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Reply #16 - Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 11:57am

... wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 11:46am:

Just post the link bro - I can't find it myself and I'd be interested to see it. I can't very well make an informed choice without it, can I?

Think about this Wesley.
They are saying that babies are born with morality, and they prove this by testing babies who have spent 9 months in a womb and a few months-years outside it.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Babies born with innate bias Reply #17 - Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 12:00pm The link you posted - not the same study.
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Reply #18 - Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 12:10pm

Wesley?

"Does Wesley here, at the ripe old age of 5 months, know the difference between right and wrong?

"Wesley watches as the puppet in the center struggles to open up a box with a toy inside. The puppy in the yellow shirt comes over and lends a hand. Then the scene repeats itself, but this time the puppy in the blue shirt comes and slams the box shut. Nice behavior...mean behavior...at least to our eyes. But is that how a 5-month-old sees it, and does he have a preference?

"Annie: Wesley, do you remember these guys from the show? "To find out, a researcher who doesn't know which puppet was nice and which was mean, offers Wesley a choice.

"Annie: Who do you like?

"He can't answer, but he can reach... (reaches for nice puppet)

"Annie: That one?

"Wesley chose the good guy and he wasn't alone."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57551557/born-good-babies-help-unlock-the-...

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Reply #19 - Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 7:16pm

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Paul Bloom: If you want to eradicate racism, for instance, you really are going to want to know to what extent are babies little bigots, to what extent is racism a natural part of humanity.

Lesley Stahl: Sounds to me like the experiment show they are little bigots.

Paul Bloom: I think to some extent, a bias to favor the self, where the self could be people who look like me, people who act like me, people who have the same taste as me, is a very strong human bias.

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Reply #20 - Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 11:41pm

There is no "Bunk alarm" involved there IMO. It is really just stating the obvious.

Of course similar looking babies will be more attracted to each other.
Is it just per chance that Asian communities, Sudanese commuties, Anglo communities, Aboriginal communties, ..etc. tend to group themselves together? Of course it's no fluke.

There's no going forward until the heads get outta the sky and realise that we actually do have differences and we are not all clones born to work for the machine.

...that calls for a video clip Grin

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: Babies born with innate bias Reply #21 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 5:05am Its BS. Comon. Havent any of you seen any kids? Stick them in a daycare centre and watch them all play with each other and not care what colour each other are. SOB
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Reply #22 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 9:51am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 5:05am:

Its BS. Comon. Havent any of you seen any kids

I've got 2 younger than 4 years old that, naturally, I observe closely. Isn't it funny that those who call it "BS' have none? Isn't it also funny that there's no elaboration, no addressing of the issues raised - just "It's BS".

Reaaal deep thinkers aren't ya? Grin

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Reply #23 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 10:01am

... wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 9:51am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 5:05am:

Its BS. Comon. Havent any of you seen any kids

I've got 2 younger than 4 years old that, naturally, I observe closely. Isn't it funny that those who call it "BS' have none? Isn't it also funny that there's no elaboration, no addressing of the issues raised - just "It's BS".

Reaaal deep thinkers aren't ya? Grin

Why would you say ii have none? In fact a bunch of you (the trolls basically) have been just assuming that since i have been here. Im 50 fer chrissakes. Why would i still have lil kids running around?

I see you didnt actually address my comment though.

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Reply #24 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 10:17am

Even if you did have kids (which you don't) the memory of what they're like would have loooong since disappeared. hell, you demonstrate time and again that you can't remember even 10 minutes ago, let alone 10 years or more.

What's to address - you asked "don't you have kids" and I said yes. I'm aso *a bit* smarter and more observant than you. They do play with "others" but they also display clear aversions and preferences. That hideous black doll on play school elicits a "yuck" every time he comes on screen, and burkha wearing women get the "ugly" and finger pointing treatment. I teach them to hold their tongue and not to be rude, but you can't tell them they're wrong - that they're not ugly, because that would be lying.

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Paki gob on a stick Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103522	Re: Babies born with innate bias Reply #25 - Nov 24^th, 2012 at 9:03pm ... wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 11:15am: And we would believe a schoolchild with no qualifications, expertise or experience over the Yale baby lab.....why? Right on, Honky. Better run it past NYC’s most dangerous callers’ expert panel. There might be a few ontological issues to resolve before publishing.
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Reply #26 - Nov 24^th, 2012 at 9:14pm

Amadd wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 11:41pm:

There is no "Bunk alarm" involved there IMO. It is really just stating the obvious.

Of course similar looking babies will be more attracted to each other.
Is it just per chance that Asian communities, Sudanese commuties, Anglo communities, Aboriginal communties, ..etc. tend to group themselves together? Of course it's no fluke.

There's no going forward until the heads get outta the sky and realise that we actually do have differences and we are not all clones born to work for the machine.

...that calls for a video clip Grin

There’s been a lot of study on this. Toddlers around the age of 3 notice gender before race.

Are you saying the sexes should be segregated because 3 year olds notice gender differences?

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Reply #27 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 5:48am

... wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 10:17am:

Even if you did have kids (which you don't) the memory of what they're like would have loooong since disappeared. hell, you demonstrate time and again that you can't remember even 10 minutes ago, let alone 10 years or more.

What's to address - you asked "don't you have kids" and I said yes. I'm aso *a bit* smarter and more observant than you. They do play with "others" but they also display clear aversions and preferences. That hideous black doll on play school elicits a "yuck" every time he comes on screen, and burkha wearing women get the "ugly" and finger pointing treatment. I teach them to hold their tongue and not to be rude, but you can't tell them they're wrong - that they're not ugly, because that would be lying.

Obviously learned behaviour in your household.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Babies born with innate bias Reply #28 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 11:58am Nope.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 154558 Gender:	Re: Babies born with innate bias Reply #29 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 3:28pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 5:48am: Obviously learned behaviour in your household. Exactly. I pity those poor kids.
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