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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #630 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:50am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:30am:
Do you think he was a zombie, spot? Did he eat people?

I think he was a centre left winger, a socialist, the complete opposite of the religious right that 'follow' him. I also think he died and stayed dead, as we do.

Imagine people in 2000 years time when they read the crap we write, they'd think we had millions of gods with the way we worship our sports people and movie stars, and that's when they're alive, they become even more  god-like when they die.

Jesus was just a cool dude. He would have voted for ???? maybe the greens, they're the closest to caring for the poor and downtrodden.


I think he would be appalled @ the right wingedness of society nowadays. There are no "lefties" anymore - well not in australia. He certainly wouldn't approve of those so-called xtians who think anyone unemployed is a "bludger" and want to control their finances for them as punishment. He would send those fake xtians to hell.

I dont think he ate ppl but he may have feasted on brains after his lil 2 day nap.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #631 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:07am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:30am:

I think he was a centre left winger, a socialist, the complete opposite of the religious right that 'follow' him.


I also think he died and stayed dead, as we do.



pansi1951,

Was Jesus 'communist', a leftist,
'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'
?


Jesus' 'daddy' was portrayed in the NT as a property owner, a capitalist.

Matthew 21:33
Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34  And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35  And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36  Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37  But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38  But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39  And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40  When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.





Jesus portrayed himself in a NT parable as a capitalist.

And this was how Jesus portrayed himself in a NT parable; "thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:"

Matthew 25:14
For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
15  And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.
16  Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents.
17  And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two.
18  But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.
19  After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them.
20  And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.
21  His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
22  He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.
23  His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
24  Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
25  And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
26  His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27  Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

28  Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
29  For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
30  And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.i

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:30am:
Imagine people in 2000 years time when they read the crap we write, they'd think we had millions of gods with the way we worship our sports people and movie stars, and that's when they're alive, they become even more  god-like when they die.



LOL

pansi1951,

You are very much closer to truth than you may imagine, imo!!!!!i

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:30am:
Jesus was just a cool dude. He would have voted for ???? maybe the greens, they're the closest to caring for the poor and downtrodden.


LOL!!!!!

Not, in a thousand years!


Why not ?

The Greens are ideologues [like communists are ideologues] i.e. their philosophy is; "The [good] end, justifies the means."

The Greens will refuse to confront truth, to be guided by truth, if truth will not serve their 'communist' agenda.



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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #632 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:09am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:30am:
Jesus was just a cool dude. He would have voted for ???? maybe the greens, they're the closest to caring for the poor and downtrodden.


LOL!!!!!

Not, in a thousand years!


Why not ?

The Greens are ideologues [like communists are ideologues] i.e. their philosophy is; "The [good] end, justifies the means."

The Greens will refuse to confront truth, to be guided by truth, if truth will not serve their 'communist' agenda.










John 18:37
......To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #633 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:18am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:
LOL!!!!!

Not, in a thousand years!

Why not ?

The Greens are ideologues [like communists are ideologues] i.e. their philosophy is; "The [good] end, justifies the means."

The Greens will refuse to confront truth, to be guided by truth, if truth will not serve their 'communist' agenda.




I meant if he was faced with our current dilemma, there's no way he would have voted for Libs or Labs, he would have hardly agreed with any of their policies.

He was like a modern day hippy, so he was definitely a lefty. He probably wouldn't have had a suitable choice, like me. I wonder if he would have voted at all.

He wanted peace on earth, anti war, so that crosses both the major parties off the list. The gay marriage stuff, well! that crosses the greens off the list.

I think he would have written a message on the ballot paper, like I do.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #634 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:33am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:30am:

I think he was a centre left winger, a socialist, the complete opposite of the religious right that 'follow' him.


I also think he died and stayed dead, as we do.



pansi1951,

Was Jesus 'communist', a leftist,
'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'
?


Jesus' 'daddy' was portrayed in the NT as a property owner, a capitalist.

Matthew 21:33
Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34  And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35  And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36  Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37  But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38  But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39  And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40  When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.






In the parable [above] God is portrayed as the 'householder'.

"When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?"




The Christian church today teach that it doesn't matter how you behave, because God is going to forgive everyone, no matter how badly we behave.

All we must do to be righteous, is to attend church, and obey the church hierarchy on doctrine.



Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Matthew 5:13
Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
14  Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15  Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.







John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18  I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19  Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20  At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22  Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
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Reply #635 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:47am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 8:18am:
I meant if he was faced with our current dilemma, there's no way he would have voted for Libs or Labs, he would have hardly agreed with any of their policies.



Yes, well personally, i think that Jesus would NOT be impressed by many of our parliamentarians!





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He was like a modern day hippy, so he was definitely a lefty. He probably wouldn't have had a suitable choice, like me. I wonder if he would have voted at all.


Jesus supported justice and good laws.

God's law.

Jesus was a Torah law observant Jew.

Jesus did not support lawlessness.i

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He wanted peace on earth, anti war, so that crosses both the major parties off the list. The gay marriage stuff, well! that crosses the greens off the list.

I think he would have written a message on the ballot paper, like I do.



Peace on earth is possible, but unlikely, imo.

We won't see peace on earth, not from mankind as it author.

Justice is the father of peace, and truth is the father of justice.

If we want to peace, we must confront, defend, and love truth.

How many men love truth, to their own hurt ?




Ultimately peace will come from God, because peace is simply beyond the 'reach' of mankind.

If we are persons who truly want peace, we must love God, and truth.


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Reply #636 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 5:38pm
 
Yadda,
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If we are persons who truly want peace, we must love God, and truth.


That's what the Mussies say & look how warlike they are.
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Reply #637 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 5:57pm
 
more brains . . . .

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Reply #638 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:07pm
 
Spot - that's blasphemy.

In the middle ages they would have burnt you at the stake.
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Reply #639 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:39pm
 
The time will come, I believe!

Philppians 2
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.
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Reply #640 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 9:54pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:07pm:
Spot - that's blasphemy.

In the middle ages they would have burnt you at the stake.



But today? We just think you are a smacking idiot with no redeeming features like wit or imagination or insight or creativity. Just another godawful smacking plonker. How times change, eh?

Do you feel lucky, pillock? Do you?
You should.



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Reply #641 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:03pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 9:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:07pm:
Spot - that's blasphemy.

In the middle ages they would have burnt you at the stake.



But today? We just think you are a smacking idiot with no redeeming features like wit or imagination or insight or creativity. Just another godawful smacking plonker. How times change, eh?

Do you feel lucky, pillock? Do you?
You should.




Come on Soren - that's a bit hard on Spot but then again -
blasphemy, heresy & withcraft is no small matter.
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Reply #642 - Jan 16th, 2013 at 1:35am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 5:38pm:
Yadda,
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If we are persons who truly want peace, we must love God, and truth.


That's what the Mussies say & look how warlike they are.





bobby,

How can you say that, when you know that it is not true.

"love God, and truth."  ?

Moslems forbid scrutiny of ISLAM.



Dictionary;
scrutiny = = critical observation or examination.



http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1358036737/26#26

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Reply #643 - Jan 16th, 2013 at 5:02am
 
Soren wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 9:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:07pm:
Spot - that's blasphemy.

In the middle ages they would have burnt you at the stake.



But today? We just think you are a smacking idiot with no redeeming features like wit or imagination or insight or creativity. Just another godawful smacking plonker. How times change, eh?

Do you feel lucky, pillock? Do you?
You should.





Awww poor soren disagrees. . . . .Dont you feel silly being a grown up that believes in invisible things controlling your life?

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Reply #644 - Jan 16th, 2013 at 5:37am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 5:57pm:
more brains . . . .

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see this is where christians are fairly tolerant.
try posting that one up(the picture of jesus with the zombie quote) substituting a picture of mohammed
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