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Anti-muslim campaigner arrives in Australia
Feb 18th, 2013 at 6:58pm
 
[highlight]http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3689995.htm[/highlight][url][/url]

Having lived in Cronulla during and before the Lebanese riots and witnessing the most blatant racism and violence  by the lebanese during those years that still scar me and my family i guess my views are clear but i was wondering about yours?



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TONY JONES, PRESENTER: Now to our guest.

Geert Wilders is the Dutch anti-immigration and anti-Islam MP. He's the founder of the right wing Party For Freedom.

Next week, Geert Wilders arrives in Australia for a visit that's been a long time in the making. He planned to come here about a year ago and drew early support from Liberal Senator Cory Bernadi who later distanced himself from the idea.

Now he's being sponsored by the anti-Islamic group The Q Society, on a road trip that's sure to fire debate over what constitutes free speech or hate speech.

Geert Wilders joins us now live from The Hague. Thanks for being there.

GEERT WILDERS, LEADER, PARTY FOR FREEDOM: Well, thanks for having me on your show tonight.

TONY JONES: Are you on some sort of global jihad against Islam?

GEERT WILDERS: Indeed. I am more on a global jihad to preserve our freedom. I believe that even though I have nothing against the people or Muslims or anybody for that reason, I believe that Islam and freedom are incompatible. And I believe that the mistakes that we made in Europe in the last decades by allowing so much mass immigration from Islamic countries is a warning that if Australia is not vigilant enough to preserve the freedom, what has happened here might happen to Australia in the next decades as well.

TONY JONES: So very precisely you plan to warn Australian audiences of what you see as the danger of Islamic migration, is that correct?

GEERT WILDERS: Well, yes, I believe that once again, Islam and freedom are incompatible. Islam is according to me, my party, not so much a religion as well as it is a totalitarian ideology. In Islam there is not much room for anything else but Islam.

Look how in societies today where Islam is dominant and prominent, how any non-Islamic person, whether it's a Christian or an apostate or a woman or a critical journalist, how they are treated. This is in a very bad way, often with the death penalty or imprisonment or all those kind of terrible things.

I believe that what with the mass immigration to our free societies, our societies will change, and it will change for the worse. And I'm proud to say you are not a racist or a bigot or anything like that if you say that the Netherlands, as Australia, is a culture based on Christianity, on Judaism, on humanism, and it should not, nor ever will become a society based on Islamic failures. We should fight it, we should stop it, we should be proud of who we are and define what we are not.

TONY JONES: I'm going to pick you up on some of those points in a little while. But what do you actually know in the Islamic community in Australia. What you have heard about what is happening here, and Australian multiculturalism - which it seems to me could be quite different to multiculturalism in Holland?

GEERT WILDERS: Of course that's the case. I'm not saying that it's exactly the same. I know and I also spoke in the United States of America and in Canada and other countries already have good results with immigration, that it cannot be compared everything to Europe.

But I know where we today in Europe have enormous influx of... in the last decades of people from Islamic countries, that our society has changed. That it has worsened for that reason. That unfortunately non-Western immigrants, often Muslims, are over-represented in statistics of crime, of dependency on social benefits, that we have honour killings, that we have genital mutilation, that we have streets where women with headscarves and burqas are not the exception any more. And that it's getting worse.

What I'm trying to do when I visit your beautiful country, Australia, is warn Australians that even though it might not be the case today, learn from the mistakes that we made in Europe: be vigilant and look at Islam for what it really is. Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is a totalitarian ideology.

The best example is that if any person, any Muslim wants to leave Islam, then the penalty is death. It is not even allowed to leave it. That's why I believe Islam should not be compared with other religions like Christianity or Judaism, but Islam should be compared to other totalitarian ideologies like Communism or Fascism.

TONY JONES: I can tell you for sure there are plenty of Islamic people in Australia who've left the religion without being killed. So what you're saying can't be everywhere. Indeed I suspect what you're talking about is Islamic fundamentalism. Why not restrict your arguments to Islamic fundamentalism or radical Islam - Islamism - why do you include in this broad brush moderate Islam?

GEERT WILDERS: (adjusts earpiece) Sorry, I lose you here for a minute, but I think you asked me why...

TONY JONES: I said why don't you exclude from your annoyance, your anger, moderate Islam, which is very different to what you seem to be describing?

GEERT WILDERS: Yes. Well, it's not annoyance or anger. It's just the truth. What you're saying about radical Islam, with all respect to you sir, is complete nonsense. There is no radical or moderate Islam. There is only one Islam and that is the Islam from the Koran, the holy bo
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Reply #1 - Feb 20th, 2013 at 8:19pm
 
Well i guess that proves a point,the lack of response means there is a lot of people in self denial over here and still have no opinion of their own and rely on the first movement from the uk or usa or we are just plain robots of todays society who have never seen war and have no conception of how to deal with enemies let alone recognize one.History has a habit of repeating itself to those who are thick.
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Reply #2 - Feb 20th, 2013 at 8:23pm
 
brumbie wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 8:19pm:
Well i guess that proves a point,the lack of response means there is a lot of people in self denial over here and still have no opinion of their own and rely on the first movement from the uk or usa or we are just plain robots of todays society who have never seen war and have no conception of how to deal with enemies let alone recognize one.History has a habit of repeating itself to those who are thick.



We have
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Contribute to those FFS!!!

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Reply #3 - Feb 20th, 2013 at 8:31pm
 
well f me soren i had no idea that other people had started the same thread after me..i'm just not very important
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Reply #4 - Feb 20th, 2013 at 8:52pm
 
brumbie wrote on Feb 20th, 2013 at 8:31pm:
well f me soren i had no idea that other people had started the same thread after me..i'm just not very important

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