Everybody comes with baggage.
Just not always your type of baggage.

Nail it's not nice to call anybody sh*t. I could say you are sh*t because you are a rabid rascist, who might even think they are a Christian,  or NOT.
Christians are sh*t ...hypocritical warmongers who think the God Jehovah should hold sway.
Or sorry his divine Son, who rose from the dead. 
Now that's a deadhead idea  isn't it?
What is the difference, --- it is all intolerant bias.

SEEING AS YOU DON'T ACT, AS CHRIST WOULD HAVE YOU DO. --YOU R NOT XTIAN. ( jeez  I just figured out what an Xtian is.!!
I'm brilliant. )

You just hate everyone, right?

Soren is also reprehensible in his postings. He is Sh*t too.
Isn't it nice that people recognise you for what you are??

Even the Muslim community leaders are supportive of what happened and distancing themselves from the Muslims invoplved. That alone should tell you something, given the rarity for Muslims to publicly criticise their own. - Freediver

An interesting comment FD.

Even the Muslim community leaders are supportive of what happened and distancing themselves from the Muslims invoplved.
I don't see it that way ...at all.  The Muslim leaders, and the huge majority of their people CONDEMN what happened, ...and are taking responsibility for ensuring that it doesn't happen again.
They, in fact, are doing the very opposite of 'distancing' themselves,  and have stepped up to the line.  Quite rightly........and there WAS NO REPEAT this weekend. So far. I would be surprised if such occurred again, at least with regard to that video.
Bet that was a disappointment for some of you.
Those that are a part of the problem.


That alone should tell you something, given the rarity for Muslims to publicly criticise their own.
There are as many Muslims schisms as there are Xtian.  'their own' is restricted to whatever view of Islam held. And there are many, with much internecine-conflict. They are as divided amongst themselves as any Xtian.
They are human after all.

So your rhetoric becomes more and more self-serving.
 

Good comment Bertram.
Abu didn't provide details of ethnicity. So we will see what he wrote and interpret in our own fashion.
Myself...I think the attackers were not Islamic. What about it Abu? I don't intend to search for more info about your post.

there is no common ground or common standard of behaviour any more.-Bertram

This is true Bertram.
But 'anymore'?  Has there ever been common ground for us all....whatever we are??

Perhaps  Self-preservation.?  Only one I can think of.  And it applies across all human societies, varied as they are.

and more.
A question, Abu.

I have never read the Holy Koran, nor the Holy Bible. Well I've read a bit of the'Bible', but only as an adult, trying to grasp the allure of religion, and living in a Christian society, the 'Bible' was easily accessible.

Don't get it, by the way.
Never having been indoctrinated in any particular religion I am free to observe the actions of religious.

Abu.... I'm asking here if my understanding of the confluence of Christian and Islam is correct?
.
What I understand, from acquired knowledge, and what I find particularly interesting , is that in the Koran, Jesus Christ is recognised as a Prophet of the one God. Not THE Prophet , but A Prophet, along with the Prophet Mohammed, who was later in time?.

Does the Koran recognise Christ as such?..

Bertram wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2012 at 11:07pm:


Australia is not an Anglo land, Anglos have invaded this land and have trampled all over the people whose "commune" it actually is. So this kind of empty rhetoric doesn't really get you very far. An Anglo has no more of a right here than a Lebo, Turk or Eskimo.

don't know who abu is but the answer is yes.
muslims have a character in the koran that they identify with jesus and regard him as a prophet predating mohammed. it's a different character from what's in the bible but muslims say it's the same guy. muslims think that the bible is a distortion that made the koran necessary. they regard the koran as the new new testament. but cleverly they say that there can never be a new new new testament.

Emma wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2012 at 11:26pm:


Peace be upon him.

thanks for that Abu.

So  -- you were not indoctrinated,  but you identify as Aussie Muslim.  Was this a personal choice you made as an adult, ? Are you religious ?
Is it you identify same so as to generate discussion, or are you a 'Believer'?.

Just interested you understand?  I've never felt the 'need' to identify with a 'God'.  I can see that it could be attractive,, .. to have the 'Rules' spelt out for you, ..but I don't really grasp the urgency and fervour that arises with such identification.

FYI  -  I have always felt that religious folk are weak and need someone to lead and show them their place in the world.

No offense.!