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Dec 29th, 2012 at 4:52am
 
I am a member of numerous Internet forums and have been using Internet forums since the 90s and none have ever included such a high minimum post requirement (100) to post links.

I understand having a certain number say "10" to weed out spammers but there is no logical reason to make it 100. All that does it make it next to impossible for new members to debate anyone. Most tech forums don't have a minimum at all and simply use robust registration policies.

Please consider changing this to a more realistic 10, thank you.
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Reply #1 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:00am
 
Poptech wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 4:52am:
I am a member of numerous Internet forums and have been using Internet forums since the 90s and none have ever included such a high minimum post requirement (100) to post links.

I understand having a certain number say "10" to weed out spammers but there is no logical reason to make it 100. All that does it make it next to impossible for new members to debate anyone. Most tech forums don't have a minimum at all and simply use robust registration policies.

Please consider changing this to a more realistic 10, thank you.


The reason is the socks. There are a LOT here. Also bots and spammers. A human gets them in then gets them to the 10 post limit then lets the bot go.

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Reply #2 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:10am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:00am:
The reason is the socks. There are a LOT here. Also bots and spammers. A human gets them in then gets them to the 10 post limit then lets the bot go.

I doubt this as most bots are automated and professional spammers do not waste there time manually doing anything as there is nothing special about these forums. You only have less than 2000 registered members. There are forums with hundreds of thousands of members and they do not have these problems.

If the problem is automated bots then it is a problem with the registration process.

When I see people throwing around technical terms and accusations with no evidence it is not a good sign. You cannot accuse anyone of being a sock puppet unless you can see that their IP is the same as another account. Otherwise you have no evidence and should not be making the accusation.
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Reply #3 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:45am
 
Poptech wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:10am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:00am:
The reason is the socks. There are a LOT here. Also bots and spammers. A human gets them in then gets them to the 10 post limit then lets the bot go.

I doubt this as most bots are automated and professional spammers do not waste there time manually doing anything as there is nothing special about these forums. You only have less than 2000 registered members. There are forums with hundreds of thousands of members and they do not have these problems.

If the problem is automated bots then it is a problem with the registration process.

When I see people throwing around technical terms and accusations with no evidence it is not a good sign. You cannot accuse anyone of being a sock puppet unless you can see that their IP is the same as another account. Otherwise you have no evidence and should not be making the accusation.


Well you are wrong because thats exactly what happens. WTF says they are "professional" anyway?

How would you know the bigger forums dont have the problems? They do.

IPs mean nothing in australia. Most are dynamic. What country are you in? Oh I see a yank. Well things are different in australia.

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Reply #4 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:57am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:45am:
Well you are wrong because thats exactly what happens. WTF says they are "professional" anyway?

How would you know the bigger forums dont have the problems? They do.

IPs mean nothing in australia. Most are dynamic. What country are you in? Oh I see a yank. Well things are different in australia.

I am a member of numerous Australian forums with many more members and none of any such posting policy. The bigger forums deal with bots and spammers without having to restrict members to posting 100 posts before they can post a link.

What are you talking about IPs are dynamic in Australia? There is nothing special about Internet access in Australia.
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Reply #5 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 6:26am
 
Poptech wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:57am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 5:45am:
Well you are wrong because thats exactly what happens. WTF says they are "professional" anyway?

How would you know the bigger forums dont have the problems? They do.

IPs mean nothing in australia. Most are dynamic. What country are you in? Oh I see a yank. Well things are different in australia.

I am a member of numerous Australian forums with many more members and none of any such posting policy. The bigger forums deal with bots and spammers without having to restrict members to posting 100 posts before they can post a link.

What are you talking about IPs are dynamic in Australia? There is nothing special about Internet access in Australia.


I mean what i said. Most aussie ips are dynamic. You dont know what im talking about? Then why did you try to pick argument with me when i was only being helpful?

As for links - well just because you havent experienced it doesnt mean it isnt so. Most forum hosts have to work out whats best for themselves to stop the bots and spammers. I guess they dont consult you first huh?

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Reply #6 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 9:48am
 
We had it set to 10 (or maybe slightly higher) for a while. The bots would get in, post 10 nonsensical posts, then post a link. We have very robust registration processes that updated regularly to keep ahead of the bots. These include the custom anti spam measures you would have come across on registering, which were updated this month.

If you must post a link, put in a few spaces and make people put it back together. That is a lot easier all round than cleaning up after spambots.

I apologise for any inconvenience.
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Reply #7 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 11:05am
 
Why not just gradually increase the number to say 20 or 25 instead of 100? It makes it next to impossible for any new members to have any sort of debate here and I mean no other forum I have seen has any such requirement.
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Reply #8 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 11:26am
 
Because I didn't want to have to delete 30 spam posts. I think I did increase it fairly gradually. 100 works.
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Reply #9 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 3:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 29th, 2012 at 11:26am:
Because I didn't want to have to delete 30 spam posts. I think I did increase it fairly gradually. 100 works.



Sounds fair.

I'd much rather cut & paste a non-clickable link than suffer the spam-bots.

And if someone lasts to 100 posts, you/we will have already worked out what they're like.
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Reply #10 - Dec 30th, 2012 at 4:39am
 
You cannot post a non clickable link.

I you were having problems with a 20-25 post limit (doubt it) then just gradually increase it to 30-40 ect... don't jump to 100. Carefully created ban email lists stop most of the nonsense such as,

*botox*@*.*
*casino*@*.*
*penis*@*.*
*pharma*@*.*
*porn*@*.*
*ringtone*@*.*
*viagra*@*.*
*vids*@*.*
*@*4warding*.*
*@*advert*.*
*@*cash*.*
*@*big*.*
*@*casino*.*
*@*cholesterol*.*
*@*credit*.*
*@*bugger*.*
*@*free*.*
*@*hentai*.*
*@*horney*.*
*@*money*.*
*@*pharmacy*.*
*@*ringtone*.*
*@*russian*.*
*@*sex*.*
*@*shop*.*
*@*viagra*.*
*@*xxx*.*
*@*.by
*@*.cc
*@*.cn
*@*.cz
*@*.de
*@*.fm
*@*.info
*@*.lv
*@*.pl
*@*.ua
*@*.tk
*@*.tv
*@*.ws
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Reply #11 - Dec 30th, 2012 at 5:09am
 
You think you are so knowledgeable about it yet you didnt understand what I was saying. Obviously that list is incomplete and is only good along with other measures.

Also your syntax looks wrong.

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Reply #12 - Dec 30th, 2012 at 5:59am
 
Poptech, can't you write "power to the 99%" and press send, keep at it, over and over and you'd have your 100 posts up in no time.

You're already a quarter of the way there.
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Reply #13 - Dec 30th, 2012 at 6:07am
 
Poptech wrote on Dec 30th, 2012 at 4:39am:
You cannot post a non clickable link.

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Um, here you are....


http://www.ozpolitic.com/for um/YaBB.pl?num=1356720733


C&P, remove the space, and you're away.

A non-clickable link.

Just as FD explained only a few posts earlier....
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Reply #14 - Dec 30th, 2012 at 7:29am
 
You may have to separate out the www bit with a space or something like that. Poptech sounds like he would be able to figure it out. Thanks for the email filter.
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