions and misinterpretations, is that you have an agenda to keep.


Wow, you are so insightful. What do you think my agenda is? And what do you think I am diverting from?
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Reply #353 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:43pm  
Soren wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:05pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 9:46pm:
Is there a question in there somewhere?

Because it looks to me like an Islamophobic rant designed to paint me as an apologist for manifestations of militancy which aren't uncommon in human societies exposed to outside interference. This is your reaction to me drawing attention to and questioning the demonisation of a large swathe of humanity that share cultural and historic ties. All because a tiny fraction of that community has hijacked a part of the culture as a basis to wage war, a concept which any rational person would understand.


Less than half of the German people were Nazis.
Of those Nazis, a small proportion was Gestapo and SS.
A small fraction of the Gestapo and SS were  involved in mass killings.
Therefore Nazism is not to blame for the mass killings committed by the Gestapo and SS.
This is your argument and it is stupid to the core.


Islam is an ideology. Killings are carried out in the name of Islamic ideology. But to your way of thinking -if thinking it is - Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

Here's something you have blocked your ears to but perhaps it is time for you to listen to - listen to what the Muslims say about their suicide bombings, about their beheadings, about their terrorist attacks.

Take them at their word. Listen to what they say, not to your sheltered fantasies about what you would like them to have said.

People are actually killed in the name of Islam. It is high time that blind and deaf fvckers like you stopped hiding behind your self-inflicted blindness and deafness to it.


Ps.
Winston Smith??- what a pretentious wanker you must be.
Why not Mahatma Friggin' Gandhi, while you are at it? Are you trying to be modest?









Do you have a question for me?

I'm not interested on commenting on your interpretations of a statement I've made and stand by.
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Reply #354 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:46pm  
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:43pm:
Do you have a question for me?





Yes, I do. You are a vacuous, pretentious wanker.
What's it like?
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Reply #355 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:00pm  
freediver wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:32pm:
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Is there a question in there somewhere?


Sure Winston. Usually the presence of a question mark is a strong hint. Here they are again for you. Obviously they make more sense when I include the quote from you I am responding to, but that appears to confuse you. Instead of asking me to repeat or explain them, please refer to the above post.

What about individually?

Do you reject them?

So 9/11 would have been fine if the media hadn't made such a fuss about it?

Thanks for clarifying. So you were talking about Islam?

Should be balance it out with an equal measure of anti-whaling propganda, just to prove how unbiased we are?

Like the people who oppose for example the institutionalisation of rape in Islam? Is that the kind of agenda you are talking about?

This is hardly mutually exclusive to Islam's apologists.

And Nazism. Just another in a long line of imaginary threats eh?

But will you answer them? Which bogeyman do you reject? Only the non-mutually exclusive ones?

Quote:
Because it looks to me like an Islamophobic rant designed to paint me as an apologist for manifestations of militancy which aren't uncommon in human societies exposed to outside interference.


They are questions Winston. Short, simple questions. Pretty much the opposite of a rant.

Quote:
All you have shown by your persistent and obstinate diversions and misinterpretations, is that you have an agenda to keep.


Wow, you are so insightful. What do you think my agenda is? And what do you think I am diverting from?


Those are not questions, those are random thoughts you have put out there, which I have no interest in commenting on. If you can put any questions into a logical context regarding original statement about Islamic boogeymen, then I will try to answer them. Look at each supposed question that you raised after quoting my comments and you will see each time you have tried to steer the debate by attempting to attribute to me a position based on logical fallacy.

I asserted that I don't buy into the Islamic boogeymen we are incessantly presented with in special interest media. I have even presented the scenario by which this has occurred and why I reject it.

All you have done is attempt to use my answers to launch strawman pretexts by which to attack my position. Most of what you have written is a nonsensical, out of context rant about why I shouldn't be rational.

You are not very good at this are you?
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Reply #356 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:01pm  
Soren wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:46pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:43pm:
Do you have a question for me?





Yes, I do. You are a vacuous, pretentious wanker.
What's it like?



Is that all you have left? That was quick.
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Reply #357 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:07pm  
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:00pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:32pm:
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Is there a question in there somewhere?


Sure Winston. Usually the presence of a question mark is a strong hint. Here they are again for you. Obviously they make more sense when I include the quote from you I am responding to, but that appears to confuse you. Instead of asking me to repeat or explain them, please refer to the above post.

What about individually?

Do you reject them?

So 9/11 would have been fine if the media hadn't made such a fuss about it?

Thanks for clarifying. So you were talking about Islam?

Should be balance it out with an equal measure of anti-whaling propganda, just to prove how unbiased we are?

Like the people who oppose for example the institutionalisation of rape in Islam? Is that the kind of agenda you are talking about?

This is hardly mutually exclusive to Islam's apologists.

And Nazism. Just another in a long line of imaginary threats eh?

But will you answer them? Which bogeyman do you reject? Only the non-mutually exclusive ones?

Quote:
Because it looks to me like an Islamophobic rant designed to paint me as an apologist for manifestations of militancy which aren't uncommon in human societies exposed to outside interference.


They are questions Winston. Short, simple questions. Pretty much the opposite of a rant.

Quote:
All you have shown by your persistent and obstinate diversions and misinterpretations, is that you have an agenda to keep.


Wow, you are so insightful. What do you think my agenda is? And what do you think I am diverting from?


Those are not questions, those are random thoughts you have put out there, which I have no interest in commenting on. If you can put any questions into a logical context regarding original statement about Islamic boogeymen, then I will try to answer them. Look at each supposed question that you raised after quoting my comments and you will see each time you have tried to steer the debate by attempting to attribute to me a position based on logical fallacy.

I asserted that I don't buy into the Islamic boogeymen we are incessantly presented with in special interest media. I have even presented the scenario by which this has occurred and why I reject it.

All you have done is attempt to use my answers to launch strawman pretexts by which to attack my position. Most of what you have written is a nonsensical, out of context rant about why I shouldn't be rational.

You are not very good at this are you?


Trying to figure out what you are on about? Yeah, apparently I am no good at that.

Let's start with a really simple question. Which Islamic "bogeymen" do you reject?
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Re: Islamonausea Rising in the West.
Reply #358 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:12pm  
freediver wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:07pm:
Winston Smith wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:00pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 10:32pm:
Quote:
Is there a question in there somewhere?


Sure Winston. Usually the presence of a question mark is a strong hint. Here they are again for you. Obviously they make more sense when I include the quote from you I am responding to, but that appears to confuse you. Instead of asking me to repeat or explain them, please refer to the above post.

What about individually?

Do you reject them?

So 9/11 would have been fine if the media hadn't made such a fuss about it?

Thanks for clarifying. So you were talking about Islam?

Should be balance it out with an equal measure of anti-whaling propganda, just to prove how unbiased we are?

Like the people who oppose for example the institutionalisation of rape in Islam? Is that the kind of agenda you are talking about?

This is hardly mutually exclusive to Islam's apologists.

And Nazism. Just another in a long line of imaginary threats eh?

But will you answer them? Which bogeyman do you reject? Only the non-mutually exclusive ones?

Quote:
Because it looks to me like an Islamophobic rant designed to paint me as an apologist for manifestations of militancy which aren't uncommon in human societies exposed to outside interference.


They are questions Winston. Short, simple questions. Pretty much the opposite of a rant.

Quote:
All you have shown by your persistent and obstinate diversions and misinterpretations, is that you have an agenda to keep.


Wow, you are so insightful. What do you think my agenda is? And what do you think I am diverting from?


Those are not questions, those are random thoughts you have put out there, which I have no interest in commenting on. If you can put any questions into a logical context regarding original statement about Islamic boogeymen, then I will try to answer them. Look at each supposed question that you raised after quoting my comments and you will see each time you have tried to steer the debate by attempting to attribute to me a position based on logical fallacy.

I asserted that I don't buy into the Islamic boogeymen we are incessantly presented with in special interest media. I have even presented the scenario by which this has occurred and why I reject it.

All you have done is attempt to use my answers to launch strawman pretexts by which to attack my position. Most of what you have written is a nonsensical, out of context rant about why I shouldn't be rational.

You are not very good at this are you?


Trying to figure out what you are on about? Yeah, apparently I am no good at that.

Let's start with a really simple question. Which Islamic "bogeymen" do you reject?


1. Define Islamic Boogeyman
2. List my choices
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Reply #359 - Aug 31st, 2013 at 8:22am  
You used the term, not me. I am trying to get you to explain what you mean. Did you just come across the word and think it would make you appear intelligent if you threw it in, and now you need me to explain what it means?

I have already given you some examples.
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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.
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