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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #780 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 6:42am

Yadda wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 11:52pm:

Hi Yadda,
Yes but you came back with:

Quote:

The guy did not expose one ounce of discernment.

The guy made a careful analysis with quotes & proved his point.
You have just cherry picked some single passage & ignored what he said.

Go & watch it again & give an intellectual rebuttal if you can based on each point.

Start with one point:
e.g. you have to sell everything.

bobby,

I already did.

I noted the points at 6m 44s, and rebutted all of them [to myself, to my own satisfaction].

But if those 8 points hold any credibility with you, then that is your choice,
....it is your choice to give them your personal 'intellectual' credibility.

I do not.

bobby,

Believe whatever you want to believe.

That is what this game is about.

Yadda,
you didn't rebutt a single point.
You wrote:

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1 Corinthians 2:6
Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #781 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 7:22am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 4:17am:

damien wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

damien wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 6:12am:

It doesn't mean a great deal to the 'Christians' on this forum.

If they really, truly believed in heaven and hell, they'd be scared enough to treat God's children like they'd treat Jesus if he were to sign on.

The real Christians who follow the bible to the nth degree are out doing God's work, not cussing at non-Christians and Muslims.

If they really believed the bible stuff, they'd be scared enough to put in a decent effort, these dudes don't even try to act nice, let alone Christ-like.

If they honestly believed they are going to spend all eternity (that's a loooong time) burning in hell, screaming to be freed, in absolute agony watching other people having an absolutely divine existence across the way, they'd be nice. That's not a cool image, they make hell sound very hellish in the bible, the greatest torture one can imagine forever and ever.

I can't think of one so-called Christian on this forum, that would be excused from hell, they're not nice to Gods children, that alone strikes their names off the heaven list, if we are going buy the bible readings, of course.

But then again, there's that all important clause that says "repent and ask for forgiveness" and it's straight up to heaven you go.

It means nothing to be a Christian because they are exactly the same as non-Christians, they just think they're superior.

I am sorry that you feel that way. I cannot remember being nasty to anyone here - even though I have not agreed with them. In fact I found the opposite as some have been name calling to me (at least).

All I can say is that Christians are not perfect - just forgiven. Do you know Him who forgives? I trust that you will.

Oh? Poor damien. Who called you names and what did they call you?

SOB

Obviously you did not read what my answer was referring to. Typical!!

What do you mean typical? You said ppl were calling you names. I asked you who and what names they called you.

SOB

How about doing a bit of research here yourself? I haven't got the time to hold your hand. If you actually read all the posts here you would have seen the insults/names used against those who believe.
Now, have a nice day.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #782 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 8:06am

damien wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 7:22am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 4:17am:

damien wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

damien wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 6:12am:

It doesn't mean a great deal to the 'Christians' on this forum.

If they really, truly believed in heaven and hell, they'd be scared enough to treat God's children like they'd treat Jesus if he were to sign on.

The real Christians who follow the bible to the nth degree are out doing God's work, not cussing at non-Christians and Muslims.

If they really believed the bible stuff, they'd be scared enough to put in a decent effort, these dudes don't even try to act nice, let alone Christ-like.

If they honestly believed they are going to spend all eternity (that's a loooong time) burning in hell, screaming to be freed, in absolute agony watching other people having an absolutely divine existence across the way, they'd be nice. That's not a cool image, they make hell sound very hellish in the bible, the greatest torture one can imagine forever and ever.

I can't think of one so-called Christian on this forum, that would be excused from hell, they're not nice to Gods children, that alone strikes their names off the heaven list, if we are going buy the bible readings, of course.

But then again, there's that all important clause that says "repent and ask for forgiveness" and it's straight up to heaven you go.

It means nothing to be a Christian because they are exactly the same as non-Christians, they just think they're superior.

I am sorry that you feel that way. I cannot remember being nasty to anyone here - even though I have not agreed with them. In fact I found the opposite as some have been name calling to me (at least).

All I can say is that Christians are not perfect - just forgiven. Do you know Him who forgives? I trust that you will.

Oh? Poor damien. Who called you names and what did they call you?

SOB

Obviously you did not read what my answer was referring to. Typical!!

What do you mean typical? You said ppl were calling you names. I asked you who and what names they called you.

SOB

How about doing a bit of research here yourself? I haven't got the time to hold your hand. If you actually read all the posts here you would have seen the insults/names used against those who believe.
Now, have a nice day.

Ahh. So it didnt happen then.

You made the assertion/complaint/whinge the onus is on your to answer the question.

SOB

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #783 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 9:11am

Sorry bobby,

My wrong, for not highlighting what i was referring to.

Yadda wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 11:52pm:

Hi Yadda,
Yes but you came back with:

Quote:

The guy did not expose one ounce of discernment.

The guy made a careful analysis with quotes & proved his point.
You have just cherry picked some single passage & ignored what he said.

Go & watch it again & give an intellectual rebuttal if you can based on each point.

Start with one point:
e.g. you have to sell everything.

bobby,

I already did.

I noted the points at 6m 44s, and rebutted all of them [to myself, to my own satisfaction].

But if those 8 points hold any credibility with you, then that is your choice,
....it is your choice to give them your personal 'intellectual' credibility.

I do not.

bobby,

Believe whatever you want to believe.

That is what this game is about.

I am not going to give an intellectual rebuttal on each point.

If you wish to try to understand what Jesus meant by his words, then YOU should read the New Testament, and seek it out for yourself.

Matthew 6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
...
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

John 12:25
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #785 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 10:38am

Yadda wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 11:52pm:

Hi Yadda,
Yes but you came back with:

Quote:

The guy did not expose one ounce of discernment.

The guy made a careful analysis with quotes & proved his point.
You have just cherry picked some single passage & ignored what he said.

Go & watch it again & give an intellectual rebuttal if you can based on each point.

Start with one point:
e.g. you have to sell everything.

bobby,

I already did.

I noted the points at 6m 44s, and rebutted all of them [to myself, to my own satisfaction].

But if those 8 points hold any credibility with you, then that is your choice,
....it is your choice to give them your personal 'intellectual' credibility.

I do not.

bobby,

Believe whatever you want to believe.

That is what this game is about.

Have you sold everything yet ? If not why not ?

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #787 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:03pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:00pm: Yadda must sell everything of he wants to go to heaven. Have an Ozpolitic auction Yadda. Longy will buy up all your religious icons, he needs all the brownie points ha can get.
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KJT1981 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1822	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #788 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:10pm Notice you haven't been back to this thread Pansi. Maybe you have and decided to ignore it as you were WRONG again. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1358505044/92#92
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #789 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:15pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:00pm:

Yadda must sell everything of he wants to go to heaven.

Have an Ozpolitic auction Yadda. Longy will buy up all your religious icons, he needs all the brownie points ha can get.

Unfortunately for longloser the points are not transferable. He'll have to keep wasting his time at his local parish until he has scored enough frequent flyer points Grin

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #790 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:17pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 8:06am:

damien wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 7:22am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 4:17am:

damien wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:35pm:

damien wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 6:12am:

It doesn't mean a great deal to the 'Christians' on this forum.

If they really, truly believed in heaven and hell, they'd be scared enough to treat God's children like they'd treat Jesus if he were to sign on.

The real Christians who follow the bible to the nth degree are out doing God's work, not cussing at non-Christians and Muslims.

If they really believed the bible stuff, they'd be scared enough to put in a decent effort, these dudes don't even try to act nice, let alone Christ-like.

If they honestly believed they are going to spend all eternity (that's a loooong time) burning in hell, screaming to be freed, in absolute agony watching other people having an absolutely divine existence across the way, they'd be nice. That's not a cool image, they make hell sound very hellish in the bible, the greatest torture one can imagine forever and ever.

I can't think of one so-called Christian on this forum, that would be excused from hell, they're not nice to Gods children, that alone strikes their names off the heaven list, if we are going buy the bible readings, of course.

But then again, there's that all important clause that says "repent and ask for forgiveness" and it's straight up to heaven you go.

It means nothing to be a Christian because they are exactly the same as non-Christians, they just think they're superior.

I am sorry that you feel that way. I cannot remember being nasty to anyone here - even though I have not agreed with them. In fact I found the opposite as some have been name calling to me (at least).

All I can say is that Christians are not perfect - just forgiven. Do you know Him who forgives? I trust that you will.

Oh? Poor damien. Who called you names and what did they call you?

SOB

Obviously you did not read what my answer was referring to. Typical!!

What do you mean typical? You said ppl were calling you names. I asked you who and what names they called you.

SOB

How about doing a bit of research here yourself? I haven't got the time to hold your hand. If you actually read all the posts here you would have seen the insults/names used against those who believe.
Now, have a nice day.

Ahh. So it didnt happen then.

You made the assertion/complaint/whinge the onus is on your to answer the question.

SOB

Think what you like. Makes no difference to me. As long as I know that I telling the truth I can rest easy!!

God even loves you, Borg!!

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 110810 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #792 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 6:27pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:00pm: Yadda must sell everything if he wants to go to heaven. So Yadda disappears when he had a chance to rebutt the video. What a coward. he is forgiven namaste
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #793 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 6:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 6:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:00pm:

Yadda must sell everything if he wants to go to heaven.

So Yadda disappears when he had a chance to rebutt the video.

What a coward.

he is forgiven

namaste

he is looking through the bible to find yet another contradiction Grin

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #794 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 7:36pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 6:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 6:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 12:00pm:

Yadda must sell everything if he wants to go to heaven.

So Yadda disappears when he had a chance to rebutt the video.

What a coward.

he is forgiven

namaste

he is looking through the bible to find yet another contradiction Grin

Actually Nail,
the video mentioned the contradictions in the Bible:

you had to love your brother & hate your brother.

you had to be like a child yet know & follow crazy 613 OT laws.

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