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Reply #60 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:19am

bambu wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:15am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 8:58am:

The problem with these lefty dictators is that they dont like jones giving people the other side of the debate in such a way that they may get it.

You cant control the people if you have alan jones types on the radio.

on one hand you have every major scientific organisation arguing the science .... and on the other you have crackpot Alan arguing against the science .... progs your an idiot to even think he presents 'another side of the debate' ..... all the major scientific bodies agree that there is no debate ...

Really, not according to the congaline of scientists Alan Jones has intervewed on his show over the last few years...the podcasts are on his 2GB page.

Oh, and sea levels fell last year...so much for having to build a 'beach house in the Blue Mountains'.

All or most Central Coast councils have now cancelled the 'warnings/notations' or whatever they had on properties...about rising sea levels and the 'climate change/global warming permanent floods' that were claimed to be going to happen.

rubbish ... you get independent wannabe scientists who take a small snippet of the evidence, an anomaly, and go on and on about that just so they can suit there own agenda .... with something with as many variables as climate, of course there are anomalies to the general trend ... but the overall trend is uncontested ... the planet is warming ... just about every major scientific organisation cannot be wrong ....

if every major hospital told you the best treatment was xxxx and showed you their evidence to support their claim, and some unknown doctor came and said they were all wrong, the best option is YYYY with a little anecdotal evidence to support his claim who would you listen too? I'm betting it wouldn't be the unknown doctor .... the best advice anyone can give you is to LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS ....

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #61 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:21am

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

If you don't like his show don't listen to it.....The only time I ever hear about Alan Jones is when he makes a huge blunder or from his fan club on the Internet.....This campaign against him seams more motivated against Jones personality and political views than any offence he has caused.....I am over Alan Jones already!!!

Roll Eyes

On an ABC tv program, or at the ACMA inquiry into him, or somewhere else in the couple of days before his show yesterday morning, he was blamed again for starting the 'Cronulla Riots'.
He was fired up about that in his show yesterday as well, and played a montage of segments from his show from the Thursday morning before that weekend, where he repeatedly urged 'boys' [a text message was circulating urging the 'boys' to arrive at Cronulla beach the following Sunday to 'take revenge' for the bashing by Middle Eastern thugs of the two junior lifeguards the weekend before, one receiving a fractured eye socket.
"Come on boys, you can't be doing that, that'd be making us like them, let the police handle it" etc he said.
He even had Premier Iemma, remember him?...on the show backing up his call for no viligantes to take the law into their own hands.
Don't think 'the boys' were listeners of his.

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Reply #62 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:21am

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

If you don't like his show don't listen to it.....The only time I ever hear about Alan Jones is when he makes a huge blunder or from his fan club on the Internet.....This campaign against him seams more motivated against Jones personality and political views than any offence he has caused.....I am over Alan Jones already!!!

Roll Eyes

Deliberately spreading falsehoods and downplaying the risks of global warming is playing with fire. We have at best a decade to act. We can't afford to have broadcasters deliberately confusing the public. Companies who want to align themselves with this type of behaviour will face commercial consequences.

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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bambu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1084 Gender:	Re: Time to boycott 2GB and all its sponsors. Reply #63 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:23am http://www.climatedepot.com/a/17777/Sea-Level-Fall-Defies-Climate-Warnings-Avg-s... Sea Level Fall Defies Climate Warnings: 'Avg. sea levels fell by 5mm in 2011' Read the Full Article
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Reply #64 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:25am

bambu wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:23am:

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/17777/Sea-Level-Fall-Defies-Climate-Warnings-Avg-s...

Sea Level Fall Defies Climate Warnings: 'Avg. sea levels fell by 5mm in 2011' Read the Full Article

Your link doesn't seem to work.

You do understand the difference between natural variation and trend? I trust you understand that no scientist expects these changes to be monotonic.

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The 2011 La Niña, one of the strongest in recent decades, absorbed so much moisture from the oceans and dropped it as precipitation over northern parts of Australia and South America that global mean sea levels fell by about half a centimeter. That was the key point that Eric Lindstrom, an oceanographer based at NASA headquarters, made today while giving a presentation.

http://wiki.nasa.gov/cm/blog/whatonearth/posts/post_1323211578062.html

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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bambu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1084 Gender:	Re: Time to boycott 2GB and all its sponsors. Reply #65 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:32am Of course there's climate change, ice ages come and go, the planet heats up the planet cools. Uluru was once at the bottom of the ocean? People could once walk from Australia to India? It's 'man-made' climate change that's the so called problem today.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Time to boycott 2GB and all its sponsors. Reply #66 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:34am How stupid MOTR You call for a boycott of 2GB for a comment by Jones made at Gillard Yet on a scale of things - you have not called for a boycott of the PM who have destroyed lives in Australia
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Reply #67 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:35am

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:33am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

bambu wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:18am:

Nah, just asking some simple questions.

Is carbon dioxide a pollutant?

In the correct usage nothing is a pollutant but when in excess almost anything can be considered to be polluting.

The US EPA's finding doesn't say carbon dioxide, or CO2, is by itself a pollutant. Rather, it is the increasing concentrations of the gas that makes it a hazard to human health.

I don't care what you want to call it, increasing atmospheric CO2 is a hazard to human health. It places our well being at risk and places in jeopardy the well being of our children.

And we know the idiots who are following the epa.

Agenda driven policy, who would have guessed.

Anyway, I thought you were all pseudo sciencecy, now you are following a government agency.

That about sums up progs' argument. The world's not warming, Arctic ice isn't disappearing, it's all a massive conspiracy.

I know the drill. You say it often enough, people will believe it, even against the temperature record that has not warmed for 16years.

What kind of indoctrination program is it that can be so powerful to these AGW'rs that they believe the crap that comes out of their minds.

Basic physics tells us our planet should be warming and our satellites back this up. Our temperature record only tells us a small part of the story, 90% of the warming is occurring in our oceans. However, lets ignore this reality and only look at the temperature record. Only a fool would ignore the upward trend we can clearly see in our temperature record.

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/hazards/2011/12/enso-global-temp-anomalie...

Even that graph shows the temperature being flat (compared to 78-98) for the 16 years, although warmer than earlier.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Time to boycott 2GB and all its sponsors. Reply #68 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:36am I always laugh when looking at the earth's climate - which is several billion years old - people pull up graphs showing the last couple of decades. It's like working out the distance of London to Sydney and measuring with a tape the portion of your house to the end of the street.
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to boycott 2GB and all its sponsors. Reply #69 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:37am And we know what to expect with the next El Niño, don't we, progs. What are you going to argue when the next massive El Niño event pushes us well past the last record.
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Reply #70 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:38am

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:25am:

[quote author=41424E4156230 link=1350660319/63#63 date=1350692594]http://www.climatedepot.com/a/17777/Sea-Level-Fall-Defies-Climate-Warnings-Avg-s...

Sea Level Fall Defies Climate Warnings: 'Avg. sea levels fell by 5mm in 2011' Read the Full Article

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Your link doesn't seem to work.

You do understand the difference between natural variation and trend? I trust you understand that no scientist expects these changes to be monotonic.

Try the link again...it works for me, you have to click on the Read The Full Article

Sea Level Fall Defies Climate Warnings

Global average sea levels fell by 5mm last year, presenting an inconvenient fact in a climate change narrative that warns of severe long-term threats to coastal settlements.

The 5mm decline was almost twice the rate of the 3mm-a-year average increase recorded over the past 20 years and three times the 130-year average rise rate of 1.7mm a year.

A paper published in Geophysical Research Letters and reported by the American Academy for the Advancement of Science yesterday claims to have found the answer to why sea levels fell, not rose.

And, according to the paper, the retreat is only temporary.

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We'll see.

I understand a tape measure.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Time to boycott 2GB and all its sponsors. Reply #71 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:39am MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:37am: And we know what to expect with the next El Niño, don't we, progs. What are you going to argue when the next massive El Niño event pushes us well past the last record. Cant you wait?
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Reply #72 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:40am

Maqqa wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:34am:

How stupid MOTR

You call for a boycott of 2GB for a comment by Jones made at Gillard

Yet on a scale of things - you have not called for a boycott of the PM who have destroyed lives in Australia

This is not about Jones being a miserable individual. This is about his deliberate attempt to obfuscate the facts about global warming.

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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Reply #73 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:44am

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:34am:

How stupid MOTR

You call for a boycott of 2GB for a comment by Jones made at Gillard

Yet on a scale of things - you have not called for a boycott of the PM who have destroyed lives in Australia

This is not about Jones being a miserable individual. This is about his deliberate attempt to obfuscate the facts about global warming.

His opinions, backed up by his scientists, are his opinions on climate change and global warming...as your opinions backed up by your scientists are your opinions.

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Reply #74 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:46am

bambu wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

MOTR wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 10:34am:

How stupid MOTR

You call for a boycott of 2GB for a comment by Jones made at Gillard

Yet on a scale of things - you have not called for a boycott of the PM who have destroyed lives in Australia

This is not about Jones being a miserable individual. This is about his deliberate attempt to obfuscate the facts about global warming.

His opinions, backed up by his scientists, are his opinions on climate change and global warming...as your opinions backed up by your scientists are your opinions.

Well we cant have anyone else having a different opinion on a pseudo science trying to make out that it is empirical fact.

MOTR is making his personality look like an indoctrinated air head.

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