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What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? (Read 76262 times)
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #825 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 6:52am
 
Emma wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:06am:
it means that christians cling to the past, and hope the good old days will come again.

Come again>!!??

Yep,, they can't face reality so they see everything through the clouded lens of religion.  No wonder they are so ineffective.. and bring on the commission of enquiry into systemic abuse of children and the vulnerable by the PRIESTS and the Church . 

What does it mean?  SHAME EMBARRASSMENT HELPLESSNESS 


Emma, you made an incorrect assumption against me in another topic - and then when I answered it you went blank. But here you are again making unfounded assumptions. I am wondering actually how many BA Christians do you know. Not just the ones who think they are Christian because they were born in a "christian country".

Yes, there are some "christians" out there that give Christianity bad name...but just the same there are more atheists/agnostics/etc out there giving people like you a bad name. I know a lot of lovely people who are not Christians (and you may even be one of them), but I don't slag them because of what I see other atheists/agnostics/etc are doing.
Just watch the TV news.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #826 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 6:55am
 
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:40am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

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I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
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Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

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SO only Christians are allowed to quote from the bible..

is that what you are claiming?????


No and no!! And this is what happens when some try to interpret the Word of God.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #827 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 6:56am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

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I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

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Borg, some Christians feel that the 'xtian' is derogatory, and don't accept that it as a title for their beliefs.


The term was invented by xtians they say the X signifies the cross. I just find it easier to type.

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xorg??   Cheesy
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #828 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 7:32am
 
Emma wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:06am:
it means that christians cling to the past, and hope the good old days will come again.

Come again>!!??

Yep,, they can't face reality so they see everything through the clouded lens of religion.  No wonder they are so ineffective.. and bring on the commission of enquiry into systemic abuse of children and the vulnerable by the PRIESTS and the Church . 

What does it mean?  SHAME EMBARRASSMENT HELPLESSNESS 



i would actually totally reject that.

whilst i follow my own brand of christian/buddhist/nature worship  Wink Wink
i actually find it is the aetheists and the secular west who cant face reality and resort to helplessness.

if you look at what religion has provided man (or what it should provide him ) it is preparation for death.
certainly if we look at the attitude to death of many devout people throughout the ages, we see they approached death with courage and honour.
as general paton said "there are no aetheists in fox holes"
if we look at the buddhist tradition we see an enormous focus on practicing for ones death and being realistic about it.
if we look at islam we see a focus on "learn to die, before you die and you will never die"
one could even say the lunatics who flew into the twin towers, certainly faced their death , with more courage and conviction than the
"helpless" aetheists back in economy class.


the secular aetheists are terrified of death.
i doubt many of them have ever seena dead body
they lock away the dying in hospitals so they wont have to deal with their own feelings of shame and hopelessness.

but deal with it they will.  and this, emma, is reality.

so the aetheists better come up with a plan or i would say they are mired in a false world, living in denial and unable to admit their hopelessness.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #829 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 7:38am
 
damien wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 6:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

SOB


I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

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Borg, some Christians feel that the 'xtian' is derogatory, and don't accept that it as a title for their beliefs.


The term was invented by xtians they say the X signifies the cross. I just find it easier to type.

SOB


xorg??   Cheesy


Thats easier to type is it? Hahahaha.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #830 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 7:40am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 7:32am:
the secular aetheists are terrified of death.
i doubt many of them have ever seena dead body
they lock away the dying in hospitals so they wont have to deal with their own feelings of shame and hopelessness.


Seriously? No secular atheists have never seen a dead body? All secular atheists are afraid of death? When were you elected king of the atheists to speak for them all?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #831 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 10:45am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2013 at 5:42am:
Soren,
Quote:
Er... largish fallacy there, I'm afraid. The observer cannot observe himself without some part of him remaining unobserved - namely the part that is doing the observing.


Well then you are one part of the universe looking at another part.


We are still - each and every one of us - the universe perceiving itself.

That is your spiritual message for today.




This message continues for all of human time.

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Reply #832 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:45pm
 
Out of curiosty I looked back to the OP and find that the comment there has nothing to do with the question asked in the topic heading. Obviously the originator of this post just wanted to vent his spleen.

So, back to basics - do you believe that Jesus Christ existed? From your answer I can continue.
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Reply #833 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm
 
damien wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
Out of curiosty I looked back to the OP and find that the comment there has nothing to do with the question asked in the topic heading. Obviously the originator of this post just wanted to vent his spleen.

So, back to basics - do you believe that Jesus Christ existed? From your answer I can continue.


Who are you talking to?

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Reply #834 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:53pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
damien wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
Out of curiosty I looked back to the OP and find that the comment there has nothing to do with the question asked in the topic heading. Obviously the originator of this post just wanted to vent his spleen.

So, back to basics - do you believe that Jesus Christ existed? From your answer I can continue.


Who are you talking to?

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Anyone who thinks that I am. Just as usual when a comment is posted?
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Reply #835 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:15pm
 
damien wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:53pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
damien wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
Out of curiosty I looked back to the OP and find that the comment there has nothing to do with the question asked in the topic heading. Obviously the originator of this post just wanted to vent his spleen.

So, back to basics - do you believe that Jesus Christ existed? From your answer I can continue.


Who are you talking to?

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Anyone who thinks that I am. Just as usual when a comment is posted?


Usually when a question is asked there is a quote from the person being addressed.

No i do not believe there is a jesus or even ever was a jesus. It is possible there was someone named jesus @ some point but he wasnt a god. IMO he was a fictional character though. Just my opinion.

I also dont believe in fairies or leprechauns or gods.

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Reply #836 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:17pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:15pm:
It is possible there was someone named jesus @ some point but he wasnt a god



Not even the bible claims he was a god.
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Reply #837 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 2:16pm
 
... wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:17pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:15pm:
It is possible there was someone named jesus @ some point but he wasnt a god



Not even the bible claims he was a god.


Yeah i know but a lot of religious ppl and religions claim he was/is.

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Reply #838 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 2:19pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 2:16pm:
... wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:17pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:15pm:
It is possible there was someone named jesus @ some point but he wasnt a god



Not even the bible claims he was a god.


Yeah i know but a lot of religious ppl and religions claim he was/is.

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No they don't.
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Reply #839 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 2:25pm
 
... wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 2:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 2:16pm:
... wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:17pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 1:15pm:
It is possible there was someone named jesus @ some point but he wasnt a god



Not even the bible claims he was a god.


Yeah i know but a lot of religious ppl and religions claim he was/is.

SOB


No they don't.


Here ya go

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=tGrrDF7XhKhlZd4...

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