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Reply #30 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:17pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Israel does want peace.

Unfortunately evidence and reality suggests otherwise.
How can peace even be possible when it continues to illegally and militarily occupy Palestinian lands, force millions of innocent people into Nazi style ghettos, kill, torture and completely ruin the lives of an entire society consisting of millions of innocent people.
Lie to yourself if you want but do not lie to others.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #31 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:19pm Israel has a right to exist and it has moral right for us to protect our citizens from attack. This is why your government supports us.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26594 Australia	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #32 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:23pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:19pm: Israel has a right to exist and it has moral right for us to protect our citizens from attack. This is why your government supports us. The palestinians also have the right to exist and to defend themselves from your terrorism. SOB
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Reply #33 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:25pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

Israel has a right to exist and it has moral right for us to protect our citizens from attack.

This is why your government supports us.

Well as much as the Nazis had a right to put your grandparents in a ghetto and whinge like a baby when they try and defend themselves.

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Reply #34 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:47pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Getting too close to peace for Israeli's comfort?

The last thing Israel wants is peace, it's not on their agenda for any time soon.

Long-term peace was within reach before Israeli attack

Israel has chosen to attack Gaza in order to avoid reaching a longer-term peace settlement that was being negotiated with the help of Hamas’ military leader Ahmen Jabari, who was assassinated in an Israeli attack Wednesday, says Israeli activist.

Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin spoke to RT confirming that Ahmen Jabari was involved in peace settlement negotiations with Israel and was due to send Hamas’ version of a peace draft to Baskin on Wednesday evening before he was killed.

RT: So you're saying that a draft of a permanent truce agreement already existed. What went wrong then?

Gershon Baskin: It was initially drafted 8 months ago. It was presented to the Israelis, Hamas, Egyptian intelligence and the UN for deliberation. Both Israelis and Hamas decided not to agree. Over the last months the ceasefires got shorter and shorter and the intensity of the fighting increased. And I decided together with my counterpart in Hamas, we were instrumental in negotiating a prisoner exchange deal that led to freedom of Gilad Shaid, the Israeli soldier held in captivity by Mr. Jabari, we decided to push forward. My Hamas counterpart wrote a new version of the draft and he was presenting it to Hamas leaders. In fact on Wednesday morning he was presenting it to Ahmed Jabari himself. I was supposed to receive later that evening the copy of the draft in Arabic for me to deliver to the Israelis who were waiting for it along with Egyptian intelligence.

RT: What is Israel's endgame here? What are they hoping to achieve?

GB: I don’t know how you define an end game at this point. They stated that the aim is to create deterrence. How do you determine that you created enough deterrence? Is it when you have killed enough people? Destroyed enough of the infrastructure? Destroyed enough buildings? I don’t know how you define it. What we have here is a bigger chance of escalation for a ground operation. We have to recall that Hamas rockets that they shoot into Israel are what we call a statistical weapon. They usually fall into open space, but they can fall onto a school bus, supermarket, apartment building and we can have major casualties. And if it does happen we will have a ground operation.

Read the entire article at:

http://rt.com/news/peace-settlement-hamas-israel-882/

Did he tie the peace plan to one of the rockets and send it over?

Why was he designing peace deals and firing rockets?

Sounds like bollocks.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26594 Australia	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #35 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 1:09pm Israel is just bombing gaza. Its ridiculous. And the "west" are letting this happen. What about "never again"? SOB
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Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza
Reply #36 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:00pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Israel does want peace.

why all the false flag attacks

mossad self inflicted wounds allow more sacrifice

to ancient fire gods here

this is their ancient religion

http://carm.org/christianity/miscellaneous-topics/moloch-ancient-pagan-god-child...

Moloch, the ancient pagan God of child sacrifice.

Moloch was one of the false gods that Israel would worship during its periods of apostasy. This false deity is associated with Ammon in 1 Kings 11:7, "Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the detestable idol of Moab, on the mountain which is east of Jerusalem, and for Molech the detestable idol of the sons of Ammon."

One of the practices of the cult that worshipped Moloch was to sacrifice their children. Of course, this was forbidden by God's word: Lev. 18:21 says, "Neither shall you give any of your offspring to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the Lord." (See also Lev. 18:21; 20:2-5; 2 Kings. 23:10; Jer. 32:35).

In some passages the reference is clearly to a deity to whom human sacrifice was made, particularly in the Valley of Hinnom on the SW of the Jerusalem hill (2 Ki. 23:10; Je. 32:35) at a site known as Topheth (‘fire pit’ in Syriac).1

The ancients would heat this idol up with fire until it was glowing, then they would take their newborn babies, place them on the arms of the idol, and watch them burn to death. I can't help but compare today's abortion massacre to the sacrifice of children by these ancient pagans. In both, innocent life is destroyed for the gain of the parent.

this is their religion

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #37 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:10pm I don't know about anyone else but I want a Moloch Pizza Oven TM
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #38 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:12pm careful what you wish for namaste
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #39 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:18pm it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:12pm: careful what you wish for namaste I wish for Pizza with The Lot + Jalapenos
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #40 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:21pm granted... namaste -:)
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122704 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #41 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:23pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:22am: What about the supposed surgical strikes? Does this look like a precision surgical strike? from CNN. http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/16/world/meast/gaza-israel-strike/index.html?hpt=... I think everyone missed the surgical strike.
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #42 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:26pm [quote author=2A371C2A301C372B261C2F2A242B37430 link=1352948089/40#40 date=1353133284]granted... namaste -:)[/quote] Clocks ticking...
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Reply #43 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:22am:

What about the supposed surgical strikes?

Does this look like a precision surgical strike?

from CNN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/16/world/meast/gaza-israel-strike/index.html?hpt=...

I think everyone missed the surgical strike.

Its pretty scary that people actually believe Israel when they say we only target military etc..

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Israels Most Recent Senseless Violence In Gaza Reply #44 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:28pm do you deny you will experience the pizza again? the said pizza is yours the very next time you desire that idea and put into motion that manifestation and in as much your wish is granted, you're welcome bit of a waste of a wish but freewill namaste -:)
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