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Reply #120 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:11pm
 
You are required to remove these cartoons, as insult to Mohammed , else you are liable to have your head removed.

Perfectly understandable.
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Reply #121 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 10:57pm
 
ha .. Smiley

I find that a good cartoon.

Funny. Smiley Smiley..  I guess we'll see what Abu thinks about it.




I think...... like .... the  real problem ....  is  like,  that  ....

Islamism is the baby of the major world faiths.

A relative newcomer in the history of religion,  as a youthful  faith ...it still feels the need to assert itself, gain converts and claim the ultimate position.

hopefully they will learn to live and let live...the Aussie way. Smiley

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Reply #122 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 1:54am
 
Emma, The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is dearer to us than our own mothers. Therefore any mock, ridicule, disrespect of him we take quite seriously.

Obviously Western culture has gone down a road where such things are no longer held sacred, but do you think that's really been a turn for the best?
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Reply #123 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 3:19am
 
YES
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Reply #124 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 7:53am
 
So you think all the lack of respect for pretty much everything that younger generations in this country have is all worth it?
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Reply #125 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 8:11am
 
We respect freedom of Speech and human rights Abu - more so than any previous generation. It is you who is disrespectful. It may come as news to you, but muhammmed is not everything and mocking Islam is not something new.
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Reply #126 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 11:05pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 27th, 2012 at 7:53am:
So you think all the lack of respect for pretty much everything that younger generations in this country have is all worth it?


No I don't think that Abu.... respect is important, very important ..if people want to live together.
Along with politeness and manners, they help to rein-in our tendencies to precipitate action.
In other words, think before you act, whether that action is physical or verbal.

Now, our youth...like youth the world over, must deal with a world unlike ours.. and they know the hypocrisy of religious, by the access they now have to information. Lots and lots of fast information.

And they are smart.  They process information differently.
I don't condone their lawlessness, but I sort of understand.

BECAUSE they get to see the stuff going down all over,  they have none of the certainties in their lives, that you do, thru your religious beliefs, or I do, thru the experiences of a life.... and my certainties have nothing to do with God.

Nothing.... I have thought, even as a young child , that religion was a real problem for people, in their lives. I never wanted to be them, and have never even been tempted. 

So I have very few certainties... Smiley...  but I've learned to live with it.

Most of the youth of today face the same challenge I did.  They see nothing worthwhile arising from religion. 
It isn't real, and they don't buy it.  Unless of course, they are unable to handle their freedom, and seek comfort from an all-knowing God.  Whatever you wish to call Him.

And I capitalise out of respect.
BUT   
the One God surely should have all adherents loving and respecting others who have this belief. 
Even if they use other words.

SURELY...!!!  the only way RELIGION can gain any real credibility for the non-believers, is for the adherents TO BE AS ONE.


This is not the reality, and this is why religions no longer command the respect their adherents feel is fitting.

Simply, RELIGION doesn't live up to it's advertising.!!!

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Reply #127 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 11:31pm
 
And further.....

since our western society today had it's basis, to all intents and purposes, IN religion of one sort or another...(and not just western society either)
..to  know that religion no longer holds sway, and is seemingly powerless when it comes to the decency and rightness of its monks,..... well it leaves a big hole in the basics of our society.
An unfilled empty hole.

Not good at all..... 
BUT there is no going back

That civilisation is in such a parlous state, can only be laid at the feet of the progenitors... the Religious, and the dogma that leads to War..
because isn't it self-evident???..

If religion worked for the overall good...we wouldn't be where we are today
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Reply #128 - Sep 27th, 2012 at 11:54pm
 
So

I am saying that religion is in truth, well past its use by date.  That it continues to exert such an influence in daily affairs is ..well, anachronistic,  ...

But perhaps that means that WE

Homo Sapiens Sapiens  are also past our use by date.

If you look at what we have done to this planet, and our fellow homo sapiens ..we are plainly savages, incapable of rising above our prehistoric imperatives.

However..!!there is hope...if not for us particularly.

As animals in a changing environment, we continue to evolve and adapt,  and there are already 'new' humans amongst us.

Hopefully, we'll go the way of the dinosaurs.. and a better creature will rise in our place.


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Reply #129 - Sep 28th, 2012 at 12:58am
 
respect is given, when respect is due.
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Reply #130 - Oct 4th, 2012 at 4:30pm
 
Media 'coverage' of the Sydney protests was a bit like this I think.
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Reply #131 - Oct 4th, 2012 at 6:06pm
 
Except that the 400 strong crowd and the signs they were carrying were actually covered by the media and were a source of much of the controversy.

Abu, you still seem to be completely unaware of why people object so strongly.
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Reply #132 - Oct 5th, 2012 at 9:26pm
 
Don't think I'll bother with this thread any further.

Don't like the censorship.

Recommend you watch SBS now.... the history of Jerusalem.

Just up to where the Moslems give it to Frederick, ......

an amazing history again.
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Reply #133 - Oct 7th, 2012 at 8:21pm
 
another sydney protests:

Thirty-three year-old Jérémie Louis Sydney, a convert to Islam, was paying a conjugal visit to one of his niqab-clad wives in Strasburg, the 22 year-old mother of a newborn baby. The police knew he was dangerous but thought they had a “minute of surprise” to overwhelm him, but Sydney was on his feet, waiting for them. He emptied the barrel of his Magnum 357, aiming at the head and chest of a policeman whose life was saved by his helmet and bullet-proof vest.  His colleagues returned fire, killing Sydney on the spot. The procureur of Strasburg explained at a press conference this afternoon that Sydney had shaved his beard when he got to Strasburg. “It seems,” he said, “it seems that this means he was ready to become a martyr.”http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/les-dessous-d-une-operation-antiterroriste...

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Reply #134 - Oct 16th, 2012 at 8:59pm
 
The reason why this protest went differently from every other was because the muslims did a flash mob and ran to the US consulate. They must have been told, invade the US consulate at all costs, so a minimal police contingent also sprinted out of the mall to guard the MLC centre.

And it was because the muslims kept hurling themselves at the cops to get into the MLC centre, ie the US consulate that there was trouble. Russia Today was there to cover a protest to support Julian Assange, and went to the MLC Centre, where the US consulate is housed. Note there are about 8 brave cops facing off against 100s of muslims until the cavalry arrived. If those uniforms from the patrol in the mall did not get their and hold the line, Australia would have had the embarrassing experience of muslims being in the foyer of the MLC Centre smashing things up on television.



I dont respect your prophet, and I dont care if you're offended.
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