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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #705 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 7:02am

Soren wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

For you, SOB, a lack of mental activity is a permanent state of mind. You are hammering this stupid nonsense about 'lack of belief' as if atheism was a hole in your mental tapestry where other people have some belief.

You have many such holes in your mental tapestry and other people's minds being invisible, you believe that all minds are full of holes and are greatly lacking like yours. This itself is a dirty big hole in your mind, a lack where other people have self-reflection and insight.

Obviously you have nothing to contribute other than abuse

Go away troll

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #706 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 7:04am

damien wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 4:36am:

Soren wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

damien wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Atheists believe that there is no God. So that in itself is a belief.
Of course atheists will deny that, but it's just plain common sense!
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Nope. Some atheists believe there is no diety and some just dont have a belief in a deity.

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any way you cut it. it is still a belief.

Nope. Lack of belief. Do you believe there are no fairies in your garden or do you simply not believe they are there? Or do you believe they are there?

SOB

This is waaaay over your soft head, Nicola.

Lack of belief = having no notion. That's the kinda gal you are.
Not believing = having considered a set of notions (NB!!!! Notions have been considered!) and rejecting a particular attitute towards them, that is, an attitude of taking them to be meaningful.

atheism = lack of belief in a deity

SOB

thats agnosticism you dimwiited moron.

atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God.

i know you dont understand this and probably never will. Truth doesnt alter because your single IQ point cant fathom it.

"atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God"

Exactly what I have been saying, but some atheists cannot accept that it is a belief.

Why cant you understand? For some its a belief and for others its just not a belief. A lack of belief. Do you actually have beliefs about everything anyone has ever made up?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #707 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:13am

damien wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 4:36am:

Soren wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

damien wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Atheists believe that there is no God. So that in itself is a belief.
Of course atheists will deny that, but it's just plain common sense!
Cheesy

Nope. Some atheists believe there is no diety and some just dont have a belief in a deity.

SOB

any way you cut it. it is still a belief.

Nope. Lack of belief. Do you believe there are no fairies in your garden or do you simply not believe they are there? Or do you believe they are there?

SOB

This is waaaay over your soft head, Nicola.

Lack of belief = having no notion. That's the kinda gal you are.
Not believing = having considered a set of notions (NB!!!! Notions have been considered!) and rejecting a particular attitute towards them, that is, an attitude of taking them to be meaningful.

atheism = lack of belief in a deity

SOB

thats agnosticism you dimwiited moron.

atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God.

i know you dont understand this and probably never will. Truth doesnt alter because your single IQ point cant fathom it.

"atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God"

Exactly what I have been saying, but some atheists cannot accept that it is a belief.

nor does it really matter. It is a simple statement of logic that in the absence of compelling proof, the acceptance of any hypothesis is a leap of faith ie a belief. since the existence of God cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt using the observaable methodology then the answer to the question "Do you believe there is a God?" is always a statement of belief.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #708 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:20am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 7:04am:

damien wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 4:36am:

Soren wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

damien wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Atheists believe that there is no God. So that in itself is a belief.
Of course atheists will deny that, but it's just plain common sense!
Cheesy

Nope. Some atheists believe there is no diety and some just dont have a belief in a deity.

SOB

any way you cut it. it is still a belief.

Nope. Lack of belief. Do you believe there are no fairies in your garden or do you simply not believe they are there? Or do you believe they are there?

SOB

This is waaaay over your soft head, Nicola.

Lack of belief = having no notion. That's the kinda gal you are.
Not believing = having considered a set of notions (NB!!!! Notions have been considered!) and rejecting a particular attitute towards them, that is, an attitude of taking them to be meaningful.

atheism = lack of belief in a deity

SOB

thats agnosticism you dimwiited moron.

atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God.

i know you dont understand this and probably never will. Truth doesnt alter because your single IQ point cant fathom it.

"atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God"

Exactly what I have been saying, but some atheists cannot accept that it is a belief.

Why cant you understand? For some its a belief and for others its just not a belief. A lack of belief. Do you actually have beliefs about everything anyone has ever made up?

SOB

when asked, yes. See here is the problem SOB... other people actually THINK. DOnt assume that because your thought processes resemble thos of a pet rock that everybody else is the same.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #709 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:32am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

damien wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 4:36am:

Soren wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

damien wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Atheists believe that there is no God. So that in itself is a belief.
Of course atheists will deny that, but it's just plain common sense!
Cheesy

Nope. Some atheists believe there is no diety and some just dont have a belief in a deity.

SOB

any way you cut it. it is still a belief.

Nope. Lack of belief. Do you believe there are no fairies in your garden or do you simply not believe they are there? Or do you believe they are there?

SOB

This is waaaay over your soft head, Nicola.

Lack of belief = having no notion. That's the kinda gal you are.
Not believing = having considered a set of notions (NB!!!! Notions have been considered!) and rejecting a particular attitute towards them, that is, an attitude of taking them to be meaningful.

atheism = lack of belief in a deity

SOB

thats agnosticism you dimwiited moron.

atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God.

i know you dont understand this and probably never will. Truth doesnt alter because your single IQ point cant fathom it.

"atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God"

Exactly what I have been saying, but some atheists cannot accept that it is a belief.

nor does it really matter. It is a simple statement of logic that in the absence of compelling proof, the acceptance of any hypothesis is a leap of faith ie a belief. since the existence of God cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt using the observaable methodology then the answer to the question "Do you believe there is a God?" is always a statement of belief.

Yes thats right. First time you have ever said anything that makes sense ever. Belief in a god is belief.

Belief in fairies is also a belief.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #710 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:49am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

damien wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 4:36am:

Soren wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

damien wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Atheists believe that there is no God. So that in itself is a belief.
Of course atheists will deny that, but it's just plain common sense!
Cheesy

Nope. Some atheists believe there is no diety and some just dont have a belief in a deity.

SOB

any way you cut it. it is still a belief.

Nope. Lack of belief. Do you believe there are no fairies in your garden or do you simply not believe they are there? Or do you believe they are there?

SOB

This is waaaay over your soft head, Nicola.

Lack of belief = having no notion. That's the kinda gal you are.
Not believing = having considered a set of notions (NB!!!! Notions have been considered!) and rejecting a particular attitute towards them, that is, an attitude of taking them to be meaningful.

atheism = lack of belief in a deity

SOB

thats agnosticism you dimwiited moron.

atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God.

i know you dont understand this and probably never will. Truth doesnt alter because your single IQ point cant fathom it.

"atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God"

Exactly what I have been saying, but some atheists cannot accept that it is a belief.

nor does it really matter. It is a simple statement of logic that in the absence of compelling proof, the acceptance of any hypothesis is a leap of faith ie a belief. since the existence of God cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt using the observaable methodology then the answer to the question "Do you believe there is a God?" is always a statement of belief.

Yes thats right. First time you have ever said anything that makes sense ever. Belief in a god is belief.

Belief in fairies is also a belief.

SOB

as is the BELIEF that there is no God which was the point everyone has been trying to get you to understand.

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damien Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 639 Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #711 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 9:13am Actually some have been saying that they have no belief - good to see that you don't agree with that.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #712 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 10:03am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:49am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

damien wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 4:36am:

Soren wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

damien wrote on Jan 17^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Atheists believe that there is no God. So that in itself is a belief.
Of course atheists will deny that, but it's just plain common sense!
Cheesy

Nope. Some atheists believe there is no diety and some just dont have a belief in a deity.

SOB

any way you cut it. it is still a belief.

Nope. Lack of belief. Do you believe there are no fairies in your garden or do you simply not believe they are there? Or do you believe they are there?

SOB

This is waaaay over your soft head, Nicola.

Lack of belief = having no notion. That's the kinda gal you are.
Not believing = having considered a set of notions (NB!!!! Notions have been considered!) and rejecting a particular attitute towards them, that is, an attitude of taking them to be meaningful.

atheism = lack of belief in a deity

SOB

thats agnosticism you dimwiited moron.

atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God.

i know you dont understand this and probably never will. Truth doesnt alter because your single IQ point cant fathom it.

"atheism is a BELIEF that there is no God"

Exactly what I have been saying, but some atheists cannot accept that it is a belief.

nor does it really matter. It is a simple statement of logic that in the absence of compelling proof, the acceptance of any hypothesis is a leap of faith ie a belief. since the existence of God cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt using the observaable methodology then the answer to the question "Do you believe there is a God?" is always a statement of belief.

Yes thats right. First time you have ever said anything that makes sense ever. Belief in a god is belief.

Belief in fairies is also a belief.

SOB

as is the BELIEF that there is no God which was the point everyone has been trying to get you to understand.

Why cant you understand that not all atheists are the same?

Ahh i see you do understand but you are trolling.

Go away troll.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26576 Australia	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #714 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 10:19am ... wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 10:13am: sigh Yet another thread assimilated by the borg. Nobody is stopping you telling us what it means to be an xtian these days. SOB
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Reply #715 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 10:27am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:13am:

nor does it really matter. It is a simple statement of logic that in the absence of compelling proof, the acceptance of any hypothesis is a leap of faith ie a belief. since the existence of God cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt using the observaable methodology then the answer to the question "Do you believe there is a God?" is always a statement of belief.

ANd so since the non-existence of god cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt using the observational methodology either, the answer to the question "Do you believe there is a God?" is always a statement of belief.

Whether in the affirmative OR the negative or none of the above. The answer, in other words, is always based on a set of beliefs, formulated on the basis of observation.
Since observation is never, ever, the observation of everything, the belief is always based on selective evidence gathering.
SO atheism, in any of its permutations, IS a set of beliefs.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #717 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 1:34pm

Amadd wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 10:36am:

Say it again. Greeks are fat dumb lazy leeching losers.

Rack off back and help your own loser country morons.
You have no idea of democracy for us. Grin

You are all wank wogs, no substance. Roll Eyes

Alright, they're going back already, to live like kings on the Aussie pension. It's sort of funny in a peculiar way. They could sell their house here and buy ten back home, with enough left over for olives and ouzo for the rest of their days.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #718 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 7:55pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 7:02am:

Soren wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

For you, SOB, a lack of mental activity is a permanent state of mind. You are hammering this stupid nonsense about 'lack of belief' as if atheism was a hole in your mental tapestry where other people have some belief.

You have many such holes in your mental tapestry and other people's minds being invisible, you believe that all minds are full of holes and are greatly lacking like yours. This itself is a dirty big hole in your mind, a lack where other people have self-reflection and insight.

Obviously you have nothing to contribute other than abuse

Go away troll

SOB

I have just fooking diagnosed you!! What more do you want by way of contribution?? I can't fooking cure you. There is no cure for what you are having, Nicola.

You are what you are, to coin a phrase. The best you can hope for is being documented and studied. And when the time comes, a post mortem and a few decades in a jar of formaldehyde.
For the benefit of future generation.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #719 - Jan 18^th, 2013 at 8:12pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 18^th, 2013 at 10:03am: Why cant you understand that not all atheists are the same? Ahh i see you do understand but you are trolling. Go away troll. SOB Yeah, you are different, aren't you, Derek.
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