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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to boycott 2GB and all its sponsors. Reply #90 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:21pm Are you purposely being obtuse, progs, or are you just missing the point.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Time to boycott 2GB and all its sponsors. Reply #91 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:22pm MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:21pm: Are you purposely being obtuse, progs, or are you just missing the point. Maybe you had better come up with a different point. A starting point is not to think people are indoctrinated or can be as you have been, if that is at all possible.
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Reply #92 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:28pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

Are you purposely being obtuse, progs, or are you just missing the point.

Maybe you had better come up with a different point. A starting point is not to think people are indoctrinated or can be as you have been, if that is at all possible.

How about you tell us the point you think rabbitoh is making. That way we can see if you have missed the point. At the moment your arguments don't make sense.

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Reply #93 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:40pm

I see the confusionalists have turned this thread into another " the climate is not getting warmer" lie. How dumb are these dicks? They believe the word of a cross dressing delusional old fart over that of the overwhelming majority of the worlds scientific community, dumbfvcks pure and simple dumbfvcks, they shouldn't be allowed to breed.

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Reply #94 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:48pm

skippy. wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

I see the confusionalists have turned this thread into another " the climate is not getting warmer" lie. How dumb are these dicks? They believe the word of a cross dressing delusional old fart over that of the overwhelming majority of the worlds scientific community, dumbfvcks pure and simple dumbfvcks, they shouldn't be allowed to breed.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50280

Global Warming Stopped 16 Years Ago

The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week. The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare, and, until today, it has not been reported. This stands in sharp contrast to the release of the previous figures six months ago, which went only to the end of 2010 – a very warm year.—David Rose, Mail on Sunday, 14 October 2012

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Reply #95 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:54pm

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According to the Daily Mail on October 13, UK Met Office data showed global warming stopped 16 years ago. Not so, said Met Office one day later.

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If you were engaging in social media this past weekend, you might have found an October 13, 2012 article suggesting that global warming stopped 16 years ago. The article is here. David Rose of the Daily Mail wrote it. The article says the UK Met Office sent out a news release release saying its data showed that global warming has stopped and that there is no “discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.” It now comes to light that this information is not true. The UK Met Office did not release a statement suggesting that “global warming stopped 16 years ago.” The UK Met Office, in fact, disavows any association with Mr. Rose and his article and says it was never asked any questions regarding the actual science of climate change and global warming by Mr. Rose. On October 14, 2012 – one day after Mr. Rose’s article appeared in the Daily Mail – the UK Met Office released its own blog post discussing the issues with the Daily Mail article. It’s very interesting reading.

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october...

Honestly, bambu, does it look like the decade 2000-2010 (red bars) is cooler than the previous decade 1990-1999(orange bars). It's time to boycott media that deliberately distorts the truth.

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Reply #96 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 2:42pm

bambu wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:48pm:

skippy. wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

I see the confusionalists have turned this thread into another " the climate is not getting warmer" lie. How dumb are these dicks? They believe the word of a cross dressing delusional old fart over that of the overwhelming majority of the worlds scientific community, dumbfvcks pure and simple dumbfvcks, they shouldn't be allowed to breed.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50280

Global Warming Stopped 16 Years Ago

The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week. The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare, and, until today, it has not been reported. This stands in sharp contrast to the release of the previous figures six months ago, which went only to the end of 2010 – a very warm year.—David Rose, Mail on Sunday, 14 October 2012

Thank you for confirming my assertions that confusionalists who deny climate change are total dumbasses that should be banned from breeding, bambi.

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Reply #97 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 3:45pm

stryder wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 6:21am:

I guess some lefties have got nothing better to do than continue there little jihad against alan jones which is showing that it is somewhat backfiring against them

A stat - revealed the other day - showed that Gloria's audience is less than the Al Jazeera news service on ABC24

Just a lot of old biddies and silly old coots in the vilest of Sydney's western ghettos

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Reply #98 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 3:49pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 3:45pm:

stryder wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 6:21am:

I guess some lefties have got nothing better to do than continue there little jihad against alan jones which is showing that it is somewhat backfiring against them

A stat - revealed the other day - showed that Gloria's audience is less than the Al Jazeera news service on ABC24

Just a lot of old biddies and silly old coots in the vilest of Sydney's western ghettos

ABC 24 Disgusting Old Poo pushers from Dalesford Grin

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Reply #99 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 3:56pm

bambu wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:48pm:

skippy. wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:

I see the confusionalists have turned this thread into another " the climate is not getting warmer" lie. How dumb are these dicks? They believe the word of a cross dressing delusional old fart over that of the overwhelming majority of the worlds scientific community, dumbfvcks pure and simple dumbfvcks, they shouldn't be allowed to breed.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50280

Global Warming Stopped 16 Years Ago

The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week. The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare, and, until today, it has not been reported. This stands in sharp contrast to the release of the previous figures six months ago, which went only to the end of 2010 – a very warm year.—David Rose, Mail on Sunday, 14 October 2012

Why the Mail on Sunday was wrong to claim global warming has stopped

Tuesday 16 October 2012

Newspaper's claim that 'world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago' is simply wrong, says Met Office

The British newspaper the Mail on Sunday and its writer David Rose are notorious for publishing misleading (at best) climate-related articles, as we have discussed previously here, for example. They have recently struck again, claiming that according to a "quietly released" Met Office report, global warming stopped 16 years ago (a myth which Skeptical Science debunks here and here). This assertion is entirely fabricated, as the Met Office explained by publishing David Rose's inquiry and the Met Office's responses.

"Firstly, the Met Office has not issued a report on this issue. We can only assume the article is referring to the completion of work to update the HadCRUT4 global temperature dataset compiled by ourselves and the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit.

We announced that this work was going on in March and it was finished this week. You can see the HadCRUT4 website here."

Rose's factually challenged article was predictably reproduced uncritically by the usual climate denial blogs and referenced by Fox News, perhaps in an attempt to distract from this year's record-breaking Arctic sea ice minimum. However, virtually every point made in the article was factually incorrect, as Rose would have known if he were a Skeptical Science reader, because we recently pre-bunked his piece.

Rose attempted to elicit a statement from the Met Office by asking a question which would be described in court as "leading the witness":

"First, please confirm that they do indeed reveal no warming trend since 1997."

The Skeptical Science temperature trend calculator can be used to test this question. The trend in the HadCRUT4 global surface temperature dataset since 1997 is 0.084 ± 0.152°C per decade (although we have not yet updated the HadCRUT4 data, the GISS and NCDC datasts show a similar warming trend since 1997). While the trend is not statistically significant, the central value is positive, meaning the average surface temperature has most likely warmed over this period.

The Met Office also explained that Rose is essentially trying to go down the up escalator (Figure 1) by focusing on short-term noise while ignoring the long-term trend.

"Over the last 140 years global surface temperatures have risen by about 0.8ºC. However, within this record there have been several periods lasting a decade or more during which temperatures have risen very slowly or cooled. The current period of reduced warming is not unprecedented and 15 year long periods are not unusual."

Continued ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/16/daily-mail-global-warming-stop...

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Reply #100 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:24pm

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

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According to the Daily Mail on October 13, UK Met Office data showed global warming stopped 16 years ago. Not so, said Met Office one day later.

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If you were engaging in social media this past weekend, you might have found an October 13, 2012 article suggesting that global warming stopped 16 years ago. The article is here. David Rose of the Daily Mail wrote it. The article says the UK Met Office sent out a news release release saying its data showed that global warming has stopped and that there is no “discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.” It now comes to light that this information is not true. The UK Met Office did not release a statement suggesting that “global warming stopped 16 years ago.” The UK Met Office, in fact, disavows any association with Mr. Rose and his article and says it was never asked any questions regarding the actual science of climate change and global warming by Mr. Rose. On October 14, 2012 – one day after Mr. Rose’s article appeared in the Daily Mail – the UK Met Office released its own blog post discussing the issues with the Daily Mail article. It’s very interesting reading.

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october...

http://en.es-static.us/upl/2012/10/warmest_years_on_record.png

Honestly, bambu, does it look like the decade 2000-2010 (red bars) is cooler than the previous decade 1990-1999(orange bars). It's time to boycott media that deliberately distorts the truth.

What you have is a graph full of homogenization and bias. This part of the temp record will eventually be fixed once the ideologues get thrown to the gutter where they belong.

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Reply #101 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:43pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

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According to the Daily Mail on October 13, UK Met Office data showed global warming stopped 16 years ago. Not so, said Met Office one day later.

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If you were engaging in social media this past weekend, you might have found an October 13, 2012 article suggesting that global warming stopped 16 years ago. The article is here. David Rose of the Daily Mail wrote it. The article says the UK Met Office sent out a news release release saying its data showed that global warming has stopped and that there is no “discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.” It now comes to light that this information is not true. The UK Met Office did not release a statement suggesting that “global warming stopped 16 years ago.” The UK Met Office, in fact, disavows any association with Mr. Rose and his article and says it was never asked any questions regarding the actual science of climate change and global warming by Mr. Rose. On October 14, 2012 – one day after Mr. Rose’s article appeared in the Daily Mail – the UK Met Office released its own blog post discussing the issues with the Daily Mail article. It’s very interesting reading.

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october...

http://en.es-static.us/upl/2012/10/warmest_years_on_record.png

Honestly, bambu, does it look like the decade 2000-2010 (red bars) is cooler than the previous decade 1990-1999(orange bars). It's time to boycott media that deliberately distorts the truth.

What you have is a graph full of homogenization and bias. This part of the temp record will eventually be fixed once the ideologues get thrown to the gutter where they belong.

wrong ... what he has is an ongoing debate with a moron ....

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Reply #102 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:46pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

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According to the Daily Mail on October 13, UK Met Office data showed global warming stopped 16 years ago. Not so, said Met Office one day later.

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If you were engaging in social media this past weekend, you might have found an October 13, 2012 article suggesting that global warming stopped 16 years ago. The article is here. David Rose of the Daily Mail wrote it. The article says the UK Met Office sent out a news release release saying its data showed that global warming has stopped and that there is no “discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.” It now comes to light that this information is not true. The UK Met Office did not release a statement suggesting that “global warming stopped 16 years ago.” The UK Met Office, in fact, disavows any association with Mr. Rose and his article and says it was never asked any questions regarding the actual science of climate change and global warming by Mr. Rose. On October 14, 2012 – one day after Mr. Rose’s article appeared in the Daily Mail – the UK Met Office released its own blog post discussing the issues with the Daily Mail article. It’s very interesting reading.

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october...

http://en.es-static.us/upl/2012/10/warmest_years_on_record.png

Honestly, bambu, does it look like the decade 2000-2010 (red bars) is cooler than the previous decade 1990-1999(orange bars). It's time to boycott media that deliberately distorts the truth.

What you have is a graph full of homogenization and bias. This part of the temp record will eventually be fixed once the ideologues get thrown to the gutter where they belong.

wrong ... what he has is an ongoing debate with a moron ....

best you stop then.

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Reply #103 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:56pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

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According to the Daily Mail on October 13, UK Met Office data showed global warming stopped 16 years ago. Not so, said Met Office one day later.

Quote:

If you were engaging in social media this past weekend, you might have found an October 13, 2012 article suggesting that global warming stopped 16 years ago. The article is here. David Rose of the Daily Mail wrote it. The article says the UK Met Office sent out a news release release saying its data showed that global warming has stopped and that there is no “discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.” It now comes to light that this information is not true. The UK Met Office did not release a statement suggesting that “global warming stopped 16 years ago.” The UK Met Office, in fact, disavows any association with Mr. Rose and his article and says it was never asked any questions regarding the actual science of climate change and global warming by Mr. Rose. On October 14, 2012 – one day after Mr. Rose’s article appeared in the Daily Mail – the UK Met Office released its own blog post discussing the issues with the Daily Mail article. It’s very interesting reading.

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october...

http://en.es-static.us/upl/2012/10/warmest_years_on_record.png

Honestly, bambu, does it look like the decade 2000-2010 (red bars) is cooler than the previous decade 1990-1999(orange bars). It's time to boycott media that deliberately distorts the truth.

What you have is a graph full of homogenization and bias. This part of the temp record will eventually be fixed once the ideologues get thrown to the gutter where they belong.

wrong ... what he has is an ongoing debate with a moron ....

best you stop then.

see, you can't even get that right .... scroll through the pages and show me an ongoing debate between me and MOTR .... moron

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Reply #104 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:00pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:56pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

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According to the Daily Mail on October 13, UK Met Office data showed global warming stopped 16 years ago. Not so, said Met Office one day later.

Quote:

If you were engaging in social media this past weekend, you might have found an October 13, 2012 article suggesting that global warming stopped 16 years ago. The article is here. David Rose of the Daily Mail wrote it. The article says the UK Met Office sent out a news release release saying its data showed that global warming has stopped and that there is no “discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.” It now comes to light that this information is not true. The UK Met Office did not release a statement suggesting that “global warming stopped 16 years ago.” The UK Met Office, in fact, disavows any association with Mr. Rose and his article and says it was never asked any questions regarding the actual science of climate change and global warming by Mr. Rose. On October 14, 2012 – one day after Mr. Rose’s article appeared in the Daily Mail – the UK Met Office released its own blog post discussing the issues with the Daily Mail article. It’s very interesting reading.

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october...

http://en.es-static.us/upl/2012/10/warmest_years_on_record.png

Honestly, bambu, does it look like the decade 2000-2010 (red bars) is cooler than the previous decade 1990-1999(orange bars). It's time to boycott media that deliberately distorts the truth.

What you have is a graph full of homogenization and bias. This part of the temp record will eventually be fixed once the ideologues get thrown to the gutter where they belong.

wrong ... what he has is an ongoing debate with a moron ....

best you stop then.

see, you can't even get that right .... scroll through the pages and show me an ongoing debate between me and MOTR .... moron

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