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PLEASE get rid of Gillard AND Abbott.
May 29th, 2012 at 5:03pm
 
Surprise, surprise. The Newspoll today once again demonstrated that BOTH are virtually (Abbott is better by 1%) as unpopular as each other. It's the same old, same old. The Coalition is thumping Labor, the PPM keeps swinging either way, with voters generally unable to decide on who would not make so much the better PM, but rather, the less worse, although Gillard should be a mile in front in that regard.

It's a similar situation to last year. At one point the Coalition led 59-41, then Labor clawed it back to 53-47, then it all plummeted again. As I said, overall, the Coalition leads by a mile in the primary voter and 2PP, that is very constant. The PPM is extremely volatile, but what is still very constant is the fact that the Australian people do not want either leader.

As a swinging voter, Labor will not be under any circumstances be getting my voter. At the moment, I will very likely be putting in a donkey vote. If the Libs put in Turnbull, then they will 100% be getting my vote. I really don't want to vote informally, but having Abbott there would leave me no choice, and again, Labor have lost me no matter what they do. You can forget the Greens, too. I would rather starve for a month than vote for those loons.
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Reply #1 - May 29th, 2012 at 5:04pm
 
Nobody else is going to be any better.

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Reply #2 - May 29th, 2012 at 5:10pm
 
Voters support the Libs because they are not Labor. They support Labor because they hate the Libs.

They plump for Gillard because she is not Abbott and for Abbott because he isn't Gillard.

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Reply #3 - May 29th, 2012 at 5:12pm
 
If Abbott and Gillard are the best this country can do then we need to have a long hard look at ourselves.
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Reply #4 - May 29th, 2012 at 5:14pm
 
How about Slipper? Make him PM for a while! Or wait how about thomson?

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Reply #5 - May 29th, 2012 at 7:07pm
 
Rudd was a nobody before he made a move on the leadership. So we don't know how he will do once he gets into the chair.

He's going to tell it like it is and people don't like it. Yet we want pollies to tell us what they think.

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Reply #6 - May 29th, 2012 at 7:12pm
 
Slipper or Thomson couldnt be worse than Abbott or Gillard
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Reply #7 - May 29th, 2012 at 7:28pm
 
Juliar Gillard & Tony Abbott should be banned from going to the UK or the USA and banned from conspiring with their politicians while they serve in the Australian Parliament.  I don't trust either of them.
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Reply #8 - May 29th, 2012 at 8:05pm
 
I heard reports some Pensioners have not seen a cent of compensation from the Government yet in their Bank Accounts for the Carbon Price atrocity.
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Reply #9 - May 29th, 2012 at 8:17pm
 
For a very long time now Australian politics have been a contest of the tail-enders (ratchets eyebrows), with We, The People of this great and future Republic having to choose which one we consider will do the least harm.

Fact is - in the last 30 odd years, both have done immeasurable harm - both economically and socially.  I was watching Q and A last night - and remain amazed that so very many people still think that living in Australia is living in paradise.  YES - it is - compared to many other nations - which is like saying that living in a sewer is better than being miles out to sea in the outfall....after processing - which, if you think about it, is a pretty fair summation of the current malaise of this country and its people.

In all honesty - I feel that the time is long overdue for some new political party blood, and I most definitely feel that the enormous number of quite disparate movements of discontent we have here at this moment are looking for a new direction - one as far away from the chicanery of both Labor and Coalition as possible.

I call these two the Tag Team - for the simple reason that one gives us a battering, then the other...and neither markedly improves the lot for the ordinary person by very much more than a little window dressing to cover up their own mistakes.

Gifts for increasing power costs due to Carbon Taxes cannot remove the fundamental flaw in the whole argument - we are the only country in the world doing anything at all about this - AND we are still equally culpable for global carbon increase (I fall short of utter belief in global warming and have many doubts there) and pollution for the simple reason that - regardless of where we off-shore all our own industries (and pay for the privilege with rising costs contrary to touted benefits) - we remain consumers of the same goods produced in the same dirty ways.

The real response to Australia 'leading the way' with a Carbon Tax on the pitiful remaining industries here is a lot like the laughter of the showground crowd at Babe running onto the paddock to herd the sheep....

This is political posturing on the world stage (well - how unusual!) - not a substantial gain for the Australian people.

All the respective 'policies' of both sides here have achieved is more of the same - golden opportunities for the well-heeled and the unscrupulous at the expense of the creation of yet another and lower class here - that of the Never-Will-Haves, who suffer endemic unemployment, total lack of real opportunities, and a total lack of any horizon at all.

Physicians - heal thyselves first!

"Day Three at this Test Match between Australia and the Rest of the World, with Australia having failed badly in the batting order, and now totally dependent on the tail end of Gillard and Abbott to pull something out of the hat.  On past form, there seems very little likelihood of Australia lasting the first session here today - Abbot has a string of failures to try to make up with the selectors, including the Hanson Test, while Gillard has never achieved a decent score once in her career and has been selected only because of her bowling well once in the Rudd Test, and remains a very unproven bat"......
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Reply #10 - May 29th, 2012 at 8:20pm
 
JuLiar has only gone up in the polls cause she gave money away to some voters.

Abbott is a good attack dog but not PM material.
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Reply #11 - May 29th, 2012 at 8:23pm
 
Turnbull isn't coming back and Mr Abbott WILL be the next PM. It's really about time that many of you get over that.
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Reply #12 - May 29th, 2012 at 8:30pm
 
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I would rather starve for a month than vote for those loons.
-John G

Do you feel that way because of the annoying way that Greens Wins pushes so fanatically hard, or are there actual Greens Policies that annoy you?
If so, what would they be?

I find I am completely desperate to not see Abbott win, as I think he would cause massive social division in the country, as well as making us all worse off, apart from maybe the top 1% wealthiest, and I would happily ship them all off to timbuktu.
I am not impressed with Gillard, and feel she has been too weak a leader, even though I do give Labor credit for governing reasonbly well in very difficult times.

I do think the Greens will be the most likely party to get my vote, and policies some call extreme, I think of as overdue, and applaud a party sticking to it's principles.

So, just what do you find so distasteful about the Greens?
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Re: PLEASE get rid of Gillard AND Abbott.
Reply #13 - May 29th, 2012 at 8:42pm
 
Clive Palmer for PM

If we are to have an idiot, then let them be entertaining.
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Reply #14 - May 29th, 2012 at 8:53pm
 
Prevailing wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 8:05pm:
I heard reports some Pensioners have not seen a cent of compensation from the Government yet in their Bank Accounts for the Carbon Price atrocity.



Think pensioners are suppose to receive compensation, up to the 8th of june. So whenever the pension is paid next, the compensation is likely then.
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