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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #810 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:40am
 
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Interesting:

Apparently the White House referred to Christmas Trees as Holiday Trees for the first time this year which prompted CBS presenter, Ben Stein, to present this piece which I would like to share with you. I think it applies just as much to many countries as it does to America ....
The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.


My confession:


I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.


It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.


I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.


Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God ? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.


In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.


Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina).. Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, 'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'


In light of recent events... Terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.


Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.


Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.


Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'


Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.


Are you laughing yet?


Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.


Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.


Pass it on if you think it has merit.



If not, then just discard it.... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.


My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,


Ben Stein
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #811 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:49am
 
Its not as if they even have anything to do with religion anyway

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #812 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

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I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
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Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #813 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am
 
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

SOB


I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #814 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:32am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

SOB


I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

SOB


Borg, some Christians feel that the 'xtian' is derogatory, and don't accept that it as a title for their beliefs.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #815 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:40am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

SOB


I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

SOB



SO only Christians are allowed to quote from the bible..

is that what you are claiming?????
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #816 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 4:31pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

SOB


I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

SOB


No, I am not a liar - I am not an "xtian", however I am a Christian. I knew that you weren't really interested and you have borne that out.

Nevertheless God still loves you.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #817 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:34pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

SOB


I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

SOB


Borg, some Christians feel that the 'xtian' is derogatory, and don't accept that it as a title for their beliefs.


The term was invented by xtians they say the X signifies the cross. I just find it easier to type.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #818 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:36pm
 
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 4:31pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

SOB


I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

SOB


No, I am not a liar - I am not an "xtian", however I am a Christian. I knew that you weren't really interested and you have borne that out.

Nevertheless God still loves you.



Well you didnt tell me what its like to be an xtian these days - instead you tried to evangelise and insult (as if insulting ppl will convert them! haha!).

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #819 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:38pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:40am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:22am:
damien wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 10:15am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 23rd, 2013 at 5:41am:
Uhh whatever, Tell me damien what does it mean to be an xtian nowadays?

SOB


I am assuming that you are asking me what it means to be a Christian? I am not a xtian. Looks like you find it hard to write the name Christ. But do you use it in your everyday speaking as blasphemy? I wonder!

Do you really want to know - or just trying to bait?


Matthew 7:5-7

New King James Version (NKJV)


5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces
.

Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.


Looks like you are a liar. You say you arent an xtian and yet you spam bible verses @ me. Obviously not prepared to answer the question.

SOB



SO only Christians are allowed to quote from the bible..

is that what you are claiming?????


You know good and well what i meant there - unless you dont in which case you would be pretty stupid - and you arent stupid are you? No didnt think so so you know what i meant. It was how he did it not that he did it.

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Reply #820 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:48pm
 
What does it mean to be a fookin' Borg these days?


That's the question for the age.


What does it mean to be a fookin' Borg at 50 these days????

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Reply #821 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:49pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:48pm:
What does it mean to be a fookin' Borg these days?


That's the question for the age.


What does it mean to be a fookin' Borg at 50 these days????



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Reply #822 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:06am
 
it means that christians cling to the past, and hope the good old days will come again.

Come again>!!??

Yep,, they can't face reality so they see everything through the clouded lens of religion.  No wonder they are so ineffective.. and bring on the commission of enquiry into systemic abuse of children and the vulnerable by the PRIESTS and the Church . 

What does it mean?  SHAME EMBARRASSMENT HELPLESSNESS
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Reply #823 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 4:51am
 
Soren wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:48pm:
What does it mean to be a fookin' Borg these days?


That's the question for the age.


What does it mean to be a fookin' Borg at 50 these days????



Seriously? @ 48 you believe in borg? They arent real silly. Im not really a borg. Its an avatar.

Are you really a turban wearing ...?

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Reply #824 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 4:53am
 
Emma wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:06am:
it means that christians cling to the past, and hope the good old days will come again.

Come again>!!??

Yep,, they can't face reality so they see everything through the clouded lens of religion.  No wonder they are so ineffective.. and bring on the commission of enquiry into systemic abuse of children and the vulnerable by the PRIESTS and the Church . 

What does it mean?  SHAME EMBARRASSMENT HELPLESSNESS 


Yeah and also it means they cant answer the question so they try to distract from the question with attempted insults and abuse.

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