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Reply #750 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 7:06am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 6:12am:

It doesn't mean a great deal to the 'Christians' on this forum.

If they really, truly believed in heaven and hell, they'd be scared enough to treat God's children like they'd treat Jesus if he were to sign on.

The real Christians who follow the bible to the nth degree are out doing God's work, not cussing at non-Christians and Muslims.

If they really believed the bible stuff, they'd be scared enough to put in a decent effort, these dudes don't even try to act nice, let alone Christ-like.

If they honestly believed they are going to spend all eternity (that's a loooong time) burning in hell, screaming to be freed, in absolute agony watching other people having an absolutely divine existence across the way, they'd be nice. That's not a cool image, they make hell sound very hellish in the bible, the greatest torture one can imagine forever and ever.

I can't think of one so-called Christian on this forum, that would be excused from hell, they're not nice to Gods children, that alone strikes their names off the heaven list, if we are going buy the bible readings, of course.

But then again, there's that all important clause that says "repent and ask for forgiveness" and it's straight up to heaven you go.

It means nothing to be a Christian because they are exactly the same as non-Christians, they just think they're superior.

SALT.

Salt is an irritant in an open wound.

Matthew 5:13
Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

Truth is also an irritant, to those who hate it.

John 18:37
......Jesus answered,......To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

John 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

"....lest his deeds should be reproved."

???

But surely, Christians are not allowed to reprove anyone.
/sarc off

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

George Orwell

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

George Orwell

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #751 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 7:47am The only necessary instructions in the good book is the absolution. I watched a preacher get some young street kids to repeat it after him. He then said they are 'saved', they will go to heaven. Those kids didn't have one clue of the enormity of what they did that night. Too easy!!!!
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 115944 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #752 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 7:57am Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 6:31am: Hi Pansi - did you miss the video above? Isn't it funny?
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #754 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:14am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:11am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 7:57am:

Hi Pansi - did you miss the video above?
Isn't it funny?

Hi Bobby,

I've seen it before, I pretty much agree with all his views. He had a huge following because he spoke truth in a world of nonsense.

Good - I now believe in the Sun God too.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 115944 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #755 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:59am No one gets to go to heaven:
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30842 Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #756 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 12:20pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:59am: No one gets to go to heaven: that means that longloser has been ripped off by his church but is too stupid to work it out
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #757 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 12:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:59am:

No one gets to go to heaven:

No one gets to go to heaven

It is true;

No one who hates God's righteousness, gets to go to heaven.

You can bet your life on it!

p.s.
I watched the BS YT.

The guy did not expose one ounce of discernment.

1 Corinthians 2:6
Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Hey bobby;

Go to hell.

Your choice.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #758 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 1:58pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:59am:

No one gets to go to heaven:

that means that longloser has been ripped off by his church but is too stupid to work it out Grin

He did say no intelligent person could find this information out and still believe in heaven.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #759 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 2:44pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:59am:

No one gets to go to heaven:

that means that longloser has been ripped off by his church but is too stupid to work it out Grin

He did say no intelligent person could find this information out and still believe in heaven.

there's no money back guarantee on a gold pass to heaven. Once you're dead and you don't get to heaven the people that ripped you off for all of these years are laughing all of the way to the bank Grin

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #760 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:18pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 6:12am:

It doesn't mean a great deal to the 'Christians' on this forum.

If they really, truly believed in heaven and hell, they'd be scared enough to treat God's children like they'd treat Jesus if he were to sign on.

The real Christians who follow the bible to the nth degree are out doing God's work, not cussing at non-Christians and Muslims.

If they really believed the bible stuff, they'd be scared enough to put in a decent effort, these dudes don't even try to act nice, let alone Christ-like.

If they honestly believed they are going to spend all eternity (that's a loooong time) burning in hell, screaming to be freed, in absolute agony watching other people having an absolutely divine existence across the way, they'd be nice. That's not a cool image, they make hell sound very hellish in the bible, the greatest torture one can imagine forever and ever.

I can't think of one so-called Christian on this forum, that would be excused from hell, they're not nice to Gods children, that alone strikes their names off the heaven list, if we are going buy the bible readings, of course.

But then again, there's that all important clause that says "repent and ask for forgiveness" and it's straight up to heaven you go.

It means nothing to be a Christian because they are exactly the same as non-Christians, they just think they're superior.

I am sorry that you feel that way. I cannot remember being nasty to anyone here - even though I have not agreed with them. In fact I found the opposite as some have been name calling to me (at least).

All I can say is that Christians are not perfect - just forgiven. Do you know Him who forgives? I trust that you will.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #761 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:35pm

damien wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 6:12am:

It doesn't mean a great deal to the 'Christians' on this forum.

If they really, truly believed in heaven and hell, they'd be scared enough to treat God's children like they'd treat Jesus if he were to sign on.

The real Christians who follow the bible to the nth degree are out doing God's work, not cussing at non-Christians and Muslims.

If they really believed the bible stuff, they'd be scared enough to put in a decent effort, these dudes don't even try to act nice, let alone Christ-like.

If they honestly believed they are going to spend all eternity (that's a loooong time) burning in hell, screaming to be freed, in absolute agony watching other people having an absolutely divine existence across the way, they'd be nice. That's not a cool image, they make hell sound very hellish in the bible, the greatest torture one can imagine forever and ever.

I can't think of one so-called Christian on this forum, that would be excused from hell, they're not nice to Gods children, that alone strikes their names off the heaven list, if we are going buy the bible readings, of course.

But then again, there's that all important clause that says "repent and ask for forgiveness" and it's straight up to heaven you go.

It means nothing to be a Christian because they are exactly the same as non-Christians, they just think they're superior.

I am sorry that you feel that way. I cannot remember being nasty to anyone here - even though I have not agreed with them. In fact I found the opposite as some have been name calling to me (at least).

All I can say is that Christians are not perfect - just forgiven. Do you know Him who forgives? I trust that you will.

Oh? Poor damien. Who called you names and what did they call you?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #762 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 4:12pm

damien wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 6:12am:

It doesn't mean a great deal to the 'Christians' on this forum.

If they really, truly believed in heaven and hell, they'd be scared enough to treat God's children like they'd treat Jesus if he were to sign on.

The real Christians who follow the bible to the nth degree are out doing God's work, not cussing at non-Christians and Muslims.

If they really believed the bible stuff, they'd be scared enough to put in a decent effort, these dudes don't even try to act nice, let alone Christ-like.

If they honestly believed they are going to spend all eternity (that's a loooong time) burning in hell, screaming to be freed, in absolute agony watching other people having an absolutely divine existence across the way, they'd be nice. That's not a cool image, they make hell sound very hellish in the bible, the greatest torture one can imagine forever and ever.

I can't think of one so-called Christian on this forum, that would be excused from hell, they're not nice to Gods children, that alone strikes their names off the heaven list, if we are going buy the bible readings, of course.

But then again, there's that all important clause that says "repent and ask for forgiveness" and it's straight up to heaven you go.

It means nothing to be a Christian because they are exactly the same as non-Christians, they just think they're superior.

I am sorry that you feel that way. I cannot remember being nasty to anyone here - even though I have not agreed with them. In fact I found the opposite as some have been name calling to me (at least).

All I can say is that Christians are not perfect - just forgiven. Do you know Him who forgives? I trust that you will.

Is that the one who sends the goodies to hell, but lets the baddies get into heaven? I don't like his style, at all.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #763 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 4:24pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:59am:

No one gets to go to heaven:

that means that longloser has been ripped off by his church but is too stupid to work it out Grin

He did say no intelligent person could find this information out and still believe in heaven.

all thru history we have said the same comment about any variety of things we now take for granted. eg no intelligent person could believe the earth was round...

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #764 - Jan 20^th, 2013 at 4:26pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 20^th, 2013 at 8:59am:

No one gets to go to heaven:

that means that longloser has been ripped off by his church but is too stupid to work it out Grin

He did say no intelligent person could find this information out and still believe in heaven.

there's no money back guarantee on a gold pass to heaven. Once you're dead and you don't get to heaven the people that ripped you off for all of these years are laughing all of the way to the bank Grin

but if I am right then you are dead meat for eternity. Pascals Wager makes it all very clear.

given that I dont find church a burden or boring but instead the opposite, I get all the benefits in this life PLUS the next. and even if there were no afterlife, I still get the benefits accruing in THIS life.

its a win-win situation really.

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