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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #45 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 8:39am

Soren wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:28pm:

Race is neither here nor there. People's origins don't matter as long as their hearts and minds are in the right place.

Culturally incompatible people - those whose hearts and minds are hostile to this country - should be kept out.

In the 1950's Italians would have been considered culturally incompatable as were the Vietnameese, the chineese greeks etc.

Turns out that we are almost always wrong about that.

I thinkyou may find that this is just another example, people comming to Australia do not desire to come here because they hate us or are hostile to our culture - that premise is rediculous

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Australia's problem with racism Reply #47 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 8:50am are you discussing the boat people here? and migrants? it may be observed as hypocritical as the previous boat people 200 years ago invaded this land go figure namaste
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: Australia's problem with racism Reply #48 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 8:53am freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 8:47am: Were any of those groups fundamentally opposed to democracy and freedom? Nope. Or they wouldn't be wanting to come here and live in a supposed democracy. SOB
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Reply #49 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:00am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 8:53am:

freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 8:47am:

Were any of those groups fundamentally opposed to democracy and freedom?

Nope. Or they wouldn't be wanting to come here and live in a supposed democracy.

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Islam is fundamentally incompatible with Western liberal democracy. You can't be a practicing Muslim and a liberal democrat. They are irreconcilable.

Look at the 'Arab spring' they are all voting in the Islamists. The only Muslim compatible with Western liberal democracy is the apostate Muslim. They give up Islam. It's either that or giving up on liberal democracy.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: Australia's problem with racism Reply #50 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:44am Then how do you explain all the muslims living just fine in our country? SOB
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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #51 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:52am

Simple, they are living here despite having an ideology that is incompatible with western values. It's not like they would keel over and die because of democracy. Islam commands them to obey the law until they are in a good position to start killing people.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:21pm:

What nonsense. I would never degrade the good name of Islam by associating it with these disastrous ideals of freedom and democracy.

What do you think SOB - is rejecting freedom and democracy a slightly bigger problem than being Italian?

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #52 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:03am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

Then how do you explain all the muslims living just fine in our country?

SOB

I too live in Brisbane SOB but I spent 8 years in Sydney before that and I can tell you there are plenty of Muslims not living "just fine" in our country.They are of course the lebanese street gangs who strike terror into every law abiding sydneyite,especially if you happen to be of a white christian appearance.Their brutal unjustified violence is renown.

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #53 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:04am

freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

Simple, they are living here despite having an ideology that is incompatible with western values. It's not like they would keel over and die because of democracy. Islam commands them to obey the law until they are in a good position to start killing people.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 8:21pm:

What nonsense. I would never degrade the good name of Islam by associating it with these disastrous ideals of freedom and democracy.

What do you think SOB - is rejecting freedom and democracy a slightly bigger problem than being Italian?

I have never beat my wife DH

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Reply #54 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:06am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 8:39am:

Soren wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:28pm:

Race is neither here nor there. People's origins don't matter as long as their hearts and minds are in the right place.

Culturally incompatible people - those whose hearts and minds are hostile to this country - should be kept out.

In the 1950's Italians would have been considered culturally incompatable as were the Vietnameese, the chineese greeks etc.

Turns out that we are almost always wrong about that.

I thinkyou may find that this is just another example, people comming to Australia do not desire to come here because they hate us or are hostile to our culture - that premise is rediculous

I find, as a British-Australian, I have little in common with any of those people.

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #55 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:07am

brumbie wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:03am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

Then how do you explain all the muslims living just fine in our country?

SOB

I too live in Brisbane SOB but I spent 8 years in Sydney before that and I can tell you there are plenty of Muslims not living "just fine" in our country.They are of course the lebanese street gangs who strike terror into every law abiding sydneyite,especially if you happen to be of a white christian appearance.Their brutal unjustified violence is renown.

You assume I didnt go to HS in sydney. There are lots of street gangs and the fact that some of them are of mostly ppl of lebanese origin is irrelevant. There have always been street gangs in sydney. Especially in the "west". They are bastard lawbreakers but its not because they are of lebanese heritage its because they are bastards.

Even if you could (and im sure you will try) to pin it on their religion or race you arent explaining why there are plenty of muslims that ARE just fine.

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #56 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:10am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 8:39am:

Soren wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:28pm:

Race is neither here nor there. People's origins don't matter as long as their hearts and minds are in the right place.

Culturally incompatible people - those whose hearts and minds are hostile to this country - should be kept out.

In the 1950's Italians would have been considered culturally incompatable as were the Vietnameese, the chineese greeks etc.

Turns out that we are almost always wrong about that.

I thinkyou may find that this is just another example, people comming to Australia do not desire to come here because they hate us or are hostile to our culture - that premise is rediculous

I find, as a British-Australian, I have little in common with any of those people.

No because they are humans. They have families and they go to school and then work for a living. They care about their stuff and some of them are religious nuts and some of them even believe the same BS you do.

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #57 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:13am

Maqqa wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

I notice the social apologists are DELIBERATELY trying to mislead Australians when presenting their arguments in favour of illegal BOAT people

HOW??

The UNHFCR figure represents ALLLLLLL Asylum Applications

The current debate in Australia is about ILLEGAL BOAT people and the effectiveness of LIBs policy against Labor policy. As well as Labor's egotist stubbornness of not admitting they got it wrong in 2007

So you want to debate something that doesn't exist ... talk about misleading Australians .....

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #58 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:20am

The trouble with this argument is where it usually degenerates to - A call for muslims to leave the country - and it then is totally discriminatory. Which is against the principles of a LAW that governs ALL.

I honestly believe that the solution to this problem is to have a declaration to citizenship that declares oneself to the duty of the country and it's people Above AND beyond any loyalty to a religion or belief.

If that was the citizenship declaration, as well as the compulsory declaration that had to be made to receive government benefits, government appointments, government contracts, ministerial appointments including those right to the level of local council it would subvert any attempt by muslims or indeed any faith based organisation from taking control of our government, it's institutions or ruling with sharia or religious law.

It would also probably prevent zealots of any religious persuasion from wanting to come here as religion would then become subservient to the needs of the state and the people - and that is the total opposite of what any "good muslim" wants.

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #59 - Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:29am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:07am:

brumbie wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 11:03am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

Then how do you explain all the muslims living just fine in our country?

SOB

I too live in Brisbane SOB but I spent 8 years in Sydney before that and I can tell you there are plenty of Muslims not living "just fine" in our country.They are of course the lebanese street gangs who strike terror into every law abiding sydneyite,especially if you happen to be of a white christian appearance.Their brutal unjustified violence is renown.

You assume I didnt go to HS in sydney. There are lots of street gangs and the fact that some of them are of mostly ppl of lebanese origin is irrelevant. There have always been street gangs in sydney. Especially in the "west". They are bastard lawbreakers but its not because they are of lebanese heritage its because they are bastards.

Even if you could (and im sure you will try) to pin it on their religion or race you arent explaining why there are plenty of muslims that ARE just fine.

SOB

There are no Scandinavian Lutheran street gangs. Why?

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