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Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:24pm
 
The Gillard camp has come out today telling us Abbott will not repeal the carbon tax.

Her reasons are:
(1) He'll crab walk - that's a real reason? just because she crab walked and lied when she said "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead" does not mean others will do it. You are disgraceful Gillard for pulling others down so low to your level.

(2) Wong says "it will be too difficult to repeal once you price it into the market". Lets be clear about this - this tax will go on for 50+ years. It will be easier to repeal it in the first year than in the 45th year!!! So if there was ever a time to repeal it - it's NOW!!!

(3) Combad says his "instincts" tells him Abbott won't do it. F#(K that's comforting isn't it? The Climate Change Minister says his "instincts"  Abbott won't do something that will sink him!!! It's more like he's "praying to God, Allah, Buddha and whatever other deity" will have him that he's not left holding the baby after the 2013 election.

(4) Who the F#(K is Gillard to say what the LIBs will or won't do when she does not even know what's going on in her own party? So you can get stuffed Gillard. You are desperate and we know it. 63% rejects your carbon tax with 57% wants it repealed. So suck it up princess


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/13914897/abbott-wont-repeal-carbon...
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Reply #1 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:43pm
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:45pm
 
i don't think is sensible a tax on Aussie people to fix a problem that is global and they do not make a contribution to the main problem.

I think it is a silly idea and not very fair to Aussie familys.
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Reply #3 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:05pm
 
The ALP are getting desperate now trying to somehow convince the few that are still listening that Abbott wont repeal the CT. of course in their infinite stupidity - for which tehy are famed - all they have done is warmed the hearts of the fools still supporting them and driven a few thousand more away. it hasnt yet occured to them just how deeply unpopular and HATED the CT is.

if there is a worse political tactician than Gillard, I dont remember him/her.
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Reply #4 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 11:41pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:05pm:
The ALP are getting desperate now trying to somehow convince the few that are still listening that Abbott wont repeal the CT. of course in their infinite stupidity - for which tehy are famed - all they have done is warmed the hearts of the fools still supporting them and driven a few thousand more away. it hasnt yet occured to them just how deeply unpopular and HATED the CT is.

if there is a worse political tactician than Gillard, I dont remember him/her.


The crazy thing is they think it actually work!!

We thought Keating and Hawke was bad - Gillard is the worse of the lot.
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Reply #5 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:49am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 11:41pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:05pm:
The ALP are getting desperate now trying to somehow convince the few that are still listening that Abbott wont repeal the CT. of course in their infinite stupidity - for which tehy are famed - all they have done is warmed the hearts of the fools still supporting them and driven a few thousand more away. it hasnt yet occured to them just how deeply unpopular and HATED the CT is.

if there is a worse political tactician than Gillard, I dont remember him/her.


The crazy thing is they think it actually work!!

We thought Keating and Hawke was bad - Gillard is the worse of the lot.


I wouldn't have a clue what Hawke was like, way before my time, but I don't see how ANYONE could be worse than Gillard. She's an inept, incompetent, pathetic lying disgrace. Her and the rest of her cronies saying that the carbon tax will not be repealed demonstrates the height of arrogance, conceit, deception and contempt for the public, all to familiar and akin to this divided and directionless government.
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Reply #6 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:11am
 
Just do a few reruns of Gillard, Swann and Wong.

The alcho's in labor are drunk with stupidity.

After the reruns, ask the question. Do you really believe these idiots.



Tony Abbott famously said "labor will obsolutely bring in a carbon tax"
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Reply #7 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 8:02am
 
@ prog

Just looking at QT where Bishop confronted Swan about his promise that every dollar raised by the carbon tax will go to Australian householders but then ALP committed some of the money to the UN Climate Fund.

Swan then goes ahead and told Parliament that this contribution is helping Australians  Grin Grin Grin

The arrogance of Swan is incredibly stupid at best

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Reply #8 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 11:51am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 8:02am:
@ prog

Just looking at QT where Bishop confronted Swan about his promise that every dollar raised by the carbon tax will go to Australian householders but then ALP committed some of the money to the UN Climate Fund.

Swan then goes ahead and told Parliament that this contribution is helping Australians  Grin Grin Grin

The arrogance of Swan is incredibly stupid at best



not so much arrogance as just plain stupid. Swan is easily the stupidest Treasurer we have had in a long time.
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Reply #9 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 11:59am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 11:51am:
Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 8:02am:
@ prog

Just looking at QT where Bishop confronted Swan about his promise that every dollar raised by the carbon tax will go to Australian householders but then ALP committed some of the money to the UN Climate Fund.

Swan then goes ahead and told Parliament that this contribution is helping Australians  Grin Grin Grin

The arrogance of Swan is incredibly stupid at best



not so much arrogance as just plain stupid. Swan is easily the stupidest Treasurer we have had in a long time.



Thats why he managed to do a complete budget for australia. We may not agree with it but he did it. And it apparently works. Well it does what he wanted it to anyway.

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Reply #10 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:25pm
 
There is one major reason that Abbnott will not repeal the Carbon tax - He can't do it.
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Reply #11 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:30pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 8:02am:
@ prog

Just looking at QT where Bishop confronted Swan about his promise that every dollar raised by the carbon tax will go to Australian householders but then ALP committed some of the money to the UN Climate Fund.




Not Like the Proposed Abbnott carbon tax where all the Money was going to the Biggest emitters and nothing to the people impacted.

That was going to be a great system he had recomended as the best option, an incentive for the poluters to increase carbon output in order to qualify for a greater share of the government hand out.
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Reply #12 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 2:33pm
 
Better get prepared for that closet Communist Bob Brown's curse on Australia the farcical "CO2" tax which was "justified" on the basis of a, now well established, lie about "poisonous" CO2 gas and spectacular climate fortune telling to wreak havoc on the Australian economy by increasing the cost of living by 10% and rising by Christmas.

Miss Gillard will be waddling with joy at seeing its FABIAN fantasy for Australia "moving forward" and crippling "working families".


$46m carbon tax bill for hospitals, schools

EXCLUSIVE BY SIMON BENSON The Daily Telegraph June 11, 2012 12:00AM

THE average Sydney hospital will be hit with a $120,000 annual carbon bill after the $23-a-tonne tax kicks in on July 1.

Local public schools will also be forced to come up with an extra $9000 a year on their power bills to pay their carbon liability.

Revised analysis from NSW Treasury dated May 4, 2012, reveals that NSW hospitals and schools would have the highest carbon tax liabilities of any government agency.

The new modelling of the carbon tax impact on government services included in tomorrow's state budget reveals NSW Health would have a $106 million carbon cost over the four-year forward estimates - or $27 million a year.

The budget will confirm a cumulative four-year carbon impact of $948 million.

With 220 hospitals across NSW, the average cost to power each hospital will increase by $120,000 a year, according to the budget papers.

How carbon tax will hurt small business. STRUGGLING small businesses face punishing power bill rises of up to 25 per cent due to the carbon tax and are warning of job losses and flow-on price hikes.

Even schools, hospitals feel carbon tax

Implementation of the carbon tax is now just 20 days away, and still the surprises continue about just how wide-ranging the new tax will be.

Carbon tax payments for students. THE latest round of carbon tax compensation payments - advances of up to $190 for eligible students - are being rolled out from today.

Hospitals are particularly energy intensive due to the hi-tech operating, diagnostic and emergency equipment and the fact they are open 24 hours a day.

But the education department will also have a four-year liability of $77 million - or $19.25 million a year. With 2177 schools across the state, the average bill increase per year for every school will be $9000.

Railcorp will pay an extra $57 million over four years, or $9000 a year for every one of its 1650 train carriages.

Even NSW Police will be slapped with an annual $4 million increase to power bills for its 500 police stations.

The state's jails would pay an extra $58,000 a year each to cover the carbon tax, while State Transit would pay an extra $1 million a year to run city buses.

The federal government has overcompensated almost 90 per cent of households to assist with bills. Low to middle income families are expected to be up to $5000 a year better off due to tax cuts and increases to family payments.

NSW government agencies will not be compensated and the federal government has in the past accused the O'Farrell government of fudging its figures.

However, the documents obtained from sources in the NSW Treasury reveal the revised modelling is based on the federal government's own carbon modelling which assumes a "cost pass through rate" of about 9 per cent for electricity.

The estimates under this approach are based on conservative assumptions about the effect of the carbon tax on electricity prices, the budget document says.

Premier Barry O'Farrell has already planned to recoup the cost from an increase in mining royalties - a move likely to provoke retaliatory action from the federal government through its royalty rebate scheme under the mining tax.

State Treasury officials are angered by federal government claims their figures are wrong and claim they have been politicised by the Gillard government despite having advised a former Labor state government for 17 years.

Climate Change Minister Greg Combet yesterday attacked Opposition Leader Tony Abbott for a tax scare campaign, claiming he would be proven wrong. "It has been the most ridiculous, deceitful campaign in politics I can remember."


Comments on this story

Chris of Sydney Posted at 1:09 PM Today
An our standard of living will take a massive nosedive. Aged pensioners will die of heat exhaustion in summer and freeze in winter. Good night Australia, thanks for coming.

David of Sydney Posted at 12:59 PM Today
Labor! What else can you expect from these twits! Champions at wasting tax payers money! The money they gouge from the public with this "Carbon Dioxide Tax" they will waste in an instant! Be prepared for big donations to third world countries ( run by dictators ) and heaps going to the United Nations! Gillard and Brown should hang their heads in shame for thinking up this swindle!

Doug Posted at 12:48 PM Today
What a great opportunity for the Govt to show leadership and start reducing energy use and saving money.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/m-carbon-tax-bill-for-hospitals-schools/st...
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Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
There is one major reason that Abbnott will not repeal the Carbon tax - He can't do it.


really? he cant put up legisltaion in the lower house and then submit it to the senate? not really hard at all. if they reject it twice then it goes to a DD and a joint sitting in which case it WILL be passed. Not simple for sure, but a long way short of impossible.
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Reply #14 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 4:12pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 4:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
There is one major reason that Abbnott will not repeal the Carbon tax - He can't do it.


really? he cant put up legisltaion in the lower house and then submit it to the senate? not really hard at all. if they reject it twice then it goes to a DD and a joint sitting in which case it WILL be passed. Not simple for sure, but a long way short of impossible.



Abbnott does not care about a carbon price after all a Tax is his idea of the best method - all his spluttering in reality is about political opportunism and has nothing to do with what he thinks is best for Australia.

In the most likely time frame for a DD election Tnoy would be well aware that to pull the trigger is going to cost him at least 15 seats and probably over 20.

He will not take that risk over a policy which in reality he agrees with.
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