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Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:09pm
 
Anyone here familiar with the fact how trace levels of toxins, chemicals and radioactive materials increase in an animal the higher it is in the food chain?
The shrimp has 10%, the little fish who eats the shrimp has 10% + the shrimps 10%, the big fish who eats the little fish has 10% + 20% from the fish and the shrimp and so on..
Humans being at the top of that must be very weary.

Radioactive bluefin tuna crossed the Pacific to US
http://news.yahoo.com/radioactive-bluefin-tuna-crossed-pacific-us-190121826.html
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — Across the vast Pacific, the mighty bluefin tuna carried radioactive contamination that leaked from Japan's crippled nuclear plant to the shores of the United States 6,000 miles away — the first time a huge migrating fish has been shown to carry radioactivity such a distance.

"We were frankly kind of startled," said Nicholas Fisher, one of the researchers reporting the findings online Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The levels of radioactive cesium were 10 times higher than the amount measured in tuna off the California coast in previous years. But even so, that's still far below safe-to-eat limits set by the U.S. and Japanese governments.


BP oil spill toxins from Gulf of Mexico found in eggs of pelicans nesting in Minnesota
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2012/05/31/bp-oil-spill-toxins-in-gulf-of-mex...
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Nearly 80 percent of collected samples contained Corexit, a chemical dispersant used to break up oil spills. Both the petroleum compounds and Corexit are dangerous in small doses, capable of causing cancer, endocrine disruption, and birth defects.
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Reply #1 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:15pm
 
Yeah saw something about this on one of those "highly legitimate" shows the other night. Apparently they are going to look in to looking in to checking tuna for radiative.

Meanwhile what does it matter if we check our trawlers? The tuna in our tins prolly comes from somewhere else.

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Reply #2 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:15pm
 
Ah, and as a little happy note in all of this. NICNAS, our chemicals regulations body, is self-regulated. They basically sit down and ask the 'interested parties' what they want. Basically any chemical that resembles a chemical that is 'safe' will be allowed into Australia and used.

The same body also nodded to the big companies' suggestion that the threshold of chemicals you could import without fees should be lowered. So people who ordered a bottle of whiteout or shoe polish were suddenly hit with a fee. The big companies are already paying, and love the fact they can squeeze individual importers of these chemicals out of the market. Give that a quick thought next time you go down the chemicals aisle in your local supermarket, or go out to buy that new paint. Just because it's here doesn't mean it's safe.
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Reply #3 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:17pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:15pm:
Yeah saw something about this on one of those "highly legitimate" shows the other night. Apparently they are going to look in to looking in to checking tuna for radiative.

Meanwhile what does it matter if we check our trawlers? The tuna in our tins prolly comes from somewhere else.

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If the tuna has a problem then the problem exists in the entire food chain.
Radioactivity can spread world wide very easily and already has from Fukushima, combine that with all the other radioactive materials they are exposed to and you have a very dangerous mix.
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Reply #4 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:18pm
 
Loki I was talking about radioactive stuff from those accidents. Chemicals are another kettle of fish (see what i did there?). Australia allows several chemicals in that are banned ion the rest of the world. My theory on why this is is that Howard volunteered us to use up the stockpiles.

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Reply #5 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:19pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:17pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:15pm:
Yeah saw something about this on one of those "highly legitimate" shows the other night. Apparently they are going to look in to looking in to checking tuna for radiative.

Meanwhile what does it matter if we check our trawlers? The tuna in our tins prolly comes from somewhere else.

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If the tuna has a problem then the problem exists in the entire food chain.
Radioactivity can spread world wide very easily and already has from Fukushima, combine that with all the other radioactive materials they are exposed to and you have a very dangerous mix.


Yes. I got that from first post however the tv show didnt point this out @ all.

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Reply #6 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:20pm
 
Loki wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:15pm:
Ah, and as a little happy note in all of this. NICNAS, our chemicals regulations body, is self-regulated. They basically sit down and ask the 'interested parties' what they want. Basically any chemical that resembles a chemical that is 'safe' will be allowed into Australia and used.

The same body also nodded to the big companies' suggestion that the threshold of chemicals you could import without fees should be lowered. So people who ordered a bottle of whiteout or shoe polish were suddenly hit with a fee. The big companies are already paying, and love the fact they can squeeze individual importers of these chemicals out of the market. Give that a quick thought next time you go down the chemicals aisle in your local supermarket, or go out to buy that new paint. Just because it's here doesn't mean it's safe.

You only have to know the amount of chemicals that are legal in Australia and banned almost everywhere else in the world to see their corruption. Even if it is for consumption they will not ban something unless a public spotlight is shun upon the issue.
The safest way to avoid these things is to look at the brands you are buying from. Large corporations put profit first and hence buy cheap and dangerous chemicals. Small Australian companies need to put the customer first to compete with the large corporations and hence will not be as bad in a lot of cases.
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Reply #7 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:21pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:19pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:17pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:15pm:
Yeah saw something about this on one of those "highly legitimate" shows the other night. Apparently they are going to look in to looking in to checking tuna for radiative.

Meanwhile what does it matter if we check our trawlers? The tuna in our tins prolly comes from somewhere else.

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If the tuna has a problem then the problem exists in the entire food chain.
Radioactivity can spread world wide very easily and already has from Fukushima, combine that with all the other radioactive materials they are exposed to and you have a very dangerous mix.


Yes. I got that from first post however the tv show didnt point this out @ all.

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What show? And of course they wouldn't, the entire issue has always been avoided and this is obvious with Fukushima.
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Reply #8 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:33pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:20pm:
Loki wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:15pm:
Ah, and as a little happy note in all of this. NICNAS, our chemicals regulations body, is self-regulated. They basically sit down and ask the 'interested parties' what they want. Basically any chemical that resembles a chemical that is 'safe' will be allowed into Australia and used.

The same body also nodded to the big companies' suggestion that the threshold of chemicals you could import without fees should be lowered. So people who ordered a bottle of whiteout or shoe polish were suddenly hit with a fee. The big companies are already paying, and love the fact they can squeeze individual importers of these chemicals out of the market. Give that a quick thought next time you go down the chemicals aisle in your local supermarket, or go out to buy that new paint. Just because it's here doesn't mean it's safe.

You only have to know the amount of chemicals that are legal in Australia and banned almost everywhere else in the world to see their corruption. Even if it is for consumption they will not ban something unless a public spotlight is shun upon the issue.
The safest way to avoid these things is to look at the brands you are buying from. Large corporations put profit first and hence buy cheap and dangerous chemicals. Small Australian companies need to put the customer first to compete with the large corporations and hence will not be as bad in a lot of cases.


Some of those who have worked for NICNAS will probably be going with a Four Corners program if they can get it organised. Keep your eyes peeled, it's a good cause if it has the same effect as the live animal trade program. For one thing, this isn't something too 'abstract' for some, where animal welfare is. This is about the safety of our own family and children.
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What show? And of course they wouldn't, the entire issue has always been avoided and this is obvious with Fukushima.


I dont remember. It was prolly one of those ones on news24 (our own fox news and not even fox is it?)

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Reply #10 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 3:47pm
 
Loki wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:33pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:20pm:
Loki wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 1:15pm:
Ah, and as a little happy note in all of this. NICNAS, our chemicals regulations body, is self-regulated. They basically sit down and ask the 'interested parties' what they want. Basically any chemical that resembles a chemical that is 'safe' will be allowed into Australia and used.

The same body also nodded to the big companies' suggestion that the threshold of chemicals you could import without fees should be lowered. So people who ordered a bottle of whiteout or shoe polish were suddenly hit with a fee. The big companies are already paying, and love the fact they can squeeze individual importers of these chemicals out of the market. Give that a quick thought next time you go down the chemicals aisle in your local supermarket, or go out to buy that new paint. Just because it's here doesn't mean it's safe.

You only have to know the amount of chemicals that are legal in Australia and banned almost everywhere else in the world to see their corruption. Even if it is for consumption they will not ban something unless a public spotlight is shun upon the issue.
The safest way to avoid these things is to look at the brands you are buying from. Large corporations put profit first and hence buy cheap and dangerous chemicals. Small Australian companies need to put the customer first to compete with the large corporations and hence will not be as bad in a lot of cases.


Some of those who have worked for NICNAS will probably be going with a Four Corners program if they can get it organised. Keep your eyes peeled, it's a good cause if it has the same effect as the live animal trade program. For one thing, this isn't something too 'abstract' for some, where animal welfare is. This is about the safety of our own family and children.
Sounds interesting!
I would like to think they could make a difference but we are literally exposed to millions of bad things, even the biggest bureaucratic attempt wouldn't even solve .1% of the problem.
You would be surprised how naive people can be. Most of the brands that are the biggest criminals in this instance people have been trusting their entire lives. I think people will do the head in the sand thing
But I could be wrong
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Reply #11 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 6:00pm
 
Medicines also we have the ones that are banned everywhere else (for good reason) and ppl are taking them. Viox and celebrex to mention 2. ACTA will make all this worse re chemicals and poisons.

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