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Reply #30 - May 18th, 2012 at 8:26pm
 
Backfiring ...  I would class wanting to put the brakes on the economy and shifting in to reverse dumb.


Australian are not going to throw away their wealth and future once they wake up to the Liberals.

And as the last newspoll revealed with the massive 15% collapse in coalition support in a fortnight, word is out.

Liberals are economic illiterates.
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Reply #31 - May 18th, 2012 at 8:36pm
 
This is my country. Cool
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Reply #32 - May 18th, 2012 at 8:37pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 6:27pm:
nairbe wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 5:42pm:
Verge wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 5:35pm:
____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 5:10pm:
JC Denton wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 4:56pm:
greens_win calling other people

economically illiterate




No, Peter Costello, Liberal's previous treasurer is calling Abbott an economic illiterate.

So if Liberal supporters support an economic illiterate leader, this makes them economic illiterate ... or just stupid.


I had a former boss in a company I worked for who could barely add one and one and had the writing skills of a year 7 student.

His business made more in a year than most on this board would make in their working lives.

You dont have to be the best at everything to be a great leader, you just have to know how to get the best out of those around you.

Sure, this may not necessarily apply to Abbott, he might not be getting the best out of those around him, but he doesnt need to be economically literate to be PM if he has excellent people around him.

Swan holds an arts degree and won some treasurers award.

I find it amusing that you are trying to base your argument on a line by Costello, and trying to read more into it.

Its sad.

Like my old boss said, why do I need to worry about the money, thats what I pay you for.


Valid argument for a private business but this is politics. As the leader he must be on top of all policy or he will be destroyed by the media and discarded by the party. He does have to become PM first.


Verge is right. govt is a GROUP job not a one-man for every portfolio thing. Often a leader's job is to do nothing more than lead while the next tier actually does the job. Its not at all amazing that few on here understand that. Few-to-non have ever been near the top of onay commercial tree.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Talk about never been at the pointy end of a political situation at work. Your comment shows clearly you have no idea. Politics is about control, if you have not realised that you are not even in the game yet.
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Reply #33 - May 18th, 2012 at 8:38pm
 
The word is out - the Green and the corporate maggot and the suckhole want to steal my country. Cool
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Reply #34 - May 18th, 2012 at 9:10pm
 
Look Who Is Funding The Australian Liberal Party

http://turnleft2013.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/look-who-is-funding-the-australian-...


This is the party some australians wants in charge of the country !
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Reply #35 - May 18th, 2012 at 9:18pm
 
Its no surprise that the Liberal Party and its coalition partners are taking money earned from the misery of dead and dying cancer sufferers and their grieving families
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Reply #36 - May 19th, 2012 at 7:15am
 
____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:10pm:
Look Who Is Funding The Australian Liberal Party

http://turnleft2013.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/look-who-is-funding-the-australian-...


This is the party some australians wants in charge of the country !

You are so gullible

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Reply #37 - May 19th, 2012 at 7:35am
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 7:15am:
____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:10pm:
Look Who Is Funding The Australian Liberal Party

http://turnleft2013.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/look-who-is-funding-the-australian-...


This is the party some australians wants in charge of the country !

You are so gullible

Cheesy




Incorrect,

I'm not an economic illiterate Abbott fan.


That profits from human suffering.
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Reply #38 - May 19th, 2012 at 7:53am
 
No only Losers, Liars



Kelly O’Dwyer and Senator Abetz started their spin cycle early. Kelly tweeted this with the caption “A picture paints a thousand words”.

Terrible isnt it? On the surface it looks like another small business struggling in the patchwork economy. Another black mark for the government?

Kelly went on to tweet more “detail” to this picture.

@KellyODwyer: Business downsizes from 2 shops to 1. reduces staff from 3 to 0. Owner unhappy with Gillard Gov policy IR, Super and Carbon Tax


meanwhile

http://allpress-antiques.com.au/documents/2031-Shop2

Shop2 is closing down as most stock is sold and now subletting, so having a clearance sale!
“Over the last four years I’ve been wanting to open another shop but not in Malvern as the mix of industrial, retro, glass and unusual items doesn’t quite fit this area“. That’s what he said. Nothing about the carbon tax, IR policy, or Super. More about location, location, location!

Yeah that’s right! The shop is closing because business has been so good, they have run out of stock! Thank you Julia!

And yes Kelly. A picture really does say a thousand words. A thousands words for fake come to mind.
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Reply #39 - May 19th, 2012 at 7:59am
 
____ wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:10pm:
Look Who Is Funding The Australian Liberal Party

http://turnleft2013.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/look-who-is-funding-the-australian-...


This is the party some australians wants in charge of the country !




your m ad woody... no one can stop anyone SMOKING   its LEGAL and guess what.. the govt is the greatest beneficiary...


since when have the greens or the labs.. said they will take NO TAX FROM SMOKERS..

since never thats when..

they use a most miserable excuse to tax the hell out of smokers..

if you claim taking money from the LEGAL suppliers of cigarettes then

it must be even more evil to TAX the bloody things

get over it woody.. taking money from unions doesnt smack of dealing does it?????


and what about the BIGGEST DONATION IN HISTORY>> that 1.6.million the greens got their grubby little hands on..


just about every donation is tainted...

so dont live in a glass house if you want to throw stones.
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Reply #40 - May 19th, 2012 at 8:08am
 
adelcrow wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:18pm:
Its no surprise that the Liberal Party and its coalition partners are taking money earned from the misery of dead and dying cancer sufferers and their grieving families





so you dont think
YOUR GOVT
taking TAX money from the dead and dying is wrong then?????????????


its only  if its the LEGAL MANUFACTURERS of the deadly cigarette



I would bet the
GOVT your GOVT
is the biggest
WINNER
from smokers.. the dead and dying..

of course you dont see it that way do you....

my husband died of lung cancer he was a smoker for the best part of his life.. I hold no one else responsible for that he made his choice.

just like you and I do... no I am not a smoker.now.and I am very much against it..

but  I do not see anyone  holding a gun at someones head and telling them they have to smoke..


anymore than I do with drinking or drugs... its all a matter of choice..

btw how much does the labor party get from the Liquor and hospitality groups???????..


alcohol also kills a lot of people..
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Reply #41 - May 19th, 2012 at 8:19am
 
And look what the Liberal Party finances are up to



Cigarette giant British American Tobacco Australia chops up the prices

TOBACCO company British American Tobacco Australia (BATA) says it has been forced to start selling cheap smokes to try to win back market share from illegal products and to compete in the expanding "cheap" cigarette market.

BATA - whose brands include Dunhill, Winfield and Benson & Hedges - last week released "Just Smokes", which retails for about $11.50 for a pack of 25 cigarettes.

The company said the new brand is priced just above illegal counterfeit and contraband cigarette packs - which sell for about $8 to $10 for a pack of 25.

The average price for a pack of 25 smokes is $16.

Spokesman Scott McIntyre said since the government increased the tobacco excise by 25 per cent in 2010, the "cheap price segment" has grown 63 per cent, as smokers look for lower priced cigarettes.

"The tobacco industry is extremely competitive so if smokers continue to ask retailers for cheaper smokes, that's where the industry will battle for market share which will potentially see prices drop further," Mr McIntyre said.

"(Smokers) have been down trading to cheaper products or illegal cigarettes, so we've been forced to compete.

"If the government keeps giving us ad hoc excise increases, all they'll do is make the problem worse.

"They're trying to reduce smoking rates through excise but instead, it's making people opt for cheaper or illegal options."

Federal AMA president Dr Steve Hambleton said "price is a very strong signal" that drives either more smoking or less.

"When we tell the government to increase the taxes on tobacco, every time the price goes up, consumption goes down," he said.

"That the opposite is occuring is very concerning for the AMA."


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/cigarette-giant-british-american-...



Yet not to the Liberal Party.

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Reply #42 - May 19th, 2012 at 8:26am
 
Libs strike it rich

AUSTRALIAN billionaires have poured twice as much money into the Coalition than the Labor Party in the past six years, an analysis of political donations shows.

Australian Electoral Commission records show, of the more than 30 individuals and family businesses with assets and wealth in the billions of dollars, the 12 largest donors to political parties overwhelmingly favoured the conservative side of politics.

The billionaire's club, which includes Westfield's Frank Lowy, gambling magnate James Packer and "high rise" Harry Triguboff, have given a combined $6 million to the Liberal and National parties.

The donations are usually made via companies they own or run and must be declared.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has been accused of introducing class warfare rhetoric into the national debate this week by referring to "real families", but Labor has still reaped $3 million from billionaires since before the 2007 election. In March, Treasurer Wayne Swan also attacked the country's super-rich, accusing them of seeking to shape Australia's future to satisfy their own interests.

Academics say Ms Gillard's party has been courting the rich for years, despite her recent language.

Mr Lowy's Westfield Group appeared to be the biggest billionaire donor to Labor, giving $1.14 million from mid-2006 to last year.

The largest sum he gave to Labor was $200,000, just before the 2010 election.

Australian National University political theorist Professor Geoffrey Brennan said Labor's class warfare talk was phrased solely to persuade. "Everyone claims to be for the battler," he said.

"The Labor Party is not a party for the poor alone.

"Could the revelation of this fact give the battlers pause for thought? Maybe," he said.

The figures showed that no matter their politics most billionaires donate to both major parties.

"You don't know who is going to win so it pays to spread your portfolio," Professor Brennan said. "It doesn't necessarily change policy but it gives privileged access."

Even larger-than-life Queensland miner Clive Palmer – often cited as a loyal supporter of the conservatives – gave $130,000, via his private company Mineralogy, to the West Australian Labor Party. This figure is, however, overshadowed by the $3 million he gave to the Coalition in the same period.

For all of the donors, their contributions to political parties can be personally regarded as loose change.

Mr Packer's Crown Limited, for example, has donated more than $300,000 to the major parties in recent years (plus a reported $250,000 to Bob Katter's party). These sums are merely a footnote buried deep within Mr Packer's $4 billion-plus net fortune.


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/libs-strike-it-rich-20120512-1yk1l.html
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Reply #43 - May 19th, 2012 at 8:26am
 
"They're trying to reduce smoking rates through excise but instead, it's making people opt for cheaper or illegal options."

Federal AMA president Dr Steve Hambleton said "price is a very strong signal" that drives either more smoking or less.

"When we tell the government to increase the taxes on tobacco, every time the price goes up, consumption goes down," he said.

"That the opposite is occuring is very concerning for the AMA."




hilarious..


I have bought my son everything under the sun to stop him smoking... but he still does..


its his choice..

he was there when his dad died..

its still his choice.
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Reply #44 - May 19th, 2012 at 8:40am
 
cods wrote on May 19th, 2012 at 8:26am:
"They're trying to reduce smoking rates through excise but instead, it's making people opt for cheaper or illegal options."

Federal AMA president Dr Steve Hambleton said "price is a very strong signal" that drives either more smoking or less.

"When we tell the government to increase the taxes on tobacco, every time the price goes up, consumption goes down," he said.

"That the opposite is occuring is very concerning for the AMA."




hilarious..


I have bought my son everything under the sun to stop him smoking... but he still does..


its his choice..

he was there when his dad died..

its still his choice.




So you support forced euthanasia when Libs peddle it, yet oppose voluntary euthanasia because it's Greens policy.

Are all Liberal Party supporters hypocrites?

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