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Reply #90 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 1:24pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 1:07pm:

It is us that offers the peace.

Do you know we pulled out of Gaza on our own free will.

We were tired of waiting for the Palestinians to agree the terms so we just leave.

What happens?

Gun battles between Fatah and Hamas for control and they start fighting each other and killing each other.

So tell me - who is it that wants peace?

Well as you failed to answer in the other thread why wont israel do the peace talks? Why continue the bulldozing? Why not actually try to have peace?

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Reply #91 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 1:30pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:48pm:

We both know this isn't the case.

Also we both know the West is scared of how powerful a belief system Islam is. The West is scared of how many of their own people reject their dead-end ideology, and instead are turning to Islam. This is what scares people like you the most. Your own son or daughter might become a Muslim and reject your destructive way of life, and attempt to guide you to the truth, of which you have turned your back on.

Dead-end? Islam is the dead-end. It's submission to a god. That's a sure way to nothing. Liberal democracies are those that offer the future. It allows the one great thing that ensures a future: Individual creation/discovery in the arts and sciences. Innovations are always conjured by creative, strong-headed individuals, or a group of creative, strong-headed individuals, those that can posit and formulate new ideas and rupture the weak or outmoded paradigms. It is this very rejection of the arts and sciences as to why your Islam is a dead-end. It's a repeat of the same ol' same ol' and to hell with any practical or pragmatic innovations.

The major downfall to individual freedom is it allows traitors such as yourself the freedom to undermine the society.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #92 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 1:45pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 1:00pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 10:59am:

Actually according to your logic yes aussies should give australia to the aboriginals and americans should give america to the indians.

Don't count on Avraham actually realising he just made the case against himself.

it does.
We were in the Holy Land first and God Himself gave us the land.

So it does say it should be us by this logic.

Where is this supposed "god" now? Why isnt he fixing your problems?

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What problem? Israel is a successful, thriving country, even as it is surrounded and threatened by poor, incompetent yet hostile muslim countries with much, much greater populations, territories and resources. What do they all have in common? They are Arabs and Islamic.

There would be no Israel if they were surrounded by hundreds of millions of hostile vikings or Swiss or Germans. That's why the Jews are grateful and rightly say, 'thank god we have the Arabs for enemies'.i

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #93 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:03pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.

Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets. But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there.
Over here you are nothing but trouble.

Oh? How are they in your face? Do they knock on your door and try to convert you? Do they accost you in the street and tell you you will go to hell if you dont go to their church? Do they hand you pieces of paper when you are trying to shop? Is their religious crap all over the tv on sunday and is their "god" mentioned all the time in the media? do they attempt to brainwash your kids @ school with their religion?

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You missed a question soren

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Reply #94 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:52pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.

Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets. But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there.
Over here you are nothing but trouble.

Oh? How are they in your face? Do they knock on your door and try to convert you? Do they accost you in the street and tell you you will go to hell if you dont go to their church? Do they hand you pieces of paper when you are trying to shop? Is their religious crap all over the tv on sunday and is their "god" mentioned all the time in the media? do they attempt to brainwash your kids @ school with their religion?

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Blowing up buildings, busses, nightclubs etc is pretty 'in your face'.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #95 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:55pm

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.

Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets. But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there.
Over here you are nothing but trouble.

Oh? How are they in your face? Do they knock on your door and try to convert you? Do they accost you in the street and tell you you will go to hell if you dont go to their church? Do they hand you pieces of paper when you are trying to shop? Is their religious crap all over the tv on sunday and is their "god" mentioned all the time in the media? do they attempt to brainwash your kids @ school with their religion?

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Blowing up buildings, busses, nightclubs etc is pretty 'in your face'.

When has that happened in australia?

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #96 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:59pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.

Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets. But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there.
Over here you are nothing but trouble.

Oh? How are they in your face? Do they knock on your door and try to convert you? Do they accost you in the street and tell you you will go to hell if you dont go to their church? Do they hand you pieces of paper when you are trying to shop? Is their religious crap all over the tv on sunday and is their "god" mentioned all the time in the media? do they attempt to brainwash your kids @ school with their religion?

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Blowing up buildings, busses, nightclubs etc is pretty 'in your face'.

When has that happened in australia?

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Great! There has been no bubonic plague epidemic in Australia, therefore it's too early to say if it is really dangerous or not.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #97 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 3:01pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.

Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets. But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there.
Over here you are nothing but trouble.

Oh? How are they in your face? Do they knock on your door and try to convert you? Do they accost you in the street and tell you you will go to hell if you dont go to their church? Do they hand you pieces of paper when you are trying to shop? Is their religious crap all over the tv on sunday and is their "god" mentioned all the time in the media? do they attempt to brainwash your kids @ school with their religion?

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You missed a question soren

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Reply #98 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 3:09pm

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:59pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Ok so nothing for you to worry about, go back to your dreary old miserable life and stop concerning yourself with the affairs of Muslims.

By your own admission we cannot amount to anything, so you are safe, carry on then.

Believe me, I would love to be oblivious to Muslims beyond bellydancing and fantastic tales of flying carpets. But the bvggers never cease get into our faces and push their primitive and aggressive and stupid ideology onto us. We might not be much interested in Muslims and Islam but they are interested in us.
I'd love you all to go to your 'Muslim lands' and live there.
Over here you are nothing but trouble.

Oh? How are they in your face? Do they knock on your door and try to convert you? Do they accost you in the street and tell you you will go to hell if you dont go to their church? Do they hand you pieces of paper when you are trying to shop? Is their religious crap all over the tv on sunday and is their "god" mentioned all the time in the media? do they attempt to brainwash your kids @ school with their religion?

SOB

Blowing up buildings, busses, nightclubs etc is pretty 'in your face'.

When has that happened in australia?

SOB

Great! There has been no bubonic plague epidemic in Australia, therefore it's too early to say if it is really dangerous or not.

There have been a few Islamic terrorists arrested in Australia recently. If you can manage to get Spot to acknowledge that this even happened, he will no doubt insist it was a conspiracy and the terrorists were not dangerous at all - again because apparently the threat does not exist until they manage a major terrorist attack on our soil.

Spot even tried to tell me that Australians were not targetted in Bali. He couldn't say who was the target, he just 'knew' it was not Australians, similar to how he just 'knows' everything until you ask him about it.

Plus there was the muslim camel terrorists from our early history.

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Reply #101 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 5:15pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 3:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

Blowing up buildings, busses, nightclubs etc is pretty 'in your face'.

Sounds like the creation of "Israel".

You guys were useless and irritating for hundreds of years. There was no Israel between the 16th and the 20th centuries. What did Muslims do? Slave trading and piracy and ... er... that's it. All the supposed glories of islamic science and invention predate the Renaissance. Since then, nothing.
Complete torpor for centuries. Even now, only your Jew hatred motivates you and only for murderous mayhem. You stand for the elimination of Israel and the restoration of 7th century Arab mental universe. Both these are absolutely non-negotiable for you Islamists.i

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Reply #102 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 5:25pm

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 5:15pm:

There was no Israel between the 16th and the 20th centuries.

So you think there was an "Israel" in the 15th. century? Can you show me a little evidence of it? Rough borders? Coins minted? Names of rulers? What kind of state was it? What relationship did it have with the Mameluke Sultanate, which just so happened to claim sovereignty over the same stretch of land around that time? Can you show evidence of any "Israel" even since the dawn of the Christian era? As far as I'm aware, the Kingdom of Israel ceased to exist in the early first millennium B.C.E. (ie. 2500+ years ago)

Better brush up on your history I think. Or alternatively you could continue living in the delusional Zionist propaganda fairyland.

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Reply #103 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:13pm

Arabs have been offered peace.

They already have Gaza because Israel peacefully withdraw its forces on its own accord.

Now Israel offers them to live in the majority of West Bank.

They have a choice.

They can have peace.

Or the fools can throw stones at our tanks and we will clean the dirt with their face in return.

Let the Arabs decide their fate but they will NEVER beat the Jews.

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Reply #104 - Jun 15^th, 2012 at 11:29pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

They have a choice.

They have a choice to either accept a tiny little portion of their land, and let some foreigners come and live in their homes, whilst they rot in refugee camps? Or to resist and expel the invaders? Yes I'm sure that's a great choice.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 15^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

They can have peace.

You don't enter someone's home, kill half their family, kick them out on the street and then claim "You can have peace".

Surely even you should be able to see why this is totally unacceptable.

In fact the Qur'an tells us that that Jews proclaim themselves to be "peacemakers" when clearly they are not:

"And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only."

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