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"What's happening to our weather?"
Nov 1st, 2012 at 3:35am
 
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/49616092/#49609832

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Gov. Cuomo (D-NY):  ”There has been a series of extreme weather incidents. That is not a political statement, that is a factual statement. Anyone who says there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns is denying reality.”


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He said, I don’t believe that” this is “the last occurrence we will have.” He told reporters, ”We have a one-hundred year flood every two years now.”

His remarks are worth noting particularly since the 55-year-old governor is widely mentioned as a potential candidate in 2016 or beyond.

Yes, Cuomo didn’t specifically mention global warming, but his entire point was that there is a “new normal” but an old infrastructure, and it’s time to do some serious planning:
You did not have ocean water, salt water, breaching the banks the way you’ve had it in Manhattan, you know, in my lifetime…..

When you start to fill the subway tunnels with salt water—much of the Con Ed equipment is in the tunnels, is underground—when hot electrical equipment hits cold salt water, that is a bad combination. And that is a design flaw, I believe, for our system now, if you anticipate these extreme weather conditions.

Obviously we didn’t when we designed this system. We did not anticipate water coming over the Hudson River, coming over the banks, being five feet deep on the West Side Highway, and filling subway grates and every opening and filling that massive infrastructure we have below ground.

Going forward, I think we do have to anticipate these extreme types of weather patterns. And we have to start to think about how do we redesign the system so this doesn’t happen again. After what happened, what has been happening in the last few years, I don’t think anyone can sit back anymore and say “Well, I’m shocked at that weather pattern.” There is no weather pattern that can shock me at this point. And I think that has to be our attitude. And how do we redesign our system and our infrastructure assuming that?”
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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."
 
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Reply #1 - Nov 1st, 2012 at 3:56am
 


http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=mhee&v=NDRIv4ueXXo

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Another factor under consideration is climate change. Like a baseball player on steroids, our climate system is breaking records at an unnatural pace. And like a baseball player on steroids, it’s the wrong question to ask whether a given home run is “caused” by steroids.

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."
 
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Reply #2 - Nov 1st, 2012 at 4:08am
 
And yet there are lots of ppl who dont want to do anything about it. And theres lots more who think taxing it will help. Actually i doubt taxing it is meant to help its just that they tax everything. Why not the weather. Im not talking about australia - its everyone.

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Reply #3 - Nov 1st, 2012 at 5:46pm
 
Centuries of taxation show us that taxing something does reduce its consumption. If you want to reduce something, tax it.
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Reply #4 - Nov 1st, 2012 at 7:27pm
 
The insurance industry certainly believes in global warming and the occurrence of more extreme weather patterns.
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Climate Change and the Insurance Industry

As the entire eastern seaboard slowly recovers from its lashing by Sandy, insurance companies are bracing for the hurricane’s aftermath and the possibility of another Katrina-scale loss. 

If there’s any major incumbent business with an incentive to publicly acknowledge the risks and costs of climate change, it’s the insurance industry, and especially the re-insurers — mega-corps that backstop individual insurance companies by pooling their risks globally.  These companies can do the math, and what they’ve seen over the last couple of decades is a steady upward trend in both the number of extreme weather events and the resulting insured losses that they’ve been on the hook to cover. 

The situation is well summarized in a new report from Ceres, entitled Stormy Futures for U.S. Property/Casualty Insurers. They suggest that insurers face an existential risk from climate change.

more at:

http://amateurearthling.org/2012/10/30/climate-change-and-the-insurance-industry...
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Reply #5 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 5:42am
 
MOTR wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 5:46pm:
Centuries of taxation show us that taxing something does reduce its consumption. If you want to reduce something, tax it.


Yeah that sure works on alcohol

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Reply #6 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 5:04pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 7:27pm:
The insurance industry certainly believes in global warming and the occurrence of more extreme weather patterns.
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Climate Change and the Insurance Industry

As the entire eastern seaboard slowly recovers from its lashing by Sandy, insurance companies are bracing for the hurricane’s aftermath and the possibility of another Katrina-scale loss. 

If there’s any major incumbent business with an incentive to publicly acknowledge the risks and costs of climate change, it’s the insurance industry, and especially the re-insurers — mega-corps that backstop individual insurance companies by pooling their risks globally.  These companies can do the math, and what they’ve seen over the last couple of decades is a steady upward trend in both the number of extreme weather events and the resulting insured losses that they’ve been on the hook to cover. 

The situation is well summarized in a new report from Ceres, entitled Stormy Futures for U.S. Property/Casualty Insurers. They suggest that insurers face an existential risk from climate change.

more at:

http://amateurearthling.org/2012/10/30/climate-change-and-the-insurance-industry...

The insurance companies are taking advantage because idiots want to get taxed for nothing, so they will cash in because you want to pay more insurance for nothing. Dummies.

Evidence suggests there has been less bad weather events now than in the past.
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Reply #7 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 6:54pm
 
MOTR wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 5:46pm:
Centuries of taxation show us that taxing something does reduce its consumption. If you want to reduce something, tax it.

Reagan said it!
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progressiveslol wrote on Nov 2nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 7:27pm:
The insurance industry certainly believes in global warming and the occurrence of more extreme weather patterns.
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Climate Change and the Insurance Industry

As the entire eastern seaboard slowly recovers from its lashing by Sandy, insurance companies are bracing for the hurricane’s aftermath and the possibility of another Katrina-scale loss. 

If there’s any major incumbent business with an incentive to publicly acknowledge the risks and costs of climate change, it’s the insurance industry, and especially the re-insurers — mega-corps that backstop individual insurance companies by pooling their risks globally.  These companies can do the math, and what they’ve seen over the last couple of decades is a steady upward trend in both the number of extreme weather events and the resulting insured losses that they’ve been on the hook to cover. 

The situation is well summarized in a new report from Ceres, entitled Stormy Futures for U.S. Property/Casualty Insurers. They suggest that insurers face an existential risk from climate change.

more at:

http://amateurearthling.org/2012/10/30/climate-change-and-the-insurance-industry...

The insurance companies are taking advantage because idiots want to get taxed for nothing, so they will cash in because you want to pay more insurance for nothing. Dummies.

Evidence suggests there has been less bad weather events now than in the past.

SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE DOESN'T COUNT!  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Reply #9 - Nov 8th, 2012 at 12:29am
 
MOTR wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 3:35am:
"Anyone who says there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns is denying reality.”


I've never heard anyone say "there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns".

There are changes.  We all know that.

However, there's no credible evidence to support AGW.

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Reply #10 - Nov 8th, 2012 at 4:15am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2012 at 12:29am:
MOTR wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 3:35am:
"Anyone who says there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns is denying reality.”


I've never heard anyone say "there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns".

There are changes.  We all know that.

However, there's no credible evidence to support AGW.



Maybe. Maybe not. Wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution? Who wants to live in the sewer?

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Reply #11 - Nov 8th, 2012 at 4:21am
 
this is the scientific fact unto that which is happening

to your weather...



Solar System Shift

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Reply #12 - Nov 8th, 2012 at 9:55am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 8th, 2012 at 4:15am:
Maybe. Maybe not. Wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution? Who wants to live in the sewer?

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Yep.  I have no problem with erring on the side of caution. 

I have a problem with scaremongering based on dubious "science".


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Reply #13 - Nov 8th, 2012 at 4:41pm
 
MOTR wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 5:46pm:
Centuries of taxation show us that taxing something does reduce its consumption. If you want to reduce something, tax it.

If it moves................................................  Wink Wink
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Reply #14 - Nov 8th, 2012 at 4:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 8th, 2012 at 12:29am:
I've never heard anyone say "there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns".

There are changes.
  We all know that.

However, there's no credible evidence to support AGW.


How do you quantify those rates of change if you don't believe in science??

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