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Reply #30 - Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:15pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:47am:
Antarctica gaining Ice Mass — and is not extraordinary compared to 800 years of data


For the Rabbitt and MOTR's who want to argue that Antartica is also losing ice mass. It would seem it is gaining ice mass and sea ice extent. Game over for your argument guys

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/antarctic/Antarctic-ice-balance-A.gif

http://joannenova.com.au/2013/04/antarctica-gaining-ice-mass-and-is-not-extraord...

Could you post where I have argued that "Antartica is also losing ice mass"?
If anything - I would have said the exact opposite, since warming Antarctica would result in more ice, not less, due to increased precipitation.

Though the amount of summer ice melt in Antarctica is certainly increasing

According to AAP, scientists found the evidence for the fast melting in a 364-meter ice core containing a record of freezing and melting over the previous millennium.
"We found that the coolest conditions on the Antarctic Peninsula and the lowest amount of summer melt occurred around 600 years ago,” said Australian lead researcher Dr. Nerilie Abram, from the Australian National University and British Antarctic Survey. "At that time temperatures were around 1.6C lower than those recorded in the late 20th century and the amount of annual snowfall that melted and refroze was about 0.5%. Today, we see almost 10 times as much (5%) of the annual snowfall melting each year.”

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/14413217-fastest-antarctic-summer-ice-...

Why do you tell lies like this?

Are you pathalogically dishonest - or just really, really stupid?

Please explain Liar.
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Re: Hemispheric warming, not global warming
Reply #31 - Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:28pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:47am:
Antarctica gaining Ice Mass — and is not extraordinary compared to 800 years of data


For the Rabbitt and MOTR's who want to argue that Antartica is also losing ice mass. It would seem it is gaining ice mass and sea ice extent. Game over for your argument guys

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/antarctic/Antarctic-ice-balance-A.gif

http://joannenova.com.au/2013/04/antarctica-gaining-ice-mass-and-is-not-extraord...

Could you post where I have argued that "Antartica is also losing ice mass"?
If anything - I would have said the exact opposite, since warming Antarctica would result in more ice, not less, due to increased precipitation.

Though the amount of summer ice melt in Antarctica is certainly increasing

According to AAP, scientists found the evidence for the fast melting in a 364-meter ice core containing a record of freezing and melting over the previous millennium.
"We found that the coolest conditions on the Antarctic Peninsula and the lowest amount of summer melt occurred around 600 years ago,” said Australian lead researcher Dr. Nerilie Abram, from the Australian National University and British Antarctic Survey. "At that time temperatures were around 1.6C lower than those recorded in the late 20th century and the amount of annual snowfall that melted and refroze was about 0.5%. Today, we see almost 10 times as much (5%) of the annual snowfall melting each year.”

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/14413217-fastest-antarctic-summer-ice-...

Why do you tell lies like this?

Are you pathalogically dishonest - or just really, really stupid?

Please explain Liar.

Oh dear. "shakes head". Anything to keep the beast alive, even sounding like a complete idiot doesnt phase you.
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Reply #32 - Apr 20th, 2013 at 2:33pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:09pm:
BEST also comes up with this doozy, to which we know to be absolutely false

Quote:
"Solar forcing does not appear to contribute to the observed global warming of the past 250 years".


That's based on data - Data that Anthony Watts and Richard Muller checked. Berkely went overboard in engaging self-styled sceptics.

What evidence do you have that there was global warming in the last 250 years caused by Solar Forcing?

By the way,  nobody is talking about short term "decade scale" cyclic changes in Solar Forcing due to Solar cycles. Just so that you understand, the implied meaning is a progressive warming trend due to solar forcing over the last 250 years. There is none. 

Now there are two main research facilities working on Solar Irradiance. There are PMOD at Davos and The Max Planck Institute.

The increased forcings observed over the last 60 years are not reflected in increased solar forcings. There are decadal scale fluctuations due to the 11 year solar cycle and little else.  Data from PMOD.

...

Historical measurement of Solar irradiance depends on proxies, but the work carried out by the Max Planck institute shows no remarkable increase in Solar Irradiance in the last 250 years.

The graph is a scan from an old paper by Solanki and Fligge.
(GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 26, NO. 16, PAGES 2465-2468) 

I'm not aware of any more recent research that contradicts these findings. Are you?
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Reply #33 - Apr 20th, 2013 at 2:54pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:28pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:47am:
Antarctica gaining Ice Mass — and is not extraordinary compared to 800 years of data


For the Rabbitt and MOTR's who want to argue that Antartica is also losing ice mass. It would seem it is gaining ice mass and sea ice extent. Game over for your argument guys

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/antarctic/Antarctic-ice-balance-A.gif

http://joannenova.com.au/2013/04/antarctica-gaining-ice-mass-and-is-not-extraord...

Could you post where I have argued that "Antartica is also losing ice mass"?
If anything - I would have said the exact opposite, since warming Antarctica would result in more ice, not less, due to increased precipitation.

Though the amount of summer ice melt in Antarctica is certainly increasing

According to AAP, scientists found the evidence for the fast melting in a 364-meter ice core containing a record of freezing and melting over the previous millennium.
"We found that the coolest conditions on the Antarctic Peninsula and the lowest amount of summer melt occurred around 600 years ago,” said Australian lead researcher Dr. Nerilie Abram, from the Australian National University and British Antarctic Survey. "At that time temperatures were around 1.6C lower than those recorded in the late 20th century and the amount of annual snowfall that melted and refroze was about 0.5%. Today, we see almost 10 times as much (5%) of the annual snowfall melting each year.”

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/14413217-fastest-antarctic-summer-ice-...

Why do you tell lies like this?

Are you pathalogically dishonest - or just really, really stupid?

Please explain Liar.

Oh dear. "shakes head". Anything to keep the beast alive, even sounding like a complete idiot doesnt phase you.



youre getting a bit of a hammering in here aren't you!

See what happens when you lie in public?

You cant hide behind lies - they catch up with you in the end

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Reply #34 - Apr 20th, 2013 at 10:45pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:28pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 17th, 2013 at 8:47am:
Antarctica gaining Ice Mass — and is not extraordinary compared to 800 years of data


For the Rabbitt and MOTR's who want to argue that Antartica is also losing ice mass. It would seem it is gaining ice mass and sea ice extent. Game over for your argument guys

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/antarctic/Antarctic-ice-balance-A.gif

http://joannenova.com.au/2013/04/antarctica-gaining-ice-mass-and-is-not-extraord...

Could you post where I have argued that "Antartica is also losing ice mass"?
If anything - I would have said the exact opposite, since warming Antarctica would result in more ice, not less, due to increased precipitation.

Though the amount of summer ice melt in Antarctica is certainly increasing

According to AAP, scientists found the evidence for the fast melting in a 364-meter ice core containing a record of freezing and melting over the previous millennium.
"We found that the coolest conditions on the Antarctic Peninsula and the lowest amount of summer melt occurred around 600 years ago,” said Australian lead researcher Dr. Nerilie Abram, from the Australian National University and British Antarctic Survey. "At that time temperatures were around 1.6C lower than those recorded in the late 20th century and the amount of annual snowfall that melted and refroze was about 0.5%. Today, we see almost 10 times as much (5%) of the annual snowfall melting each year.”

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/14413217-fastest-antarctic-summer-ice-...

Why do you tell lies like this?

Are you pathalogically dishonest - or just really, really stupid?

Please explain Liar.

Oh dear. "shakes head". Anything to keep the beast alive, even sounding like a complete idiot doesnt phase you.


So - no.

You can't post where I have argued  that "Antartica is also losing ice mass"

LIAR


Caught again.

Why do you keep doing it?

You get caught ever single time

You are the worst liar I have ever seen.

Seriously - you are far too stupid to be doing this.  You get caught.

EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Grow up Liar.
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Reply #35 - Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:01pm
 
Hey progressiveslol

The Rabbit is fairly adamant that you are a champion Liar

It seems that your reputation in here is Universal

good luck
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Reply #36 - Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:11pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:01pm:
Hey progressiveslol

The Rabbit is fairly adamant that you are a champion Liar

It seems that your reputation in here is Universal

good luck

Yes.  Progs is a champion liar.

He gets caught time and time again - then he runs away like a little girl.

He is a big fan of English tabloid journalists.  He fell hook,line and sinker for the thing in the e Daily Mail that said that global warming has stopped!

When he is asked how global warming could have possibly stopped when sea levels continue to rise, when the arctic ice cap continues to melt and when glacial mass balance continues to decrease - he runs away like a little girl.

And this is another classic example of his lying.  As you have realised.  He is not very bright.  So he thinks he can make things up and no one will notice.

Seriously - I think someone should contact the Australian Federal Police about him.  He is obviously deranged.  Surely the AFP are monitoring these boards?!?!  Here he is boys...come and get him.
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Reply #37 - Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:44pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:11pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:01pm:
Hey progressiveslol

The Rabbit is fairly adamant that you are a champion Liar

It seems that your reputation in here is Universal

good luck

Yes.  Progs is a champion liar.

He gets caught time and time again - then he runs away like a little girl.



I must say Mr Rabbit that I fully sympathise with those sentiments

I am personally ashamed of being associated with this Champion Liar in public!

I may need to take some sort of legal action against this Champion Liar on the grounds that my integrity in the community and good name has been totally tarnished by being associated with this compulsive distorter of simple truth.

Do you think that this Champion Liar will ever apologise in public for his distortions?

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Reply #38 - Apr 21st, 2013 at 12:49am
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 11:44pm:
Do you think that this Champion Liar will ever apologise in public for his distortions?


No.  He won't.

He has been caught lying so many times.

But he just runs away.

We can ask him here:

Hey Progs - show us where I have argued  that "Antartica is also losing ice mass?

But he will not answer.

He is a liar.

He know he is a liar.

And he runs away.


Or we could ask him - Hey Progs - why did you deliberately lie when you started this thread:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1363723853

But he will just run away.

He is a liar.

A liar caught over and over and over again red-handed telling lies.
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Reply #39 - Apr 21st, 2013 at 2:20am
 
ahh yes...
I'm sure many of our new posters are seeing what we older members have known for a looooong time.

Progs, Prog lol, or even P Lolly,  (which I prefer by the way)
is incapable of rational thought.. P Lolly is seemingly governed by some hard-wired moron function.

Challenge P Lolly on anything... you will get the same non-reply.

still... sigh... sometimes its so boring you just have to bait it.


yep people.. we still have MANY like P Lolly on this forum.

Perhaps they have adopted the philosophy of their hero .., Tony Abbott, .. in opposing for the sake of it. 

Not real smart eh.??
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Reply #40 - Apr 21st, 2013 at 2:59am
 
Emma wrote on Apr 21st, 2013 at 2:20am:
ahh yes...
I'm sure many of our new posters are seeing what we older members have known for a looooong time.

Progs, Prog lol, or even P Lolly,  (which I prefer by the way)
is incapable of rational thought.. P Lolly is seemingly governed by some hard-wired moron function.

Challenge P Lolly on anything... you will get the same non-reply.

still... sigh... sometimes its so boring you just have to bait it.


yep people.. we still have MANY like P Lolly on this forum.

Perhaps they have adopted the philosophy of their hero .., Tony Abbott, .. in opposing for the sake of it. 

Not real smart eh.??

Hey, art loving buddy Winkchill out: this is serious business and that means chess.
Polluters have a lot to lose... Year eleven economics taught the relevant Aussie punter that opportunity cost means a liberal voters son will always be a slave.
Chess teaches you that even your own flesh must be used if you perceive the threat to your dreams of dynasty by way of polluting for free, um, threatened. Crack smokers rule this western world: that's why it apparently feels safe behind the wall of impotence that is nuclear softiness!!!!!  Sad
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Reply #41 - Apr 21st, 2013 at 3:18am
 
well Deathray  I still enjoy playing backgammon...  don't get me wrong... not slagging off chess... used to play some great games with my dearest departed mama..

but Backgammon?.. you sacrifice yes..  to win.  But you must always face the spectre of chance, ie chaos..  so ..

I prefer it for its greater similitude to real life.   Smiley Wink
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Reply #42 - Apr 21st, 2013 at 2:26pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 20th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
[quote author=smcgill link=1366152431/0#0 date=1366152431]

Are you pathalogically dishonest - or just really, really stupid?

Please explain Liar.


That's a bit unfair. I don't think he's pathologically dishonest. Wink
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Reply #43 - Apr 21st, 2013 at 5:50pm
 
....one can almost sympathise with a pathologically dishonest clown puppet.

But to be a Champion Liar by using specifically designed training regimes is totally unacceptable and reeks of the stench of cowardice and the putrid foul wafting odour of evil contempt and self loathing.
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Reply #44 - May 3rd, 2013 at 1:04am
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 21st, 2013 at 5:50pm:
....one can almost sympathise with a pathologically dishonest clown puppet.

But to be a Champion Liar by using specifically designed training regimes is totally unacceptable and reeks of the stench of cowardice and the putrid foul wafting odour of evil contempt and self loathing.

Liberal voters hate their kids!

End of story really!!
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