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Reply #120 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am
 
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.
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Reply #121 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?

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Reply #122 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am
 
You have to wonder if media outlets not capable of broadcasting with honesty and integrity should be allowed to hold a license to broadcast or print?
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Reply #123 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2 caused. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.
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Reply #124 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:58am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.


Oh look!!!!

It is the I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT TELLING LIES BUT AM TOO GUTLESS TO ADMIT IT answer!!!!

Ver poor form Progs.  Very poor.

Come on Progs, man up.  What are these "other factors".  Please enlighten us.


Explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factor" causing these observed results?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.  Because at the moment - it looks like you are just a sad, ignorant Alan Jones fan who has been caught making things up.
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Reply #125 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 12:10pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:58am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.


Oh look!!!!

It is the I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT TELLING LIES BUT AM TOO GUTLESS TO ADMIT IT answer!!!!

Ver poor form Progs.  Very poor.

Come on Progs, man up.  What are these "other factors".  Please enlighten us.


Explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factor" causing these observed results?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.  Because at the moment - it looks like you are just a sad, ignorant Alan Jones fan who has been caught making things up.

If you cant handle it, then P off. The best way to learn something is to get a complicated task and research it. Have it told to you, you will not learn in the same way.

Now if you think you know so much about climate change, then give some other factors that cause climate change. Give us the numbers in regard to percentage of recent temperature change caused by co2, ..... other factors. Tell us what percentage of the sea ice loss is caused by co2 and other factors.

BTW your question. Once you figure other factors, you would have a better answer to your question. Not until you give other factors.
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Reply #126 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 12:59pm
 
FRED. wrote on Oct 20th, 2012 at 3:49pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 20th, 2012 at 3:45pm:
stryder wrote on Oct 20th, 2012 at 6:21am:
I guess some lefties have got nothing better to do than continue there little jihad against alan jones which is showing that it is somewhat backfiring against them




A stat - revealed the other day - showed that Gloria's audience is less than the Al Jazeera news service on ABC24

Just a lot of old biddies and silly old coots in the vilest of Sydney's western ghettos




ABC 24  Disgusting Old Poo pushers from  Dalesford(sic) Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Im not even sure what that tries to MEAN ?



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Reply #127 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 1:04pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 12:10pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:58am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.


Oh look!!!!

It is the I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT TELLING LIES BUT AM TOO GUTLESS TO ADMIT IT answer!!!!

Ver poor form Progs.  Very poor.

Come on Progs, man up.  What are these "other factors".  Please enlighten us.


Explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factor" causing these observed results?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.  Because at the moment - it looks like you are just a sad, ignorant Alan Jones fan who has been caught making things up.

If you cant handle it, then P off. The best way to learn something is to get a complicated task and research it. Have it told to you, you will not learn in the same way.

Now if you think you know so much about climate change, then give some other factors that cause climate change. Give us the numbers in regard to percentage of recent temperature change caused by co2, ..... other factors. Tell us what percentage of the sea ice loss is caused by co2 and other factors.

BTW your question. Once you figure other factors, you would have a better answer to your question. Not until you give other factors.

Please explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factors" causing these observed results?
What are these "factors" you want "figured in"?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.

What are these "other factors" you claim are responsible for the observed phenomena of recent decades if it isn't global warming?

It is obvious you have been caught making things up.  Why don't you just man up and admit it?

Or explain what these strange and mysterious "factors" are you keep bleating on about?
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Reply #128 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 1:04pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 12:10pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:58am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.


Oh look!!!!

It is the I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT TELLING LIES BUT AM TOO GUTLESS TO ADMIT IT answer!!!!

Ver poor form Progs.  Very poor.

Come on Progs, man up.  What are these "other factors".  Please enlighten us.


Explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factor" causing these observed results?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.  Because at the moment - it looks like you are just a sad, ignorant Alan Jones fan who has been caught making things up.

If you cant handle it, then P off. The best way to learn something is to get a complicated task and research it. Have it told to you, you will not learn in the same way.

Now if you think you know so much about climate change, then give some other factors that cause climate change. Give us the numbers in regard to percentage of recent temperature change caused by co2, ..... other factors. Tell us what percentage of the sea ice loss is caused by co2 and other factors.

BTW your question. Once you figure other factors, you would have a better answer to your question. Not until you give other factors.

Please explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factors" causing these observed results?
What are these "factors" you want "figured in"?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.

What are these "other factors" you claim are responsible for the observed phenomena of recent decades if it isn't global warming?

It is obvious you have been caught making things up.  Why don't you just man up and admit it?

Or explain what these strange and mysterious "factors" are you keep bleating on about?

You keep making the claim you know about climate change. Well prove it. Stop with the co2 obsession and start giving he facts. Otherwise you are just a useful idiot.

Tell us the other factors that are causing warming/cooling. Tell us the percentages co2 is making it warmer. If it is 0.5 degrees over the baseline in the last 16 years from start to finish, then what percentage of that 0 degrees was caused by co2 and what was the percentages of the other factors.

Would it be cooler without co2. By how much and what temp would it be.

Come on, you know you can do it.
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Reply #129 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:06pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 1:04pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 12:10pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:58am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.


Oh look!!!!

It is the I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT TELLING LIES BUT AM TOO GUTLESS TO ADMIT IT answer!!!!

Ver poor form Progs.  Very poor.

Come on Progs, man up.  What are these "other factors".  Please enlighten us.


Explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factor" causing these observed results?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.  Because at the moment - it looks like you are just a sad, ignorant Alan Jones fan who has been caught making things up.

If you cant handle it, then P off. The best way to learn something is to get a complicated task and research it. Have it told to you, you will not learn in the same way.

Now if you think you know so much about climate change, then give some other factors that cause climate change. Give us the numbers in regard to percentage of recent temperature change caused by co2, ..... other factors. Tell us what percentage of the sea ice loss is caused by co2 and other factors.

BTW your question. Once you figure other factors, you would have a better answer to your question. Not until you give other factors.

Please explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factors" causing these observed results?
What are these "factors" you want "figured in"?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.

What are these "other factors" you claim are responsible for the observed phenomena of recent decades if it isn't global warming?

It is obvious you have been caught making things up.  Why don't you just man up and admit it?

Or explain what these strange and mysterious "factors" are you keep bleating on about?

You keep making the claim you know about climate change. Well prove it. Stop with the co2 obsession and start giving he facts. Otherwise you are just a useful idiot.

Tell us the other factors that are causing warming/cooling. Tell us the percentages co2 is making it warmer. If it is 0.5 degrees over the basline in the list 16 years, then what percentage of that 0 degrees was caused by co2 and what was the percentages of the other factors.

Would it be cooler without co2. By how much and what temp would it be.

Come on, you know you can do it.

Please explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factors" causing these observed results?
What are these "factors" you want "figured in"?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate. 

Avoiding the issue will get you nowhere.  Answer the question - or apologise for making things up

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Reply #130 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:15pm
 
Well we can see the self appointed resident expert on pseudo climate science does not know other factors athat cause climate change.

So much for that knowledge.

Lesson to self, keep an eye out for self appointed experts. You cant argue with idiots.
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Reply #131 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:18pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 1:04pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 12:10pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:58am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.


Oh look!!!!

It is the I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT TELLING LIES BUT AM TOO GUTLESS TO ADMIT IT answer!!!!

Ver poor form Progs.  Very poor.

Come on Progs, man up.  What are these "other factors".  Please enlighten us.


Explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factor" causing these observed results?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.  Because at the moment - it looks like you are just a sad, ignorant Alan Jones fan who has been caught making things up.

If you cant handle it, then P off. The best way to learn something is to get a complicated task and research it. Have it told to you, you will not learn in the same way.

Now if you think you know so much about climate change, then give some other factors that cause climate change. Give us the numbers in regard to percentage of recent temperature change caused by co2, ..... other factors. Tell us what percentage of the sea ice loss is caused by co2 and other factors.

BTW your question. Once you figure other factors, you would have a better answer to your question. Not until you give other factors.

Please explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factors" causing these observed results?
What are these "factors" you want "figured in"?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.

What are these "other factors" you claim are responsible for the observed phenomena of recent decades if it isn't global warming?

It is obvious you have been caught making things up.  Why don't you just man up and admit it?

Or explain what these strange and mysterious "factors" are you keep bleating on about?

You keep making the claim you know about climate change. Well prove it. Stop with the co2 obsession and start giving he facts. Otherwise you are just a useful idiot.

Tell us the other factors that are causing warming/cooling. Tell us the percentages co2 is making it warmer. If it is 0.5 degrees over the baseline in the last 16 years from start to finish, then what percentage of that 0 degrees was caused by co2 and what was the percentages of the other factors.

Would it be cooler without co2. By how much and what temp would it be.

Come on, you know you can do it.


you are the one citing other factors .. it's up to you to say what those factors are dipsheat.... how can he research something that you made up? you want to use it as an excuse, support your argument, otherwise your just being a gutless coward ...

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Reply #132 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:19pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
You keep making the claim you know about climate change.

No - I haven't made that claim.  But I will claim to know far more about it than you do


progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
Well prove it. 

I think anyone reading this thread will see it is pretty obvious




progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
Stop with the co2 obsession and start giving he facts. Otherwise you are just a useful idiot.

What facts do you want?  I am happy to oblige

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
Tell us the other factors that are causing warming/cooling.

Which would you like to learn more about?  Solar irradience? Milankovic Cycles?  ENSO? Plate techtonics?  Volcanic emissions? Particulate aerosols?

You were the one claiming that "other factors" had caused the arctic icecap to decrease - yet you say the earth is not warming!  Wat are these other "factors" besides global warming that are causing the acrtic icecap to decrease?


progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
Tell us the percentages co2 is making it warmer. If it is 0.5 degrees over the baseline in the last 16 years from start to finish, then what percentage of that 0 degrees was caused by co2 and what was the percentages of the other factors.

Would you like to rewrite that question in English?

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
Would it be cooler without co2.

Yes

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
By how much and what temp would it be.
By about 33 deg c.  Without the greenhouse effect the earth's surface temperature would be about -18 deg C
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect

Is there any point to this question?
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
Come on, you know you can do it.

We are still waiting for you to tell us what these "other factors" are that have cause the actic ice cap to decrease, global glacial mass balance to decrease and sea levels to rise if it isn't global warming.

What are these "other factors"?

Please tell us.
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Reply #133 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:21pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:18pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 1:04pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 12:10pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:58am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.


Oh look!!!!

It is the I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT TELLING LIES BUT AM TOO GUTLESS TO ADMIT IT answer!!!!

Ver poor form Progs.  Very poor.

Come on Progs, man up.  What are these "other factors".  Please enlighten us.


Explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factor" causing these observed results?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.  Because at the moment - it looks like you are just a sad, ignorant Alan Jones fan who has been caught making things up.

If you cant handle it, then P off. The best way to learn something is to get a complicated task and research it. Have it told to you, you will not learn in the same way.

Now if you think you know so much about climate change, then give some other factors that cause climate change. Give us the numbers in regard to percentage of recent temperature change caused by co2, ..... other factors. Tell us what percentage of the sea ice loss is caused by co2 and other factors.

BTW your question. Once you figure other factors, you would have a better answer to your question. Not until you give other factors.

Please explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factors" causing these observed results?
What are these "factors" you want "figured in"?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.

What are these "other factors" you claim are responsible for the observed phenomena of recent decades if it isn't global warming?

It is obvious you have been caught making things up.  Why don't you just man up and admit it?

Or explain what these strange and mysterious "factors" are you keep bleating on about?

You keep making the claim you know about climate change. Well prove it. Stop with the co2 obsession and start giving he facts. Otherwise you are just a useful idiot.

Tell us the other factors that are causing warming/cooling. Tell us the percentages co2 is making it warmer. If it is 0.5 degrees over the baseline in the last 16 years from start to finish, then what percentage of that 0 degrees was caused by co2 and what was the percentages of the other factors.

Would it be cooler without co2. By how much and what temp would it be.

Come on, you know you can do it.


you are the one citing other factors .. it's up to you to say what those factors are dipsheat.... how can he research something that you made up? you want to use it as an excuse, support your argument, otherwise your just being a gutless coward ...


Your words:
You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.


What are these "other factors" you are referring to?

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Reply #134 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:21pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:18pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:04pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 1:04pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 12:10pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:58am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:50am:
progressiveslol wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:35am:
MOTR wrote on Oct 21st, 2012 at 11:09am:
Yes, they underestimated the effect of the warming. It's why we can't risk putting too much more CO2 into the atmosphere, because we don't understand all the implications. We shouldn't be playing dice with our children's future. It's why we should be boycotting broadcasters who deliberately hide important facts and aggressively work against us taking action.

You obsess over co2 way too much. Go look at the other factors.

WHat are the "other factors"?!?!

You told us on another thread that there were "other drivers" which are responsible for the observed sea level rise, decrease in global glacial mass balance and decrease of the arctic ice cap which were not related to temperature rise - because you claim that temperature is not rising.

When asked to explain that - you naturally ran away.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1350597936/122#122

Could you tell us what these "other factors" you refer to now are?

Or will you just  run away again?


If you dont know how to research, then I am not about to give you the answer.

I am happy to wait till you come up with something other than just 1 factor. Stop obsessing about co2 and you might learn something.

For instance, the way you and others go on, the increase in temp from baseline is 100% co2. Is it to you or is it other factors combined.


Oh look!!!!

It is the I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT TELLING LIES BUT AM TOO GUTLESS TO ADMIT IT answer!!!!

Ver poor form Progs.  Very poor.

Come on Progs, man up.  What are these "other factors".  Please enlighten us.


Explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factor" causing these observed results?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.  Because at the moment - it looks like you are just a sad, ignorant Alan Jones fan who has been caught making things up.

If you cant handle it, then P off. The best way to learn something is to get a complicated task and research it. Have it told to you, you will not learn in the same way.

Now if you think you know so much about climate change, then give some other factors that cause climate change. Give us the numbers in regard to percentage of recent temperature change caused by co2, ..... other factors. Tell us what percentage of the sea ice loss is caused by co2 and other factors.

BTW your question. Once you figure other factors, you would have a better answer to your question. Not until you give other factors.

Please explain to us why - if as you say, the earth has not warmed for 16 years - why arctic sea ice is at the lowest level ever recorded, we global glacial mass balance is decreasing and why sea levels are rising.

What are the "other factors" causing these observed results?
What are these "factors" you want "figured in"?

You made the claim.  Please elaborate.

What are these "other factors" you claim are responsible for the observed phenomena of recent decades if it isn't global warming?

It is obvious you have been caught making things up.  Why don't you just man up and admit it?

Or explain what these strange and mysterious "factors" are you keep bleating on about?

You keep making the claim you know about climate change. Well prove it. Stop with the co2 obsession and start giving he facts. Otherwise you are just a useful idiot.

Tell us the other factors that are causing warming/cooling. Tell us the percentages co2 is making it warmer. If it is 0.5 degrees over the baseline in the last 16 years from start to finish, then what percentage of that 0 degrees was caused by co2 and what was the percentages of the other factors.

Would it be cooler without co2. By how much and what temp would it be.

Come on, you know you can do it.


you are the one citing other factors .. it's up to you to say what those factors are dipsheat.... how can he research something that you made up? you want to use it as an excuse, support your argument, otherwise your just being a gutless coward ...


if anyone purports to know climate change, they dam sure better know all the factors, not just the obsession with co2.
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