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May 8^th, 2012 at 6:14pm

ok ive been watching this hilarious u.s reality t.v show called to catch a predator where this vigilante organisation poses as 13-15-16 year old girls on the internet to lure supposed 'predators' to their house, which has been wired with hidden cameras. when they get there the host shows up out of the closet or something and confronts the 'predator' then the cops cuff them after the short interview with the host and takes them away

obv some of the guys on the program are sickos and creepy (in posession of child pornography, etc) but a lot of them just come across as normal guys, not that much older than the fake age stated by the actor pretending to be the teen girl. another thing to note is just how many guys show up, regardless of the location of the house given by the fake teen. they had one episode set in some little rural town in ohio and heaps of guys showed up to meet the girl.

so, here's the question: is it really that bad to have sex with under age teenage girls? if you have sex with a girl 1 day before her birthday and one day before she reaches the age of consent, are you a sicko? where is it ok to draw the line? lots of teenage girls these days are massive sluts anyway. does it really make you a sicko?

i wouldnt be surprised if it was an extremely common attraction. a lot of guys now have fetishes for asian women, and asian women never look properly mature - they always look very pedomorphic or teen like. i really doubt being attracted to the 'teen' look is particularly abnormal or uncommon. is it wrong to have sex with teenage girls, though? and if so, how wrong? i don't think its that bad tbh.

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Reply #1 - May 8^th, 2012 at 6:27pm

It's a bit fked when a 16 year old guy gets charged cos he had consentual sex with his 15 year old girlfriend. The "creepiness" factor correlates with the age difference - 50 year old men are obviously a bit sick if they're going after 15/16 year olds - they should be looking at 18-25 year olds.
Of course the femos will try to pain that as sick too, as though anyone who finds nubile young women attractive has a mental disorder. Note to femos - nobody, not even dried out grandpas find dried out crusty old lemons attractive. It's not our fault, we were born that way.

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Reply #2 - May 8^th, 2012 at 11:20pm

I think most heterosexual men find teenage girls attractive, though not necessarily sexually attractive. It''s a different matter when a much older guy actually tries to form a relationship with one.

That falls under the category of taking advantage of somebody who is less mature, and is usually a sign that they lack maturity themselves. A reasonable man would find that wrong, and these situations usually end painfully for all concerned.

It's certainly not uncommon for teenagers to be attracted to older people (opposites attract), but IMO it's way out of line to act on that.

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Reply #4 - May 9^th, 2012 at 10:55am

I've seen the program. It stinks of senationalism and entrapment.

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It's a bit fked when a 16 year old guy gets charged cos he had consentual sex with his 15 year old girlfriend

Yes, I agree.

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Of course the femos will try to pain that as sick too, as though anyone who finds nubile young women attractive has a mental disorder.

I don't understand the attraction teenage girls hold for middle aged men and I would suggest that only certain kinds of men experience it. Early 20s is very different.

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Reply #5 - May 9^th, 2012 at 11:11am

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

I don't understand the attraction teenage girls hold for middle aged men and I would suggest that only certain kinds of men experience it. Early 20s is very different.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, all is explained by the concept of hypergamy.

Those "certain kinds" of men who experience it are alpha....or at least a hell of a lot more alpha than any dudes her own age.

Still, I used to tease the 20+ year old lamers who hung around our schoolie parties. Those few years seperating teens from twenties make a huge difference. For whatever reason, when I was 22 or 23, I had a number of 16/17 year olds become infatuated with me. They seemingly ticked all the boxes - stunningly good looking, eager to please...but I never did go there as it just didn't seem right. But to someone who had fewer options, ie lamewads, they'd probably take advantage of the girl and the situation.

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Reply #6 - May 9^th, 2012 at 11:15am

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

I don't understand the attraction teenage girls hold for middle aged men and I would suggest that only certain kinds of men experience it. Early 20s is very different.

Well its the father they have the original crush on isn't it, in most cases.
Doesn't seem to far off if you had a good father to want an older man.

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Reply #7 - May 9^th, 2012 at 11:16am

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

I don't understand the attraction teenage girls hold for middle aged men and I would suggest that only certain kinds of men experience it. Early 20s is very different.

Can you understand the attraction that young men hold for some middle aged women? (Mrs Robinson Syndrome) The perception of beauty doesn't change with age.

It's quite healthy to have attraction without actually acting on it, it the same way that you can appreciate a rare wild orchid in a pristine natural setting without uprooting it or cutting the flowers off.

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Reply #8 - May 9^th, 2012 at 11:20am

muso wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

I don't understand the attraction teenage girls hold for middle aged men and I would suggest that only certain kinds of men experience it. Early 20s is very different.

Can you understand the attraction that young men hold for some middle aged women? (Mrs Robinson Syndrome) The perception of beauty doesn't change with age.

It's quite healthy to have attraction without actually acting on it, it the same way that you can appreciate a rare wild orchid in a pristine natural setting without uprooting it or cutting the flowers off.

Ahem... there is a world of difference between uprooting and rooting...

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Reply #9 - May 9^th, 2012 at 11:35am

Soren wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

muso wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

I don't understand the attraction teenage girls hold for middle aged men and I would suggest that only certain kinds of men experience it. Early 20s is very different.

Can you understand the attraction that young men hold for some middle aged women? (Mrs Robinson Syndrome) The perception of beauty doesn't change with age.

It's quite healthy to have attraction without actually acting on it, it the same way that you can appreciate a rare wild orchid in a pristine natural setting without uprooting it or cutting the flowers off.

Ahem... there is a world of difference between uprooting and rooting...

Hmm I thought you'd appreciate the irony. Deflowering an orchid is different too.

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Reply #10 - May 9^th, 2012 at 11:54am

muso wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

I don't understand the attraction teenage girls hold for middle aged men and I would suggest that only certain kinds of men experience it. Early 20s is very different.

Can you understand the attraction that young men hold for some middle aged women? (Mrs Robinson Syndrome) The perception of beauty doesn't change with age.

Young men are different to teenage boys. Even so, I'm not particulary attracted to younger men - most of my relationships have been with men who are at least 10 years older.

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Yes it does. But beauty is a small part of what makes someone sexually attractive.

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Reply #11 - May 9^th, 2012 at 12:00pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:54am:

Young men are different to teenage boys. Even so, I'm not particulary attracted to younger men - most of my relationships have been with men who are at least 10 years older.

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is the act or practice of seeking a spouse of higher socioeconomic status, or caste status than oneself.[1]

The term is often used more specifically in reference to a perceived tendency among human cultures for females to seek or be encouraged to pursue male suitors that are higher status than themselves, which often manifests itself as being attracted to men who are comparatively older, wealthier or otherwise more privileged than themselves

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Yes it does. But beauty is a small part of what makes someone sexually attractive.

To women, yes. To men, it's everything.

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Reply #12 - May 9^th, 2012 at 12:02pm

muso wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Soren wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

muso wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

I don't understand the attraction teenage girls hold for middle aged men and I would suggest that only certain kinds of men experience it. Early 20s is very different.

Can you understand the attraction that young men hold for some middle aged women? (Mrs Robinson Syndrome) The perception of beauty doesn't change with age.

It's quite healthy to have attraction without actually acting on it, it the same way that you can appreciate a rare wild orchid in a pristine natural setting without uprooting it or cutting the flowers off.

Ahem... there is a world of difference between uprooting and rooting...

Hmm I thought you'd appreciate the irony. Deflowering an orchid is different too.

Actually, I heard the faint whisperings of Dr Sigmund in your analogy.

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Reply #13 - May 9^th, 2012 at 12:12pm

... wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 11:54am:

Young men are different to teenage boys. Even so, I'm not particulary attracted to younger men - most of my relationships have been with men who are at least 10 years older.

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Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "marrying up")
is the act or practice of seeking a spouse of higher socioeconomic status, or caste status than oneself.[1]

The term is often used more specifically in reference to a perceived tendency among human cultures for females to seek or be encouraged to pursue male suitors that are higher status than themselves, which often manifests itself as being attracted to men who are comparatively older, wealthier or otherwise more privileged than themselves

I've considered this, but it's not true for me at least. I don't believe older men hold any kind of higher status than younger women; in fact, I'd argue that any power balance between an older man and a younger woman is in favour of the woman. The same with younger men and older women. It's hardly an attempt to partner 'up', if that's the case.

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To women, yes. To men, it's everything.

To you it's everything.

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Reply #14 - May 9^th, 2012 at 12:18pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

I've considered this, but it's not true for me at least. I don't believe older men hold any kind of higher status than younger women; in fact, I'd argue that any power balance between an older man and a younger woman is in favour of the woman. The same with younger men and older women. It's hardly an attempt to partner 'up', if that's the case.

And I wouldn't argue. I've long maintained that women hold great sexual power over men. It makes all this talk of female O-pression all the more ludicrous.

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To you it's everything.

You did say sexually attrractive. Find me a guy who wants to root ugly girls (as opposed to having a LTR) for their personalities, and I'll buy you a steak dinner.

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