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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #135 - Jun 21^st, 2012 at 10:02pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 10:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

...says the white australian

It is crazy. He must be very confused.

A white Muslim Australian!

Unlike your religion, mine is not a racially based one. Islam is for humans of any skin colour or nationality, for all humanity.

More surprisingly you might be shocked to know of Jewish Muslims.

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Reply #136 - Jun 21^st, 2012 at 11:11pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 21^st, 2012 at 9:57pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

...says the white australian

When you see me pointing a machine gun in the face of kids, and expelling them from their homes with bulldozers, then perhaps this might be relevant. Until then, it's just your usual poor attempt to side step the enormous injustice that's been done, and that, more importantly, continues to be done day in and day out to the people of occupied-Palestine.

They have the entire Arab world to go and live.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #138 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 9:04am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 21^st, 2012 at 11:11pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 21^st, 2012 at 9:57pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

...says the white australian

When you see me pointing a machine gun in the face of kids, and expelling them from their homes with bulldozers, then perhaps this might be relevant. Until then, it's just your usual poor attempt to side step the enormous injustice that's been done, and that, more importantly, continues to be done day in and day out to the people of occupied-Palestine.

They have the entire Arab world to go and live.

Right, and Palestine is very much a part of the Arab world. Clearly it's not part of Europe, which is where your heritage is.

So you have all of Europe to go and live in, on yer bike then.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #139 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:55pm

Falah, do you see any contradiction between your Islam-based rejection of racism and telling people they should be forced to leave their home because of their ancestry?

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 21^st, 2012 at 9:57pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

...says the white australian

When you see me pointing a machine gun in the face of kids, and expelling them from their homes with bulldozers, then perhaps this might be relevant.

Isn't that what you want for Jews like Avram?

Why is Avram's heritage relevant to where he ought be allowed to live, but not yours?

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Reply #140 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 10:02pm

freediver wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

Falah, do you see any contradiction between your Islam-based rejection of racism and telling people they should be forced to leave their home because of their ancestry?

No, not their home, the home of some poor Palestinian who is now living in a refugee camp.

Surely you're not that braindead, that you can't see the problem here? Millions of Palestinians live in refugee camps, so Zionists can come and live in their homes, and you think there's nothing wrong with that? Instead in your deluded little point of view, the wrong is done by people like falah for speaking out against such inhuman trash?

freediver wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 21^st, 2012 at 9:57pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

...says the white australian

When you see me pointing a machine gun in the face of kids, and expelling them from their homes with bulldozers, then perhaps this might be relevant.

Isn't that what you want for Jews like Avram?

You're a goose really. That's what Palestinians suffer every single day, yet you seem to think the mere mention of whether someone wants the perpetrator of it to taste it himself is so scarey, you're actually trying to threaten questioning me whether that's what I want? Do you actually stop and read the crap you write?

freediver wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

Why is Avram's heritage relevant to where he ought be allowed to live, but not yours?

Read it again, when you see me pointing machine guns in the face of kids, and bulldozing their homes to make them my own, and herding them into refugee camps, then this kind of question will have some semblance of relevance. Until such a point in time, your questions just make you look like a prime grade A tosser.

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Reply #141 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 10:08pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

Read it again, when you see me pointing machine guns in the face of kids, and bulldozing their homes to make them my own, and herding them into refugee camps, then this kind of question will have some semblance of relevance. Until such a point in time, your questions just make you look like a prime grade A tosser.

More to the point: you and millions of other Muslims, hostile though you are, can and do live unmolested in the west. You do not need guns to defend yourselves, the law defends you. Nobody is lobbing crude rockets into Lakemba or Finsbury Park.

SO the question is very relevant and you dodge it precisely because it is relevant.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #142 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 11:18pm

Soren wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 10:08pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

Read it again, when you see me pointing machine guns in the face of kids, and bulldozing their homes to make them my own, and herding them into refugee camps, then this kind of question will have some semblance of relevance. Until such a point in time, your questions just make you look like a prime grade A tosser.

More to the point: you and millions of other Muslims, hostile though you are, can and do live unmolested in the west. You do not need guns to defend yourselves, the law defends you. Nobody is lobbing crude rockets into Lakemba or Finsbury Park.

SO the question is very relevant and you dodge it precisely because it is relevant.

You're right soren, the Aussies aren't lobbing rockets into Lakemba... perhaps when they all get herded into refugee camps, and find Muslims living in their former homes, the thought might just cross their minds?

Please do tell me how you think you'd react if you ended up a refugee in your own land (or on the fringes of it), and some religious minority waltzed in and setup shop in your home? Think you might then be able to have just a drop of empathy with the former residents of Majd who are now refugees in Gaza, and who lob rockets at the Zionist outpost of Sderot that was bvuilt on top of Majd?

I'm just dying for a Zionist or Zionist-hanger-oner to answer this one for me. Not surprisingly none ever have... Perhaps you can be the first? since you're big on noting who does and doesn't dodge questions.

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Reply #143 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:29am

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Surely you're not that braindead, that you can't see the problem here? Millions of Palestinians live in refugee camps, so Zionists can come and live in their homes

Were they living in refugee camps prior to the wars?

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Instead in your deluded little point of view, the wrong is done by people like falah for speaking out against such inhuman trash?

The wrong he does is in calling for more inhumane actions. There is a big difference between criticising Israeli foreign policy and demanding the destruction of the nation and another force mass migration.

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You're a goose really. That's what Palestinians suffer every single day, yet you seem to think the mere mention of whether someone wants the perpetrator of it to taste it himself is so scarey, you're actually trying to threaten questioning me whether that's what I want? Do you actually stop and read the crap you write?

So it is what you want for Jews like Avram?

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Read it again, when you see me pointing machine guns in the face of kids, and bulldozing their homes to make them my own, and herding them into refugee camps, then this kind of question will have some semblance of relevance. Until such a point in time, your questions just make you look like a prime grade A tosser

I see. So you cannot explain your own obvious hypocrisy, and asking you about it is some kind of threat? Why does the question threaten you? Is your hypocrisy only relevant when you cease being so impotent in actually carrying out your evil plans?

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Reply #144 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 6:57pm

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

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Surely you're not that braindead, that you can't see the problem here? Millions of Palestinians live in refugee camps, so Zionists can come and live in their homes

Were they living in refugee camps prior to the wars?

Not like I haven't posted this for you before, PLEASE READ. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet

Get back to me when you've covered it, and know the basic history about what precipitated the war (ie. the expulsion of Palestinians, making them refugees).

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

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Instead in your deluded little point of view, the wrong is done by people like falah for speaking out against such inhuman trash?

The wrong he does is in calling for more inhumane actions. There is a big difference between criticising Israeli foreign policy and demanding the destruction of the nation and another force mass migration.

The Zionist installation exists at the expense of millions of Palestinians. So damn right it should be IMMEDIATELY dismantled, and those who've come there should be returned back to their countries of origin.

You continually speak of this as if it's some distant historical event, it is not, it is being done as we speak.

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

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You're a goose really. That's what Palestinians suffer every single day, yet you seem to think the mere mention of whether someone wants the perpetrator of it to taste it himself is so scarey, you're actually trying to threaten questioning me whether that's what I want? Do you actually stop and read the crap you write?

So it is what you want for Jews like Avram?

Yes, all Zionists should go back to their own countries, and vacate the homes of the Palestinians, so they can leave their refugee camps and return to their homes. No solution will be achieved until this basic inhumanity is reversed. Even discussing the issue is equivalent to the Jews negotiating with Hitler about how many Jews they'll let him gas. There is no negotiation on it.

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

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Read it again, when you see me pointing machine guns in the face of kids, and bulldozing their homes to make them my own, and herding them into refugee camps, then this kind of question will have some semblance of relevance. Until such a point in time, your questions just make you look like a prime grade A tosser

I see. So you cannot explain your own obvious hypocrisy, and asking you about it is some kind of threat? Why does the question threaten you? Is your hypocrisy only relevant when you cease being so impotent in actually carrying out your evil plans?

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In other words you concede that my situation is not even remotely like theirs, I don't point machine guns in kids faces or bulldoze their homes and push them into refugee camps, but you're just too much of a grade A tosser to admit it. No problem, I accept your half baked admission that you couldn't mount an argument to save yourself.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: How Islam Saved The Jews Reply #145 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 7:55pm Were they living in refugee camps prior to the wars? Quote: So damn right it should be IMMEDIATELY dismantled, and those who've come there should be returned back to their countries of origin. What about those who were born there? Is this a good example of how Islam saved the Jews?
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Reply #146 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 8:06pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 6:57pm:

[quote author=697D6A6A6B66796A7D0F0 link=1338909288/143#143 date=1340580555]

Yes, all Zionists should go back to their own countries, and vacate the homes of the Palestinians, link=1338909288/143#143 date=1340580555] [quote]

What about us Zionists (people who believe that Israel has a right to exist) who don't live in Israel, and aren't Jewish????

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Reply #147 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:21pm

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

Were they living in refugee camps prior to the wars?

I implore you, read the link.

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

What about those who were born there?

If you're born in a military occupation outpost, that doesn't give you a legitimate right to stay in someone elses home, certainly not to control their homes, whilst they live in refugee camps. It might entitle you to seek asylum under those returning to their homes, but certainly not to maintain the military outpost.

Do you think for instance the children of Nazi occupiers of France, Poland etc. should have a right to maintain Nazi regimes in those countries, just because they were born there? Should the Polish and French have been denied the right to take their countries back, just so those children of Nazis could maintain Nazi regimes where they were born?

What kind of idiocy are you peddling here fd?

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

Is this a good example of how Islam saved the Jews?

Is what a good example?

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Reply #148 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:21pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 25^th, 2012 at 6:57pm:

[quote author=697D6A6A6B66796A7D0F0 link=1338909288/143#143 date=1340580555]

Yes, all Zionists should go back to their own countries, and vacate the homes of the Palestinians, link=1338909288/143#143 date=1340580555] [quote]

What about us Zionists (people who believe that Israel has a right to exist) who don't live in Israel, and aren't Jewish????

They have no rational minds.
This is why they support the people who deliberate set off bombs to kill Israeli children and women.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: How Islam Saved The Jews Reply #149 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 9:23pm If the Arabs want war, then they will wish there was a day they did not start to fight the Jews. We are a strong people.
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