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Reply #15 - Oct 26th, 2012 at 7:00pm
 
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hence a greater access of little  bums to root


Hang em & hang em high.


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Reply #16 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 7:59am
 
The NSW government must start to be transparent and call a Royal Commission today. What are they afraid of? that politicians will be exposed as well as clergy?
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Police officer challenges NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell for inquiry into abuse by clergy

A SENIOR police investigator has publicly challenged NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell to launch a royal commission into child sex abuse by clergy, saying the premier is lucky his own children haven't become victims too.

Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox, who has investigated clergy abuse around Newcastle for decades, wrote an open letter to the premier and then criticised the state government's continued failure to launch a judicial inquiry on national television.

"We're lucky. We haven't had to go through what some of those other families have gone through," he told ABC's Lateline last night, noting that Mr O'Farrell is the father of two boys.

"He has a lot of thanks to give that his boys were never ever abused. ... If he has any compassion and humanity for some of these victims, he's got to turn around (his position)."

The comments came after the senior officer published an open letter stating that there are so many NSW sex abuse cases that he's actually lost count.

"I can testify from my own experience that the church covers up, silences victims, hinders police investigations, alerts offenders, destroys evidence and moves priests to protect the good name of the church," he wrote in his letter.

"Mr O'Farrell, please don't block your ears. Many priests don't want a royal commission, nor does the hierarchy of the church, but God knows we need one."

Det Chief Insp Fox said he has "irrefutable" evidence of a cover-up involving a number of diocese bishops.

"It potentially goes even higher than that," he told Lateline.

http://www.news.com.au/national/officer-challenges-nsw-premier-for-inquiry/story...
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Reply #17 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:07am
 
How come these pricks are above the law ??

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Catholic Church allegedly hid crimes of paedophile priests

A senior serving police officer, Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox, claims the Catholic church covered up crimes of paedophile priests, silenced investigations and destroyed crucial evidence to avoid prosecutions in the Newcastle-Hunter area of New South Wales.

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TONY JONES, PRESENTER: Tonight a senior serving police officer alleges the Catholic Church covers up crimes of paedophile priests, silences investigations and destroys crucial evidence to avoid prosecutions.

Detective chief inspector Peter Fox has spent more than 30 years as an investigator and has been at the centre of major police operations in the Newcastle-Hunter area of New South Wales.

He's written a letter to the Premier, Barry O'Farrell, calling for a Royal Commission.

Mirroring police evidence given to the Victorian inquiry, he says in his letter, "Many police are frustrated by this sinister behaviour which will continue until someone stops it."

Well coming up in our interview tonight, Peter Fox will reveal much more of what he describes as a network protecting paedophile priests.

First, this report by Suzanne Smith.

SUZANNE SMITH, REPORTER: Detective chief inspector Peter Fox spoke at a rally of victims and their families in Newcastle last September.

PETER FOX, NSW POLICE (Sept. 2012): I've been on the police force for 34 years. I'm not a kid that just joined yesterday. I've been involved in investigating the clergy for about 20 of those. There are very good reasons, let me tell you, that we need a Royal Commission.

SUZANNE SMITH: To understand the enormity of the abuse in this one small area of NSW, you need only to look at the statistics for the Newcastle-Maitland Diocese:

Newcastle-Maitland has 400 known victims of child sexual abuse by clergy.

11 clergy have been charged and convicted since 1995.

Six catholic teachers have been convicted.

Three priests on trial at the moment.

For the first time ever a priest was charged this year with concealing the crimes of another.

12 priests involved in substantial compensation claims.

And, it had the highest known compensation payout to a victim, the amount of $3 million.

And today, two police strike forces are investigating whether Church officials were involved in covering up crimes.

Not all the clergy are fully cooperating with police.

But the Premier, Barry O'Farrell, has repeatedly said the police have the investigation under control.

BARRY O'FARRELL, NSW PREMIER: I'm not interested in a made-for-TV moment announcing a Royal Commission. I'm interested in getting people to pay the penalty of the abuse of children, the taking from young people their future.

SUZANNE SMITH: But Peter Fox believes police prosecutions on their own cannot deal with the Church structures and systems for reporting abuse.

PETER FOX (Sept. 2012): I don't accept Mr O'Farrell's comment that the police force has it all under control.

SUZANNE SMITH: Peter Fox was responsible for the conviction of the paedophile priest Father Jim Fletcher.

In 2003, the NSW Ombudsman launched an investigation after a victim's mother complained about why Father Fletcher had not been stood down by the Church and removed from contact with children during the police investigation.

The NSW Ombudsman's office produced a report in 2004 that was highly critical of the Catholic Church's reporting systems. The Catholic Church received a copy of that report, but the victim's mother did not. Peter Fox is calling on the Ombudsman's office to release that report to the public in the interests of transparency.

A spokeswoman for the Ombudsman says the report cannot be released due to privacy provisions in the Act.

Peter Fox also encountered alleged serious issues of cover-up in his investigation of Father Denis McAlinden. The priest had arrived in Australia from Ireland in 1949 and for four decades he was transferred from parish to parish and even outside Australia to New Zealand, Papua New Guinea and the United Kingdom.

This NSW Department of Public Prosecutions is now looking at whether McAlinden's crimes were covered up by three senior members of the clergy, including the general secretary of the Australian Catholics Bishops Conference, Brian Lucas, the Archbishop of Adelaide, Philip Wilson and former Bishop of Newcastle, Michael Malone.

Detective chief inspector Peter Fox was in the middle of investigating this matter in 2010 when he was directed to hand over all his evidence to other officers, including a statement from a critical witness:

PETER FOX (Sept. 2012): I sat down with that woman I think for about seven three, four hour sessions and typed up a statement. And let me tell you, it's explosive. And the material I put together and finally when I did contact the Police Department, I was directed to hand that statement over to other people, cease my investigations on that matter and to hand over other documents.

SUZANNE SMITH: Lateline asked NSW Premier O'Farrell for a specific response to Peter Fox's letter to him. His spokesman released this statement:

SPOKESMAN FOR NSW PREMIER BARRY O'FARRELL (male voiceover): "... Police investigations are ongoing and he won't interfere with that ... the best result is successful prosecutions and no-one should keep these offences secret ...".

SUZANNE SMITH: Suzanne Smith, Lateline.


http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3629020.htm

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Reply #18 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:10am
 
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Studio interview with Senior NSW Detective Peter Fox

Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox, a 30-year veteran with the NSW police force, alleges a cover-up by the Catholic church into child sexual abuse and is calling for a Royal Commission.


http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3629022.htm

Hey Verge, longloser, Quantum - the priest was only doing his job right !!

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PETER FOX: Oh, Tony, I think most people would be absolutely crumpled up in tears to hear it. Just some examples of what I've sat and listened to is that one young boy at the hands of paedophile priest James Fletcher, he was 12 years of age when the priest drove to a secluded park outside of Maitland. He told the boy to remove his pants and the boy was totally unaware of what was going on and quite embarrassed, but that particular priest anally penetrated him.

The boy wasn't aware at that stage that his anus had been torn and he started bleeding. He was screaming in agony on the seat and his knuckles were turning white. And as the priest continued to thrust while he screamed, he said he focused on the St Christopher's Cross on the dashboard and watched it swaying back and forward to try and take his focus off the pain.

The priest never relented at any stage during that, and even after the act was completed, he was totally uncaring for the child and simply sat back in the driver's seat and had a cigarette while he finished sobbing.


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Reply #19 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:17am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:07am:
How come these pricks are above the law ??



The police force are either taking hush money or they are involved too. To expose the church would be to expose themselves and probably other government officials as well.

Why else would the police force choose to sweep such allegations under the carpet?
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Reply #20 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:33am
 
mutation wrote on Oct 26th, 2012 at 6:53pm:
Why are Catholics worse if they are? Celibacy would be the most likely culprit followed by Catholic families having more children hence a greater access of little  bums to root, add the whole catholic guilt, Papal Infalability and tendency to melieve the church knows best!
It would be interesting to find the breakdown of boys and girls or both raped by each denomination of religious dicks!


I read a study only a few months back, and it stated that in many cases the pedo's are so predispositioned to their illness from an early age in late teens etc (its not something that creeps up on them) that they actually seek employment that will give them access to children, however they do it more sub consciously than consciously.

Thats why professions like the preisthood, teachers and youth workers have the highest percentage of abusers from OUTSIDE THE FAMILY.

Sadly the family is still the highest percentage of abusers.

So if your Uncle is a catholic priest, you fukked.
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Reply #21 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:36am
 
Verge wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:33am:
I read a study only a few months back, and it stated that in many cases the pedo's are so predispositioned to their illness from an early age in late teens etc (its not something that creeps up on them) that they actually seek employment that will give them access to children, however they do it more sub consciously than consciously.

They why professions like the preisthood, teachers and youth workers have the highest percentage of abusers from OUTSIDE THE FAMILY.

Sadly the family is still the highest percentage of abusers.

So if your Uncle is a catholic priest, you fukked.


the difference is if joe average gets caught fiddling up kids then he usually goes to jail but that law apparently doesn't apply to pedos in church institutions !!

How come ??
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Reply #22 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:45am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:36am:
the difference is if joe average gets caught fiddling up kids then he usually goes to jail but that law apparently doesn't apply to pedos in church institutions !!

How come ??

Why you asking me?
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Reply #23 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:47am
 

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:36am:
Sadly the family is still the highest percentage of abusers.

So if your Uncle is a catholic priest, you fukked.


The only difference is your uncle will be charged when you dob to the cops, the priest will not.
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Reply #24 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:47am
 
Verge wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:45am:
Why you asking me?


you seem to be defending them. How come ?
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Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:47am:
you seem to be defending them. How come ?


Where was I defending them?

I was merely sharing information I have read about the psychology of the offender.

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Reply #26 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:52am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:47am:
The only difference is your uncle will be charged when you dob to the cops, the priest will not.


The scary thing about the research was only about half of all cases are reported.

I will have to see if I can find it, it was an Australian government paper.  Some really disturbing findings.
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Reply #27 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
Verge wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:50am:
Where was I defending them?

I was merely sharing information I have read about the psychology of the offender.



you were implying that it's ok for pedo priest to offend because others do it.

Two wrongs don't make a right !!
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Reply #28 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 10:02am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 9:58am:
you were implying that it's ok for pedo priest to offend because others do it.

Two wrongs don't make a right !!

I didnt say that at all you liar.

I was merely pointing out that Pedos seek employment that puts them in contact with children, and this explains the high offending rate.

Why would I defend anyone that does that you sick fukk.
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Reply #29 - Nov 9th, 2012 at 10:14am
 
Verge wrote on Nov 9th, 2012 at 10:02am:
I didnt say that at all you liar.

I was merely pointing out that Pedos seek employment that puts them in contact with children, and this explains the high offending rate.

Why would I defend anyone that does that you sick fukk.


you're always defending your catholic mates so you bugger off.

your arguments are red herrings anyway. It doesn't change the fact that certain sections of the community get special  treatment by the law and authorities Sad
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