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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53417 At my desk.	Re: Paul Watson Gets Out Of Dodge City Again. Reply #15 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:35pm Quote: What about you on your high horse Freediver. You reckon you could work in an abbatoir? Sure, if I needed the job. I kill animals for fun. Look at my profile picture.
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Reply #16 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:37pm

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:32pm:

TNL, you are welcome to read up on the scientific research if you want. As for the law, the IWC has determined again and again that the Japanese are not breaking it. The IWC has had plenty of opportunities to close the loophole. They have not done so. The actions of the Japanese whalers is legal, regardless of how ignorant you are of the outcomes of the scientific research. Sinking ships in antarctic waters is illegal, regardless of how much propaganda you spew about the people on those ships.

Do you think it is reasonable for Paul Watson to attempt to kill people because you don't know what the research outcomes are?

what research is it that needs to kill thousands of whales each year ?? that sort of slaughter in the name of research is unheard of for such a large animal.

you must be fickle if you believe their bullshit stories on research.

Paul Watson is just doing the job that spineless politicians won't do just because the japs buy our filthy coal from us and we have to suck up to them Sad

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Paul Watson Gets Out Of Dodge City Again. Reply #17 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:38pm freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:00pm: I feel embarrassed every time I see Australians get on their high horse about the Japs killing whales. You should feel embarrassed. Dodo drumstick, Freediver?
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Reply #18 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:40pm

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

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What about you on your high horse Freediver.
You reckon you could work in an abbatoir?

Sure, if I needed the job. I kill animals for fun. Look at my profile picture.

Come on Freediver - catching a fish is not the same as slitting a sheeps throat with a knife.
I don't think many people would have the stomach to do that unless they were starving.
Be honest now.

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Reply #19 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:40pm

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

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What about you on your high horse Freediver.
You reckon you could work in an abbatoir?

Sure, if I needed the job. I kill animals for fun. Look at my profile picture.

why don't we kill you for fun ?? At the end of the day it's the humans who are the only species capable of destroying the environment they live in. One less trigger happy human on the planet would be an asset to the environment and presrevation of other species Wink

When you consider that whales have been on this planet a hell of a lot longer than us humans they must have thought their luck had run out as soon as they saw those slit eyes floating around in the ocean Sad

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Reply #20 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

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What about you on your high horse Freediver.
You reckon you could work in an abbatoir?

Sure, if I needed the job. I kill animals for fun. Look at my profile picture.

Come on Freediver - catching a fish is not the same as slitting a sheeps throat with a knife.
I don't think many people would have the stomach to do that unless they were starving.
Be honest now.

but he doesn't do it because he is hungry he does it for fun Smiley

Can you believe that ??

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 122645 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Paul Watson Gets Out Of Dodge City Again. Reply #21 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 9:49pm Nail, Quote: but he doesn't do it because he is hungry he does it for fun Can you believe that ?? I used to fish when I was a kid & I did enjoy it & I also used to share the fish with my family - I used to gut them & clean them as well. I used to use a kontiki with 50 hooks but they are illegal now.
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Reply #22 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:03pm

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what research is it that needs to kill thousands of whales each year ?

Why do you keep asking me this? Why don't you look it up yourself if you think that is the only important point. Not having a clue about the research does not mean it does not exist. Pretty much all biologists kill animals for their research.

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you must be fickle if you believe their bullshit stories on research.

Can you point out where I have justified my position on the value of the research?

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Paul Watson is just doing the job that spineless politicians won't do just because the japs buy our filthy coal from us and we have to suck up to them

No TNL. The politicians won't do it because they can't. Japan is not breaking any laws.

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Dodo drumstick, Freediver?

Minke whales are not in any danger of extinction. In fact, harvesting them could help prevent extinction.

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Come on Freediver - catching a fish is not the same as slitting a sheeps throat with a knife.

I have killed my fair share of cats and smaller animals. I know the difference. The hardest animal to kill was actually a cuttlefish. I am actually keen to go roo and pig hunting. Plenty of people do this for fun. If you have never tried it then you can not know whether you would handle it. Sheep are particularly stupid so I am not sure why you use them as an example. They are the fish of the land.

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I don't think many people would have the stomach to do that unless they were starving

I think you are wrong.

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why don't we kill you for fun ?

See TNL, this is where the law comes in. This is what Paul Watson has been trying. That is why he is a criminal and the Japs are not.

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When you consider that whales have been on this planet a hell of a lot longer than us humans they must have thought their luck had run out as soon as they saw those slit eyes floating around in the ocean

Typical racism from the anti whaling mob. Greenpeace get a lot of mileage from the racism. They raise funds in Australia and the US by playing up the japs, but in Europe they are pretty much silent on whaling because it won't raise the funds without the racist appeal. White people hunt whales in Europe. Whaling was one of Australia's founding industries.

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I used to fish when I was a kid & I did enjoy it

Is it so hard to believe you might enjoy hunting mammals?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 122645 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Paul Watson Gets Out Of Dodge City Again. Reply #23 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:08pm Quote: Is it so hard to believe you might enjoy hunting mammals? If you were hungry then you'd have to make it fun in order to be able to do it. Could you slit a sheep's throat? You missed that question!
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Reply #24 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:47pm

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:03pm:

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what research is it that needs to kill thousands of whales each year ?

Why do you keep asking me this? Why don't you look it up yourself if you think that is the only important point. Not having a clue about the research does not mean it does not exist. Pretty much all biologists kill animals for their research.

then where is it then ??? I've asked you this three times already and you continue to fob me off like it's not an important issue of the whole debate !!

And what is the payoff to this mass slaughter of whales in the name of scientific research ?? What are the benefits apart from filling up their guts ??

why don't they just stick to researching the mating rituals of fire flys in a jam jar ?? May as well because their research into whales is about as useful Sad

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Reply #25 - Jul 27^th, 2012 at 10:59pm

Don't you think that it is culturally insensitive to criticise the Japanese who have eaten whale meat for centuries? I do.

I think Alaskans, Russians and Scandinavians also have had a history if eating whale.

I don't have an issue with whaling, they are more or less just ocean cattle. There is such a thing as sustainable harvesting.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Paul Watson Gets Out Of Dodge City Again. Reply #26 - Jul 28^th, 2012 at 7:44am What a shame that the Japanese don't know, what whale sanctuary means.
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Reply #27 - Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:18am

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Could you slit a sheep's throat?

You missed that question!

Physically I may have a bit of difficulty, depending on how strong or spooked the sheep is. It certainly wouldn't be my method of choice. But I wouldn't have any emotional problems doing it.

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then where is it then ??? I've asked you this three times already and you continue to fob me off like it's not an important issue of the whole debate !

Because I don't know where it is and it is not an important issue. If you actually wanted to find it rather than asking silly questions you would have no trouble.

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And what is the payoff to this mass slaughter of whales in the name of scientific research ?? What are the benefits apart from filling up their guts ??

Food is not a trivial benefit.

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I think Alaskans, Russians and Scandinavians also have had a history if eating whale.

You left out Australians. Whaling was one of our founding industries.

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What a shame that the Japanese don't know, what whale sanctuary means.

They know what pretend whale sanctuary means.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 122645 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Paul Watson Gets Out Of Dodge City Again. Reply #28 - Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:33am Freediver, Quote: Physically I may have a bit of difficulty, depending on how strong or spooked the sheep is. It certainly wouldn't be my method of choice. But I wouldn't have any emotional problems doing it. You should have got a job as a butcher.
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Reply #29 - Jul 28^th, 2012 at 8:40am

Japan confirms Watson pursuit

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July 27, 2012

Andrew Darby

Japan has confirmed it wanted fugitive Sea Shepherd leader, Paul Watson to be held for questioning before he broke bail in Frankfurt and fled Germany. Huh

The chief cabinet secretary, Osamu Fujimura, said the government was still attempting to determine facts around the flight of Mr Watson, who led his group in eight campaigns against the Japanese whaling fleet in the Antarctic.

Mr Fujimura told reporters in a Tokyo press conference that Japan had been in the early stages of an official approach to Germany over the case of Mr Watson.

"The Japanese government has tentatively submitted a request to incarcerate the individual for further investigation by the Japanese government," Mr Fujimura said through an official interpreter.

Mr Watson had been detained on €250,000 ($295,000) bail in Germany for 70 days while Costa Rica sought his extradition over an alleged navigation offence that was revived after a decade.

Japanese officials repeatedly described Mr Watson as an eco-terrorist in the escalating Antarctic conflict.

This summer he planned to use a four-ship fleet to shut down the "scientific whaling" operation.

In 2010 Japan sought his inclusion on Interpol's blue notice list, which requested his whereabouts be noted, but did not ask for his arrest.

Mr Watson said before his arrest in Germany that he believed the notice had lapsed.

Following his departure from Germany, for an unknown destination, a Frankfurt court issued a new arrest warrant.

Japan has repeatedly asked Australia to act against Mr Watson and Sea Shepherd, but a series of Australian Federal Police investigations have not resulted in any charge.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/environment/whale-watch/japan-confirms-watson-pursuit-20120727-22ygg.html#ixzz21rhBTl1o

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