____ wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 10:25pm:

What the Toxic Greens want is irrelevant.

Grassroot Labor and Grassroot Greens, sure nothing has changes. We are still friends.

Yet Greens must now do what is best for themselves and that is calling Labor out on this and so test the progressive vote.


Longer this issue hangs, the more harm it will do for the progressive block.

Time for the progressives to select who will lead them in this millenium and then start a decade campaign of building back to office.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 11:04pm:



In the lower house :Mr Abbott, via Labor

In the Senate, Steve Fielding via Labor


Obviously everyone has short memories and requires another dose of neo conism and extreme weather from climate change.


When progressive voters wake from their stupor, then they will realise what Labor did to you all.


It is now coming to a point where parliament is not big enough for both Labor and The Greens so one has to go.

Calling an election now will likely favour Greens more in the longer term.

Imagine how many major ALP members could be out of parliament within a couple of months.

Green will not call an election since we gave our word. Greens can put more scrutiny on legislation and demand greater changes. If these changes do not occur, reject it.

Labor will have to either become Greens' bitch for the rest of the term, or call an early election and lose most of it's MPs.


off twitter ~ newspoll
Most to blame for asylum-seeker policy impasse: ALP 32 L/NP 28 GRN 16

Best handle the asylum-seeker issue: ALP 17 (-4) L/NP 37 (-10) Other 13 (+1) None 12 (+5)

There is extreme anger in voter land directed at Labor and Labor has given the Greens an opportunity to distance ourselves from you lot.

The Greens are not Grass roots, they are strictly inner suburban trendy, yuppy chic and restricted to the concerns of a very narrow demographic...

First of all, no one party won the last election - hence the reason it was called a "hung" parliament. No party attained enough votes to claim the ability to form a government in its own right. Secondly, there was no negotiation because Bob Brown refused outright to have anything to do with Tony Abbott (and vice versa) and it was clear the Independents (if they can be called that) were behind Labor. Lastly, if the Greens put their weight behind a no-confidence motion from the Coalition against Labor and an election was held, Labor would almost certainly preference Labor last (as would the Coalition) with the following result:

- Labor would be wiped out
- Greens would lose one or possibly even two seats in the Senate
- Coalition would easily attain a majority in the House of Representatives and probably also have a slim majority in the Senate

So, while I don't envy the Greens for the probable result of an early election, if they wanna go ahead and do that then by all means please do so!

The Greens have been an importand valuable and constructive part of Australian politics since the 1970's.