nairbe wrote on May 22
nd, 2012 at 7:13am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21
st, 2012 at 9:26pm:
nairbe wrote on May 21
st, 2012 at 9:00pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21
st, 2012 at 8:07pm:
Quote:The topic is about Godwin's law. You were trying to claim that the Iraq invasion was similar to what the Nazis did. I simply pointed out that that was not the case.
OH i see, so you revert back to the basis of the discussion when the development of the topic moves to a place where you have no answers. I made it very clear on two levels;
1. I do not see our current political leadership as Nazi's i see them as Greedists.
2. The issue at the coure of mentioning the Nazi's is not a reference to death camps and book burnings but rather to societal ignorance to what is happening around them.
There would be lots of countries that are full of people who are ignorant of many things, so your Nazi analogy here is very weak to say the least. And the examples you used of peasants and killings were proven false anyway.
As we have clearly already over reached your intellectual ability to analyse information and made deductions base on probability and known fact we shall leave it there. You have failed to answer questions posed to you and now are denying the innocent that died in Iraq as a result of what was proven to be an out right lie and fabrication by the Uass over Weapons of Mass Deception. I pity people like yourself who are happy to be kicked in the guts, so long as the oppressor is of your choosing.
My intellectual ability is fine thank you very much.
Let us go back over what is the issue here before you create more Red Herrings.
You stated this on page 4:
Quote:I agree that the Hitler comparison is used too often with now no effect. I would also assert that most don't understand what actually happened back then. Hitler was by no means the monster that gas jews and did medical experiments until later in his time, he was at first hailed an economic genius that gave his poverty stricken nation work, food and hope. He restored self respect for the German people after the humiliation of the post WW1 era. At that time the only signs of the monster was his discrimination socially against jews and gays and ethnic Germans in general. This was not seen as a problem around the world as most countries considered the jews a major problem at that time even the US. The warning in the Hitler comparison is to the ignorance of the people who didn't see the monster creep up on them and the lesson that once the monster has control it is to late to turn back.
You distance yourself from direct Hitler comparisons, but maintain that many are ignorant of major problems and this makes the leaders (Liberals I presume for your position) is still linked to "being like Hitler;" that a Hitler like character is creeping up on us here.
Then you reiterate it again on page 6:
Quote:The issue at the coure of mentioning the Nazi's is not a reference to death camps and book burnings but rather to societal ignorance to what is happening around them.
It is a very weak link to claim those who ignorant of things are going to be duped by a Hitler clone. People are ignorant of all sorts of things. Does this make leaders just like Hitler?
You then use two examples of this "creeping" Hitlerism.
That Australians are now peasants, and the Iraq invasion.
The first one is rubbish. Australians have had, and still do, possess a very high standard of living compared to most countries. (Funnily enough, when Hitler came to power he raised the standards of living for most Germans, so your comparison bums out in two respects here).
The second was, I admit, based on lies. But, politicians lie frequently, so your Labor buddies here too would be "creeping Hitlers." Additionally, the end result in Iraq was supposed to be not a fascist military state, but a liberal democracy. Two very different political doctrines.
The problem here is your vain attempt to, no matter what, link your political opponents to Hitler in some way or another. In doing so you over look empirical evidence that goes against your position. Like all ideologues, you are blinded by your emotional attachment to your beliefs. But, by all means, keep pumping out the false analogies, and I'll be there to show you the contradictions and inconsistencies in your positions.
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